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Our cousins took our inheritance and gave it to their mother, I feel I can't carry on acting as if nothing has happened

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NeshButUpNorth · 16/12/2024 11:17

My deceased mother had brothers and a sister. One deceased brother and the surviving sister (i.e. our aunt) had kids. We used to go on shared holidays twice a year with our aunt's kids, we've always got on well.

Our bachelor uncle died 2 years ago, with no will. When we were chatting a few months later, my aunt's eldest told me that they were going to try to "so what my uncle would have wanted". I assumed my cousin would contact me and my sister in the future to discuss this, since they would need us to sign off anything that would change the legally defined distribution (which is 1/6 each to me and my sister), since it would be a criminal offence to do otherwise, which my cousin must know, since their spouse is a director of a legal company.

A few months after my uncle died, my sister was diagnosed with incurable cancer, with months, possibly a year or two to live. She had to go on sick leave for the chemo and radiation treatment, etc. After 6 months, her sick pay dropped to 50%, and after a year was due to end. She asked me what was happening with our uncle's estate, this being around 18 months after he died, with the house sold 6 months previously. I had received no updates, so she sent a facebook message to our cousin who was dealing with the estate, asking for an update and she described her health/finance situation. To our surprise, our cousin told us that they had given all the money to my aunt, rather than the 1/3 share the law defined.

I was baffled why they'd do this without getting legal documents with our consent first. Before I had a chance to form any further opinion, my cousins blocked my sister on messenger and unfriended her on Facebook. I assume that they think that she has done something so awful that she should be shunned and disowned.

Since then, my sister has had no birthday cards from them or my aunt, and no Christmas cards so far, whereas they've carried on liking my family updates on facebook, and have sent me cheery Christmas cards which arrived a couple of days ago. My sister is dwelling on the idea that they've lied on the probate forms, pretending that our mother never existed.

I just feel queasy and sick about it, how can I carry on as normal with them, or visit them at Christmas, even though my sister has told me she doesn't want this to oblige me to distance myself.
I want to explain to them how upsetting this has been, I've lost lots of sleep over this over the past few months, but now Christmas is coming, I feel I should say something, surely if I don't it will look like tacit agreement that I agree with their actions.

I was thinking of writing to my cousin, telling them how unhappy and sad this makes me feel. I feel that they have been so unfair in acting as if my sister has done something wrong, whereas they did not tell us what they planned (hence us having to ask for an update), whereas they have in fact committed a criminal offence (which I might not highlight). I had been wishfully imagining that my aunt might be unaware of all this, but then when I woke up too early again today fretting about this, I realised that if she hasn't sent my sister a Christmas card, then she must know all about it.

Initially I had been thinking for months to send a letter explaining how I feel to my cousin. Then after realising that my aunt must know about this, I've been trying to write a letter to send to my aunt this morning, to send with a Christmas card, since she asked how we are in the card she sent to me.
Surely that's the best option. Then I felt ill writing it, then decided to ask for advice here.

I definitely can't just carry on as normal, and I don't think I can say nothing.

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Honeycrisp · 16/12/2024 11:45

Obviously you can't carry on as normal. That relationship has gone. The question is only whether you intend to legally challenge them or not.

Maddy70 · 16/12/2024 11:45

Bingobanging · 16/12/2024 11:43

Why do people make statements like this with such authority? It’s so weird.

Maybe its different in different countries. Where is the op?

Our cousins took our inheritance and gave it to their mother, I feel I can't carry on acting as if nothing has happened
GivingitToGod · 16/12/2024 11:46

Lawoclcodoow · 16/12/2024 11:21

Go and see a solicitor don’t bother writing to them if there was something in writing for it to be shared then they’ve acted illegally.

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And this situation emphasizes the toxicity that money can bring

Ohnonotmeagain · 16/12/2024 11:46

I’d report it to action fraud. You have messages saying what they’ve done, and what they’ve done is executor fraud. Report it under “abuse of position of trust” with you and your sister as victims.

action fraud have an online chat which is very good, or try your local police webchat.

these things it’s often a bit muddy as to what the crime is as district police don’t deal with it often, so probably worth reporting it to both.

i know it feels horrible reporting family to police, but they don’t give a shit about you so why should you care if their own actions are a crime.

lots of have been through this or are going through this. I hesitated for ages about the police report, but I am glad I did it now. The more of us report this, the more seriously it will be taken.

i am also thinking of writing to my MP to outline the absolute ability to steal probate gives executors, often with little comeback.

also go on line and download a copy of the letters of administration, it’s a couple of pounds.

