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DP not wanting to drive my DD to hospital to say goodbye to her dying dad

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Ifinkyourefreaky · 22/12/2024 09:17

My ds 25 and dd 16 dad died yesterday, he's my exh. His diagnosis was 6 weeks ago and he went downhill rapidly. My DP of 7years had been doing lifts to and from hospital as he's the only one that drives out of us all.
My dd lives with me and ds lived with his dad.
My dp was already in a mood with me yesterday morning and then last minute through in that we needed to get my dd to the hospital ASAP before her DF died as she really wanted to say goodbye to him and he had only a couple of hours left if that.
My dp didn't want to take her said she shouldn't be there to see him die it will scar her for life, It resulted in her crying and shouting 'I need to see my dad to say goodbye' and he said to her he shouldn't have to be dictated to by a little girl.
He relented, complained on the way to hospital that he's just a taxi driver for everyone and he doesn't have to be doing this ect..... He dropped us at the hospital....30min drive and told us to find our own way home.

I'm I being unreasonable to think that if he was annoyed/angry he should have just kept his mouth shut and sucked it up for one more day, as he made the whole thing so much more traumatic for my daughter.

I kept saying to him, this is not the time for you to be venting at us now can you please stop.

I can't speak to him or see him right now, I'm so angry with him. He doesn't live with us BTW.

OP posts:
TheDotMatriX · 22/12/2024 15:12

Omg that is just one of the most horrible things i have ever read on here. Disgraceful.
I would be unable to be civil with anyone who treated my daughter like that in literally the worst time of her life, let alone any kind of relationship. Just awful

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:13

PeskyPotato · 22/12/2024 15:00

When someone shows you who they are, believe them.

and not, thank you for doing this for us. thank you, I’m relieved you are driving us despite your misgivings, Im grateful for this lift, Im heartened that you cared enough to drive us to and from hospital so that I can visit my EX, Im sorry you were upset, thank you for this, see you later mwahh

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:13

TheDotMatriX · 22/12/2024 15:12

Omg that is just one of the most horrible things i have ever read on here. Disgraceful.
I would be unable to be civil with anyone who treated my daughter like that in literally the worst time of her life, let alone any kind of relationship. Just awful

and he is responsible because ?

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:15

Edingril · 22/12/2024 09:19

He is you chauffeur not your partner, so maybe he has a point?

That was not the time!

Though I'd have got a taxi or an uber and sent the bastard to fuck.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:16

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:13

and he is responsible because ?

He is responsible for being an utter bastard to a young woman at the most horrible time of her life.

He's an evil cunt and I don't know why you're defending his terrible behaviour!

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:17

GreekDogRescue · 22/12/2024 14:55

As a driver I sometimes get offered petrol money by those who cannot be bothered with the hassle of learning to drive.

please understand that being offered 40p a mile or whatever in no way compensates for the hassle of giving these grifting types endless lifts.

o wow this made my day haha
cue ‘heartless’ comments ha ha

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:17

Ifinkyourefreaky · 22/12/2024 09:26

This is clearly how he feels, so part of me feels bad for him. But I am taking my driving test next month so hopfully I'll pass and he won't be put upon anymore and I can return the favours when he needs to go places. Just at the moment I'm reliant on him.

I wouldn't be "returning favours" - he would be history after that display!

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:18

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:16

He is responsible for being an utter bastard to a young woman at the most horrible time of her life.

He's an evil cunt and I don't know why you're defending his terrible behaviour!

I never said I was, I was posing a philosophical question without resorting to invective, what’s your excuse?

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:19

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:13

and not, thank you for doing this for us. thank you, I’m relieved you are driving us despite your misgivings, Im grateful for this lift, Im heartened that you cared enough to drive us to and from hospital so that I can visit my EX, Im sorry you were upset, thank you for this, see you later mwahh

Is there something the matter with you?!

JaneFrances · 22/12/2024 15:19

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:13

and not, thank you for doing this for us. thank you, I’m relieved you are driving us despite your misgivings, Im grateful for this lift, Im heartened that you cared enough to drive us to and from hospital so that I can visit my EX, Im sorry you were upset, thank you for this, see you later mwahh

What bloody tosh.

hiddeninplainsite · 22/12/2024 15:20

I think some posters are missing the fact that the OP's DP has watched a relative die, and refused to take her DD ("a little girl") as it would in his opinion "scar her for life."

