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Not to let dh take MIL food shopping on Xmas eve

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Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 12:20

Every year we prompt MIL about what a good idea it would be to book an online delivery. Every year she says ‘oh no - I like to pick my own fresh things the day before!’
Every year she then asks dh to take her. It takes AGES because she wants to look at everything and chat to everyone. It takes Dh away from me and the dc on Xmas eve and I find it irritating.

This year it’s been no different we told her please book an online delivery as we have plans this year we can’t take you shopping. She didn’t.
We offered to add anything she needed to our delivery due on 23rd. Not good enough, she as usual wants to pick her own things.

We have all come down with an awful cold/flu and she’s called dh to try to arrange to
go food shopping on Tuesday !!!! He is saying he feels he has to I’ve told him categorically no. That he can’t as if we aren’t all better I just want to rest and if we are all better I want to do something with the dc. She can get a taxi. AIBU to put my foot down ?

OP posts:
Marymaryxmas · 22/12/2024 16:15

Bah humbug!! If you can’t help your own mother out who can you help ?

applestewing · 22/12/2024 16:15

BIossomtoes · 22/12/2024 16:11

We only have OP’s word that he doesn’t want to go. This is half the story.

Good point

OP we need a picture of your dh, with todays newspaper and signed note confirming he agrees with your version of events please 😂

If your dh knows this is coming every year and he doesn’t want to do it. He needs to tell his mum you have plants but can do x day instead.
I would be annoyed in your shoes op, but this is on your dh to resolve and he needs to grow a pair

BIossomtoes · 22/12/2024 16:17

You don’t know why I’d doubt it? Because all stories have at least two sides, this one has three.

BenditlikeBridget · 22/12/2024 16:17

This is all about her controlling you both and wanting to be top dog. If it was a genuine need for help she’d have taken you up on your numerous other offers. YANBU.

pinkstripeycat · 22/12/2024 16:17

Stillherestillpraying · 22/12/2024 12:23

For a lot of people, especially of her generation, a big part of the Christmas experience is the food shop, choosing things. Clicking on a screen just doesn’t do it. To those youngsters who hate supermarkets they don’t get this, but I am remembering my gran - it was part of her Christmas until nearly 90 to go to Tesco and M&S (although we did it on the 22/23, not Christmas Eve)

What generation? I’m old enough to have grandkids (although I haven’t. My kids are 17 & 19) and my generation (X) certainly don’t all see part of the Christmas experience as shopping for fresh food on Christmas eve. My DM is 77 and it’s not even part of her generation. She had her online shop delivered last Thursday. She no longer drives and know I wouldn’t have time to walk with her while she browses the fruit and veg aisle.

I agree with OP. Her MIL is selfish keeping her son away from his kids on Christmas Eve. The fact he says he feels he ought to sounds like he’s doing it because he feels guilty.

Nothing stops me being with my kids. They’ve always been my priority and no one comes before them.

PandoraSox · 22/12/2024 16:17

CheekyLemonHiker · 22/12/2024 16:14

He’s made her lunch as well?!

Jesus, that is just TOO FAR.

Yabu.

She should LTB. Making lunch for his mum. What a scumbag.

Freshflower · 22/12/2024 16:18

Personally I don't see a problem with this . As annoying as it might be for you , going a few hours with his mum to get fresh food is something they will do anyway it seems, regardless of what you think. Perhaps when he's back you , him and the kids could do something together as a family for Christmas eve?

CheekyLemonHiker · 22/12/2024 16:19

PandoraSox · 22/12/2024 16:17

She should LTB. Making lunch for his mum. What a scumbag.

Absolute wrong’un.

ManchesterLu · 22/12/2024 16:19

I agree it seems ridiculous. BUT, it's not up to you to say he's not allowed to do it. You want him to spend Christmas Eve with his children. But he is someone's child too! There are plenty of hours in the day for everyone.