MugPlate · 16/12/2024 11:46

You’re trying to spare the feelings of people who chose to steal from a terminal cancer sufferer?

I spent over 5 years sorting out an intestate family estate and distributed it to people I’ve never even met.

Sorry you’re related to utter shitbags.

BeAzureAnt · 16/12/2024 11:46

My brother tried to take my inheritance from my dad away from me, and sadly I had to see a lawyer. I got my share, and it did lead to estrangement, but honestly, I couldn't maintain a relationship with him after that. OP, I'd consider legal action if you have seen the solicitor.

FlippityFloppityFlump · 16/12/2024 11:46

The op says English law. You have linked to an American site

Witsend101 · 16/12/2024 11:47

This is American, I think the OP is in the UK

sigmaboy · 16/12/2024 11:49

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Vaxtable · 16/12/2024 11:49

Sod writing to your aunt and cousin, you go straight to a solicitor and instruct them to get your money

Yeahno · 16/12/2024 11:53

Put the money aside, the way they treated your sister after what she told them is awful. I would have no mercy.

ShanghaiDiva · 16/12/2024 11:53

@Ohnonotmeagain
i am in the process of finalising my dm’s estate and you are absolutely correct there is a huge opportunity for executor fraud. No one checks that I have distributed the money as per the will.

twobluehorses · 16/12/2024 11:54

twobluehorses · 16/12/2024 11:53

This is absolutely incorrect. See the correct position for England below:

https://www.gov.uk/inherits-someone-dies-without-will/y/england-and-wales/no/no/no/yes

Edited

Sorry I have quoted the wrong post. The link posted above by @Maddy70 is incorrect for England

Dealingwithatrexrightnow · 16/12/2024 11:54

FumingTRex · 16/12/2024 11:21

I would be writing to a solicitor personally. They obviously dont care about how you or your sister feel I am sorry to say . I wouldnt waste time on the card.

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Vaxtable · 16/12/2024 11:55

@Maddy70

no idea where you got your print from. This is from the government site for England

Intestacy - who inherits if someone dies without a will?:Information based on your answers
The estate is shared equally between the brothers or sisters (not including any step-brothers, step-sisters, half-brothers or half-sisters).
If a brother or sister died before the deceased, their children (nieces and nephews of the deceased) will inherit in their place.
If any of these nieces or nephews died before the deceased, their children will inherit in their place and they are entitled to apply for probate.
If any brothers, sisters or their descendants died after the deceased, their share will become part of their own estate

Op is correct they are entitled to part of the estate

NeshButUpNorth · 16/12/2024 11:55

ARichtGoodDram · 16/12/2024 11:38

Your relationship with them is dead. They are people who care so little for your and your sister they have stolen from her at an awful time of her life.

They don’t care about you so why are you trying to protect them?

fair point, I have wondered if there is any chance of future reconciliation

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Maurepas · 16/12/2024 11:55

I voted YABU because you have NOT dealt with this matter at all in timely manner by taking legal action on behalf of sister. Outrageous.

twobluehorses · 16/12/2024 11:56

Maurepas · 16/12/2024 11:55

I voted YABU because you have NOT dealt with this matter at all in timely manner by taking legal action on behalf of sister. Outrageous.

OP is not legally obliged to take action on behalf of her sister. The outrageous act is that of the cousins not the OP

Funandnames · 16/12/2024 11:56

The thing that bothers me the most here is that the cousins have said the ‘right thing’ to do is for their own mother to have the entirety of it? Which basically means it goes to them!

So, because OP lost their own mother, they get disinherited versus her cousins who get the whole inheritance simply for ‘doing what’s right’ 🙄 Funny how the terminally ill niece wasn’t part of the ‘what’s right’ equation…

ARichtGoodDram · 16/12/2024 11:56

In the Uk a siblings right to inherit doesn’t die with them.

If there are four surviving siblings they inherit 25% each. If there are three of four
siblings surviving they still inherit 25% each with the deceased siblings 25% being split equally between their children.

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 16/12/2024 11:57

There could be no reconciliation until you’ve sorted the legal matter out. It’s very hard for you. It couldn’t be worse, but it will be better once you have a good solicitor on your side.

NeshButUpNorth · 16/12/2024 11:57

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 16/12/2024 11:40

OP, they've broken the law and whether you would have agreed to the estate being distributed differently if you'd been asked, is not the point.
This is a serious matter and I would certainly sue. You can't pretend it hasn't happened and they are being quite shameless about it by the sound of it.
Sad how large sums of money bring out the worst in some people.

I know, I've heard many awful stories about this sort of thing

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