He acted poorly but it may well have come from a good place.

Until you've watched a loved one die, you don't know how traumatic it is. I cannot tell you how much therapy I've had to try to come to terms with it.

He may well have been trying to protect the OP's DD, deciding that because of her young age, she wouldn't have been able to handle it. He had personal experience of watching someone die, he knew she was struggling with her mental health already and that he was one of the few safe people in her life, so he may well have felt the best person placed to make that decision. I'm not saying he made the right call or that it was his call to make, but I suspect his own grief might have been talking.

It doesn't matter how long ago his loss was, that kind of grief stays with you forever.

When he dropped and ran, he could just have been frustrated at the OP and her DD not trusting his counsel. He could have run away because of the memories that it brought up.

With hindsight, I think the OP should have discussed what was going to happen when the call came. He may well have expressed then that he was against it, giving the OP time to discuss it and come to an agreement, or to know she needed to plan to get a taxi.

Hindsight is always great.

I'm not sure DD will forgive him anytime soon - I wouldn't expect her to, she's dealing with so much without sparing any headspace for her mum's boyfriend - but that's not the main point here.

OP, you need to decide if your DP's motivations were coming from a good place or not. I think you need a very big conversation, and when you have it depends on how much you are grieving right now. DD's pain will be immense - you didn't lose your partner, but you did lose the father of your child, so you may well be hurting too much to have this conversation. Or, you may have come to terms with it already. It's hard to predict.

But at some point, you need to chat calmly and rationally with your DP to understand whether he reacted out of his own trauma with good intentions, or if he was just fed up of helping you and your DD and chose the worst possible moment to make his point.

Life isn't clear cut in black and white. He might not be the monster so many posters are making him out to be. He could just be someone who cares about you and your DD and has experienced a trauma he isn't actually over.

lonelynewname · 22/12/2024 15:25

what a horrible, horrible bastard.
I couldn’t stomach being around someone who’d be so cruel to anyone in their moment of panic and grief, let alone my own child.

No going back for me if I were in your shoes. Disgusting.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:28

Winter2020 · 22/12/2024 09:32

You don't live with him - he is your boyfriend and it sounds like he has spent the last 6 weeks ferrying people to the hospital and back. I imagine yesterday he was told he was doing it regardless of his own ideas for his day.

It's a shame he couldn't bite his tongue for one more day knowing it would be the last but I imagine he reached the end of his tether

Rather than ditching him as many previous posters have suggested I would say that you as a family have been through an extraordinary amount of stress the last 6 weeks and this has strained your relationship - but it is over now.

I think blaming your boyfriend for adding to your daughters stress is probably just deflecting your and her anger at her dad dying onto your boyfriend. She was going to visit her dying dad - I can't imagine she gave much of a shit if the driver was grumbling. It was never his responsibility to facilitate that visit.

Your boyfriend is a person too in his own right not an employee so if you want to continue to see him I would suggest you phone him - tell him that the last couple of months have been stressful buy it's now over and you are sorry for the strain it has put on your relationship. I think he did a lot that he didn't have to do - for you.

You might find that your boyfriend wants to end the relationship after the last few days anyway.

How is it "over"? The OP's son and daughter will be grieving. The physical side of visiting the hospital is "over" but the grief will go on for a long time.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:31

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:18

I never said I was, I was posing a philosophical question without resorting to invective, what’s your excuse?

I don't need an "excuse" for anything. He's a hateful bastard treating a 16 year old whose father is dying like that. There's zero "excuse" for him either.

"Philosophical" my arse.

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:33

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 10:53

of all the drip feeds completely shifting the original narrative, this one is up there with the best, causing division and vile name calling of the perceived villain, making no allowance for your own haplessness, daughter’s medical issues, son’s inability to drive
You need to pass your test OP - the goodwill of your Fiance has been stetched to its limits especially if he reads this, with enough identifying information, next stop DM

where was the daughter at this time ?

