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I don’t want my in laws to hold my baby, AIBU

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QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 10:48

We met DHs family at the pub yesterday for Christmas drinks. I passed our 4month old over to DH while I took DD1 to the toilet, when I came back DD2 was being held by SIL. She had my baby right in front of her face so they weren’t kissing but sharing breath and I could have cried on the spot. I didn’t want to make a scene because no one was unwell and baby was happy but DH knows how I feel about germs. I’ve been extra paranoid lately as everyone is getting the flu and saying it’s the worst they’ve ever had it they’ve been bed bound etc. Then we get baby back and then DH is stood up with baby asking others if they want to hold her. MIL had her next at which point baby started crying, thank god I thought while saying I’ll take her back now thank you and I kept hold of her until we went. But again she was very close to her face. I had her on my knee in conversation with DH while his auntie spoke to baby and then when I looked she had her fingers in my babies mouth!! I quickly moved her away and said oh she’s teething and took her away at which point I said to DH I want to go home now. We’d been there 2 hours anyway and I was on the verge of tears at this point. We got home and I couldn’t sleep my heart was beating fast and it still is this morning. I feel so so guilty about not being able to say in front of everyone I don’t want my baby being passed round or not being able to say what the fuck are you doing putting your dirty hands in my babies mouth. I get DH just wants his family to bond with our kids but up until 6 months ago they have not been arsed with our kids and DD1 is 3. We see them for an hour once every 3 weeks. I fell out with DH as soon as we got home because I was so stressed and anxious and he knows how I feel about playing pass the parcel with the baby and I was stressed about the hands in the mouth thing so I guess I took that out on him as well even though that was my fault for not watching.

He said I do it with my family (play pass the parcel) but I don’t. If I need a wee or need to sort DD1 out I say to my family can you hold her while I do x, y or z. Both of my sister have just had babies and if I want a cuddle we will swap. I never walk into a room and say who wants a hold, I will always try and keep her with me when I can because I’m mum and I want her with me. Also with my family I can and do tell them often. ‘Don’t get too close to her face when you’re holding her’, ‘I can smell smoke on you so no sorry’ ‘Don’t kiss her thanks’ ‘Don’t put your hands in her mouth’. I have a very close relationship with my mum and sisters and they know my boundaries and I’m very comfortable to remind them if they forget. I don’t have that same relationship with my in laws, neither does DH. We have a lot of history of them not respecting boundaries and talking behind our backs because we’ve set boundaries and the last time we met up my FIL was coughing into his hands then holding my babies hand. My baby sucks her thumb so I had to take her to the toilets and wash her tiny hands and got upset after just in case anything passed. But again nothing was said to him, my fault again. I know if I say something it will probably jeopardise DHs relationship with his family and they’ve only just started making half an effort with him again.

I don’t know whether I’m just really hormonal still because my body feels like it’s going through a lot at this stage my skin has gone bad my hair is falling out but I don’t trust his family or feel comfortable when they hold my baby.

Am I being unreasonable for not wanting my in laws to hold my baby?!

If they asked to have a hold I think I’d feel differently but It’s always DH asking them

OP posts:
ToucherGouterPlus · 23/12/2024 11:31

I wouldn't like the fingers in mouth thing either but everything else is more about your own anxiety and it would be good for you to work on that and have some support.

Wife2b · 23/12/2024 11:31

Bloody hell OP, how will you feel in 30 years time as the family in laws if you’re told you can’t hold your precious grandchild. You’d be crushed I assume. Have a word with yourself.

TunnocksOrDeath · 23/12/2024 11:32

Try coming at it from a slightly different perspective: There's some evidence to suggest that exposure to a variety of low-level germs is good for babies' immune systems. So unless someone in the family is actually ill, or recently ill and still contagious, it's probably beneficial for a baby with no known health conditions to come into contact with different family members and be exposed to an array of fairly harmless microbes. Our DC was passed round like the proverbial parcel and is a robust little thing. Please try not to worry, the stress will make you ill all by itself, and no one wants that.

crockofshite · 23/12/2024 11:33

YABVU. You need to get a grip.

tootyflooty · 23/12/2024 11:34

I don't think you are being unreasonable at all. Current medical advise is you don't let people kiss your baby, even grandparents, and most certainly not sticking your fingers in a babies mouth. What is the matter with people. There is a horrible respiratory illness called RSV, babies are extremely susceptible to this. My Grandson is 5 months old, and we have plenty of cuddles, but I have not yet kissed him. My son messaged a family member before she came round and just advised they aren't allowing anyone to kiss him., and yet she still kissed him several times. I really don't understand how how people can't comply with such a simple request. Don't let anyone tell you you are being paranoid, your baby your rules.

QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 11:34

Oh god. I’ve only read the first page of comments and I’m an emotional wreck. I have always known I’ve had anxiety but never diagnosed or been to the doctors about it. I think it’s time I called the GP. :( I feel sick now and worried I’ve messed everything up.

i was never bothered about germs pre covid times. My older DD goes to nursery and always picks things up but I’ve always tried to avoid getting unwell where possible outside of the daily routines. We go to soft plays, events for children, play dates etc but I do always ask anyone we plan to meet up with if they’re all well.

I’m going to ring the Doctors and see if I can get some support

OP posts:
Flopsy145 · 23/12/2024 11:34

Edingril · 23/12/2024 11:26

'MY' baby you don't own a baby they are not a doll

It is HER baby though, the baby is HER child that she gave birth too.

OriginalUsername2 · 23/12/2024 11:34

So unreasonable. Let your baby build an healthy immune system and let your family love the baby to bits like they should.

CreakingAlong · 23/12/2024 11:36

I would rather my baby was ‘sharing breath’ (?) with my sil, than being carried by the smokers in your family really.