BonfireToffee · 22/12/2024 16:19

Hwi · 22/12/2024 15:42

Why oh why every different opinion is 'weaponising her experiences against her'? If she did not have a mum with whom she had a bond, she is not likely to understand his bond, is she? And she is not likely to care about it, is she? What was wrong with this statement? Also, I am not old, but I don't like spending time with other people's boisterous children. Boisterous is being the euphemism for badly behaved in most cases, btw.

Are you a qualified trauma therapist, or are you just making horrendously rude and patronising assumptions about the ability of looked-after children (and the adults they become) to understand and empathise with family bonds.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 22/12/2024 16:19

I get that this is intensely irritating but seriously, what makes you think you can tell him 'categorically no' to this? What the hell? It's him who has to take her shopping, not you It's his mother. If he's prepared to help her out even if it's a bit inconvenient then let him get on with it. He doesn't need your permission. If he's that bothered by it then he's capable of telling her no himself.

wizzler · 22/12/2024 16:20

I'm glad you have sorted it. The longer you let this go on the more entrained it becomes . She's only 66 can I ask how she normally does her food shop ?

Adelstrop · 22/12/2024 16:21

If she wants to go in the morning, maybe you could suggest an early start (to avoid the queues). Surely even if it takes hours he will be back by lunchtime, giving you the rest of the day together.

Poodleville · 22/12/2024 16:21

YANBU. The trouble is, I think from what you've described she'd take as much pleasure knowing she is causing disharmony in your home about this as she would from getting her way on Christmas eve. I think you have to leave it in your husband's hands now you've made your feelings clear.
The fact she insisted on this when you had a 6 day old baby at home speaks volumes.

marylou25 · 22/12/2024 16:22

Amazed when I read her age! I thought we must be talking about someone early 80s. I am only a year younger and while I admit I don't do online as I too prefer to pick my own stuff there is no way I would be leaving any of my shopping until Christmas Eve, far too much hassle! There is nothing that is not going to keep for a few days minimum if not a week. I have only a few bits like cream to get tomorrow and that's me done with the shops until New Year hopefully, freezers were a great invention!

That said he's going to have to speed her up, going with her is one thing but putting it all away and cooking her lunch is silly time wasting stuff. Get her to the supermarket for opening time 24th and back home like a bullet!

While I totally get that he can't forget about his mother etc etc she is getting his company Boxing day so not as if totally ignored.

Getupat8amnow · 22/12/2024 16:22

TwinklyMintHelper · 22/12/2024 16:03

You don’t sound a very giving person. He should be able to spend time with his mum when he wants to, unconditionally and without being put in a position where he has to choose between one or the other of you. It’s obviously a really important experience for her, a part of her Christmas tradition. Be kind, and let them get on with it. Life’s too short for these kind of upsets. 🎄

I completely agree with this.

My mum died in 2020 and I would give anything to be able to go Christmas Eve food shopping with her.

OP, your DH one day regret not going with his mum when the time comes that she is no longer here. I know she is 66 but my darling mum wasn’t much older than this when we lost her. I do mean this in the kindest way but you have never had a relationship with your own biological mum so have no experience of the pull of the bond between an adult child and their mum.

I wish you a wonderful Christmas with your family, it is good to here that you are making your own family and that your children have a loving and caring mum.

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/12/2024 16:24

Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 13:55

I’m showing dh this thread and he said that he does have guilt as he knows she loves going with him and yet he also wants to spend more time with the dc while they are still little. He feels pulled between both of us ‘acting in a very similar way for two women who claim to not be like the other’ and that he’s contemplating just taking the dc out himself to the park and turning his phone off as he’s had enough.

Might take some time to reflect now so will be back later perhaps

This is a really difficult and important revelation for him and you. It should be examined, and not shoved away.

For him, he may be playing out childhood issues in an unhealthy way. He needs to look at FOG and boundaries and both his relationship with her and you.

For you, you end to examine how you maintain relationships after what sounds like a traumatic childhood. It may be that your views of family, relationships, children and all that goes with it is warped. It is very difficult to rewrite that. Trauma isn't curable. But it is treatable. You have to be willing to have hard work in your future.