BruFord · 22/12/2024 15:36

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting Yes, her DD will be grieving for a long time. As they don’t live together, the OP can just end the seven-year relationship and they won’t need to see him again.

I think that’s what you’re advising her to do, I’m unsure if this behavior is out of character for him, but I definitely think that she needs to evaluate the relationship.

Flatulence · 22/12/2024 15:41

Even if he felt pissed off at having to drive everyone everywhere (we can't help how we feel) it was NOT the time or the place to kick off about it. How utterly heartless and cruel.

You and your son should definitely learn to drive, unless there's a compelling reason why you can't (e.g. medical conditions) and so should your daughter when she's old enough. Driving is a life skill and means you become less reliant on twats like your partner.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:42

VacuumPacked · 22/12/2024 15:03

as is your uncomprehending input

I rather think you are the one displaying a lack of comprehension.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 22/12/2024 15:44

BruFord · 22/12/2024 15:36

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting Yes, her DD will be grieving for a long time. As they don’t live together, the OP can just end the seven-year relationship and they won’t need to see him again.

I think that’s what you’re advising her to do, I’m unsure if this behavior is out of character for him, but I definitely think that she needs to evaluate the relationship.

Edited

For me it would be unforgiveable that he treated a traumatised, grieving child that way.

Unless it's 100% out of character. I couldn't look at him again after that.

AnyoneSomeone · 22/12/2024 15:45

Flatulence · 22/12/2024 15:41

Even if he felt pissed off at having to drive everyone everywhere (we can't help how we feel) it was NOT the time or the place to kick off about it. How utterly heartless and cruel.

You and your son should definitely learn to drive, unless there's a compelling reason why you can't (e.g. medical conditions) and so should your daughter when she's old enough. Driving is a life skill and means you become less reliant on twats like your partner.

She is learning to drive. At least read the OPs posts if not the rest of the thread.

MumWifeOther · 22/12/2024 15:49

This would be unforgivable in my eyes. As soon as he started complaining, I would have told him to go f himself and got into a cab with my daughter so she wouldn’t have had to endure such a selfish prck.

flyingfar · 22/12/2024 15:51

ChaosHol1 · 22/12/2024 09:34

All the treating him like a chauffeur comments, ffs. He's a member of their family supposedly. Family are supposed to support each other in whichever means is necessary when they are going through the hardest points of their life. He also doesn't get to determine and decide if it will affect a 16 year old to see their dad die. That was her decision solely. Who the hell would sit home and let their 16 year old stepdaughter who is upset and about to lose her dad, take a taxi to the hospital.

Yes, I agree. The whole point of having a partner is being able to rely on them and the timing of his comments was cruel. He could have just been kind instead.

TrollTheAncientYuletideCarol · 22/12/2024 15:52

He reacted very badly indeed, and it would truly make me question whether I could continue.

That said, asking him for 14 lifts in 6 weeks when you can't drive, no-one else can drive and your dd is so anxious she can't go in a taxi is a lot. That's twice a week for several hours plus a couple of other times, as presumably, he has to hang around and wait or come back later.

It's a big ask and not ideal probably to rely on him. I do also think the poster who said you may have run in saying 'ex is dying, dd needs to see him' may have then triggered him thinking this was the wrong thing to do, and it all then escalated.

I would hope anyone I was with would step up in this situation, but I also think it was a bit unfair on him to put him in this situation. You could go with her in the Uber or on the bus as a starting point in the future to get her used to that again, I know it's very hard when they have anxiety but the only way to deal with that is to get medical help to get the anxiety down (meds, therapy, CBT) and then start going out again otherwise that will worsen.

GivingitToGod · 22/12/2024 15:53

CharlotteUnaNatalieThompson · 22/12/2024 09:21

Unless there is some serious mitigating circumstances (and I can't think what they might be) then that was unimaginably cruel of him. I couldn't get past that treatment of my DD and would end the relationship.

He might have felt fed up of being treated like a taxi especially if it's been pretty constant for the last 6 weeks but as you say that was not the time to make the point

THIS

rayofsunshine86 · 22/12/2024 15:55

I'm afraid that would be the end of the relationship for me, especially as you don't have any ties together.