The fingers thing is gross though.

Yes, you need some help to relax a bit and get some perspective. Good luck. Anxiety is horrid x

lunar1 · 23/12/2024 11:36

I don't think it's your husband's relationship with his family you need to worry about. I couldn't put up with my husband being this controlling with our children.

876543A · 23/12/2024 11:37

How do you think a child develops an immune system??

Jifmicroliquid · 23/12/2024 11:38

I’m sorry but this level of anxiety is not normal. I understand not wanting people to put their fingers in the baby’s mouth, but people will want to hold her and be close to her.
You are coming across as very paranoid and I think you maybe need to get a little bit of help with this anxiety.

Cyclistmumgrandma · 23/12/2024 11:38

She's 4 months old. You absolutely have not messed anything up. However you really need to get a handle on your anxiety about germs before she starts crawling.

CharityJobConumdrum · 23/12/2024 11:38

You need to get help for your anxiety this post is screaming that. How were you with your other DC did you feel this level of anxiety OP? Are you BF? I don't disagree with you around being mindful of who is holding the baby but you need to weigh that up with the impact in the wider family - it's clear you just don't like your in laws but you know you can't talk to them like you can your own family (bear in mind your own family very likely are aware of how you are atm and are talking about it and maybe feel they can't say anything) - please please get help

Ayechinnyreckon · 23/12/2024 11:39

I also had post natal anxiety. It didn't manifest in the way yours is, but it is horrible.

Edit: just seen you are going to seek help. Well done OP. It's hard to take that initial step.

But yes, yabu and you need to seek help.

AttachmentFTW · 23/12/2024 11:39

QuestioningThings1 · 23/12/2024 11:34

Oh god. I’ve only read the first page of comments and I’m an emotional wreck. I have always known I’ve had anxiety but never diagnosed or been to the doctors about it. I think it’s time I called the GP. :( I feel sick now and worried I’ve messed everything up.

i was never bothered about germs pre covid times. My older DD goes to nursery and always picks things up but I’ve always tried to avoid getting unwell where possible outside of the daily routines. We go to soft plays, events for children, play dates etc but I do always ask anyone we plan to meet up with if they’re all well.

I’m going to ring the Doctors and see if I can get some support

Well done OP, that's a brave step to take. As it's so near Christmas it might take a bit of time to get sorted but you are doing the right thing. Don't let them fob you off, you need some support for this and you are entitled to it x

MrsWhites · 23/12/2024 11:39

You are being unreasonable but I think you can probably see that now.

Anxiety is horrible but you have to see the double standards you are creating - you said it yourself ‘when I want a cuddle’ about your sisters babies, people naturally want to cuddle babies and if you are happy for your family to do so then you have to be the same about your in laws.

Not to mention, baby was far more likely to catch a cold from the pub environment at a busy time of year or from your toddler (nursery) than a well meaning Grandma.

Putting fingers in a babies mouth is rude and stupid though!

Sidebeforeself · 23/12/2024 11:40

Im not surprised they are talking about you behind your back. You need help. Your “ boundaries” are actually quite hurtful. Im usually the first to say “your baby , your rules” but not in this case.

Cakeandcardio · 23/12/2024 11:40

Oh OP I really feel for you. All the people making out like you have health anxiety when you clearly don't. It's not normal to put fingers in a babies mouth and with the adverts on RSV and now the vaccination programme, we now know not to kiss or get too close to baby's face. I assume many of these posters are older and don't understand the risks themselves. People used to think smoking was healthy etc etc.

I would say put your baby in a sling and just keep her there. Say she's tired etc. No one has a right to hold a baby. There are literally no benefits to baby so don't feel guilty. I had good advice from a health professional about this - if someone is too close, take baby away and say you are just going to change / feed her etc. I am sorry your husband's family are so weird. Just don't beat yourself up about it. And you are right that pass the baby is not acceptable.

GivingYourHeadAWobble · 23/12/2024 11:40

tootyflooty · 23/12/2024 11:34

I don't think you are being unreasonable at all. Current medical advise is you don't let people kiss your baby, even grandparents, and most certainly not sticking your fingers in a babies mouth. What is the matter with people. There is a horrible respiratory illness called RSV, babies are extremely susceptible to this. My Grandson is 5 months old, and we have plenty of cuddles, but I have not yet kissed him. My son messaged a family member before she came round and just advised they aren't allowing anyone to kiss him., and yet she still kissed him several times. I really don't understand how how people can't comply with such a simple request. Don't let anyone tell you you are being paranoid, your baby your rules.

Who kissed the OP's baby then??

"Your baby, your rules".

Fine if she was the Virgin Mary but it's both the parent's baby in this case.

Tryingtoconceivenumber2 · 23/12/2024 11:41

It is hard OP. I had DD1 right at the start of COVID but as others have said I think your level of anxiety is something you should speak to your doctor about. That said I would not be happy with someone putting their hands on my babies mouth, absolutely no reason for anyone to do that! X

Sidebeforeself · 23/12/2024 11:41

@tootyflooty Eh? No one can ever kiss a baby?!

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 23/12/2024 11:41

If this is real, you need urgent help. Please sort this for your own and your baby’s sake.

DreadPirateRobots · 23/12/2024 11:41

Current medical advise is you don't let people kiss your baby, even grandparents

...er no it's not. There's no medical advice about kissing babies. It's perfectly normal to kiss, hold, and cuddle babies. The only medical advice is not to kiss a baby if you have an active cold sore, which somehow I'm quite sure OP would have mentioned if relevant.

Bonjovispyjamas · 23/12/2024 11:42

Kids who are wrapped up in cotton wool get ill more often.