All the best OP.

m00rfarm · 22/12/2024 16:26

Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 12:27

We offered to get anything she wants with our shopping she declined.

Because she wants to go with her son. He was her son before he was your husband.

Mrswhatsit40 · 22/12/2024 16:26

Honestly I’m baffled at the hard time OP is getting 🤣

Me too - I don't think I've ever been so confused by the replies OP is getting - it's like they're reading a different thread (or haven't bothered to properly read the OP's posts).

Also 90% of posters seem to be siding with the OP yet the vote isn't showing that - are people just not voting?

To me it's blindingly obvious the MIL is controlling and extremely selfish. Also very rude to decline Christmas Day with her ds and his dc's because they are "too noisy". Who the hell even makes a comment like that?
I think I'd go NC with my dm or MIL if they were so rude and difficult.

It seems the OP and her dh can't win with this woman - it's her way or the highway, despite how difficult that makes things for everyone else.

To insist her son - who is feeling ill - take her out for hours on Christmas Eve when it's completely unnecessary is just mind boggling to me. I can't believe everyone doesn't agree - some people have very strange ideas or must be extremely selfish themselves.

Or are disgruntled MIL's who just want to stick the boot in bc it's a DIL posting!

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 22/12/2024 16:26

WhateverThen · 22/12/2024 12:28

I get that it’s a bit of a pain but I don’t get why you’re making it such a massive issue. Families require compromise and sometimes doing stuff that isn’t 100% what you want. If he takes her in the morning he’ll be back for lunch and you can do something in the afternoon.

Then why isn't MIL compromising and doing something that isn't 100% what she wants?

She could do the big shop on Monday and have it all fresh. She could have listened to what they said, thought about it and suggested that herself.

Instead she's ploughed on with how she's always done it.

There's a word for that - selfish.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 22/12/2024 16:27

Are you generally a controlling wife?
Why shouldn't he spend time with his mother on Christmas Eve?
You sound entitled and a bit spiteful tbh.
One day you may be in the exact situation MIL is now. Hope you get a kinder DIL. Karma has a habit of coming back to bite you eventually.

GettingStuffed · 22/12/2024 16:28

I voted YANBU purely because you're ill. What time does the supermarket open? Arrange to go at that time, the shops should be emptier and as such the shopping should be quicker.

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Extiainoiapeial · 22/12/2024 16:29

m00rfarm · 22/12/2024 16:26

Because she wants to go with her son. He was her son before he was your husband.

Because she wants to go with her son. He was her son before he was your husband

What does that mean? He has his own children and family now! That doesn't mean he doesn't bother with his Mother, but surely any sane woman would realise he wants to spend time with his own family on Christmas Eve. I would feel so so guilty to drag a son away just for the sake of it.

Bookitonlinenextyear · 22/12/2024 16:29

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 22/12/2024 15:51

@Bookitonlinenextyear she doesnt need help throughout the rest of the year so why does she need his help on christmas eve? she she realise how batty that sounds when she is only feeding one extra person for one day???? is she angry now that your husband has said no to her??

He does a lot for her through the year visits a lot takes her out and does her garden for her and any diy

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Mrswhatsit40 · 22/12/2024 16:30

Poodleville · 22/12/2024 16:21

YANBU. The trouble is, I think from what you've described she'd take as much pleasure knowing she is causing disharmony in your home about this as she would from getting her way on Christmas eve. I think you have to leave it in your husband's hands now you've made your feelings clear.
The fact she insisted on this when you had a 6 day old baby at home speaks volumes.

This - she'll be absolutely loving knowing this is driving a wedge between you and your dh.

I'd honestly just step back and let him suffer the situations he puts himself in from now on. Don't let him blame you because he's not prepared to tell him mother "no" OP.

I think hes deflecting his annoyance with himself at his refusal to stand up to his dm on you by saying you're as bad as she is. So from now on just smile and nod and say "ok dear" and don't take any part in it.

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