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If your adult child was going through a difficult time financially, would you help them out?

379 replies

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 08:21

So if your son or daughter expressed to you that times were difficult financially atm due to something such as job loss or a big expense that they’ve suddenly had to pay for in an emergency, would you give them money to help, if you were able to? Or would you see it as their own struggle to overcome and deal with themselves now that they are an adult?

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Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 10:16

Porcuporpoise · 16/12/2024 10:11

It's totally reasonable to have a pet and not be prepared to bankrupt yourself to pay vets fees. You owe them suitable care and a painless death, not 9k worth of complex surgeries, chemotherapy, or a lingering old age.

If you were happy to treat your cat fine (except that you expect your dad to foot the bill) but if you had decided to pts rather than put him through expensive and extended treatment then that would also have been a valid decision.

It’s not bankrupting myself though is it….. I had to find 1k not 15k. I did it, I managed it. I would’ve appreciated the help, but none was given so I figured it out for myself and it was fine. It was tight for a while because we had to build savings back up and pay off the debt but it was 1k of debt not thousands.

Where did I say I expected my dad to foot the bill?? Are you reading my posts properly or are you trying to just find something to jump at? I never expected him to foot a 9k bill. Let’s make that crystal clear. Insurance paid 6, I paid 2.. I had to put the further 1 on a credit card. I would’ve liked to have been offered help so that I didn’t go into debt. However, I wasn’t so it’s fine, I just did it myself. No expectations off my father whatsoever. I just wondered if other parents would do the same. It’s fine if no one would, and im the one being unreasonable. I can accept that. However, don’t twist it and make out like I wanted my dad to pay 9k. You’ve made that bit up yourself

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MaggieBsBoat · 16/12/2024 10:16

Always. Though sometimes it is hard.

Porcuporpoise · 16/12/2024 10:17

@Blossomtoes and what do you think pet owners less financially blessed than yourselves should do? Is it reasonable for them to make care decisions for their pets partially on financial grounds or do they owe it to their pets to try everything their vet suggests?

Tel12 · 16/12/2024 10:17

I'd consider repaying the £200 to your dad. He's not going to forget it. He sounds quite mean and you don't need to be beholden. Have you considered Beneden? You have to be a member for 6 months but they will cover existing conditions after that. Cheaper than private insurance.

Oldandcobwebby · 16/12/2024 10:18

I would assist straight away if I was able to, just as my parents did for me.

Imbusytodaysorry · 16/12/2024 10:18

TheGrinchIsComingToTown · 16/12/2024 10:09

@Imbusytodaysorry I've read the updates.

£9k plus interest is a huge amount of money to spend. If I had done that, my parents would refuse me financial assistance.

lol you still don’t get it .

Op did NOT spend £9k
she spent 3k
2k from savings
only 1k with interest as she did it all herself !

I say she is responsible. .
She pays her bills she saves and she has insurance for her animal

Ffs what more do people want . Blood ???!

TheGrinchIsComingToTown · 16/12/2024 10:19

@Imbusytodaysorry she's been under insured twice in recent years. That's not responsible.

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 10:19

TheGrinchIsComingToTown · 16/12/2024 10:06

Having seen the update. No.

You were happy to put £9k into credit cards for a cat (and no doubt paid out much more in interest), but can't save for a surgery?

I NEVER PUT 9K ONTO CREDIT CARDS!!!! Come on people. Some reading comprehension. Please make sure you read my comments slowly and maybe two or three times before commenting

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Flavabobble · 16/12/2024 10:20

If they expected me to sub them fifty quid for fags and booze , no.
If they were struggling financially and their boiler was beyond repair I'd insist on giving them couple of grand for a new one.

Imbusytodaysorry · 16/12/2024 10:20

TheGrinchIsComingToTown · 16/12/2024 10:19

@Imbusytodaysorry she's been under insured twice in recent years. That's not responsible.

I am not spending anymore time on this pointless conversation . The lack of comprehension is unbearable.

Pluvia · 16/12/2024 10:21

I think I would be happy to invest in your health which will bring you long-term gains, but putting money into the cat or a car would feel like money down the drain and I would be concerned that you regarded me as someone who would bail you out every time something went wrong. The cat and the car are your lifestyle choices: and surely the insurance would cover a replacement car? You're an adult and you have a partner. I would expect you to take responsibility for both. I'm perhaps biased: I have acquaintances who go on cruises and spend thousands on clothes and shoes and bags, but launch crowdfunders when their dog racks up a vet bill.

Porcuporpoise · 16/12/2024 10:21

@Pekitothebunny sorry I obviously was not being clear, I know you weren't expecting your dad to pay 9k of vets bills.

TheGrinchIsComingToTown · 16/12/2024 10:22

@Imbusytodaysorry but I'm not misunderstanding, am I?

She had pet insurance that didn't pay out enough.

She had car insurance that didn't pay for her car being stolen.

SWLondonLurker · 16/12/2024 10:22

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 10:11

I suspect his version would be that i’m an adult with a job and will need to deal with difficult life circumstances. Like people have said, it might be that he doesn’t want to help based on the reasons for the help, like maybe he doesn’t agree with spending so much money of a cat for example. Although when I was 17, my mum bought a dog. It was a very bad idea because she had no money! I took it upon myself to make sure the dog got their vaccinations etc but couldn’t afford pet insurance. During a conversation with my dad he told me I should do anything to pay for insurance and I should stop paying for my phone etc in order to afford it because it’s important in case anything happens. Since then I have always had insurance. Before his last dog died of cancer, he spent thousandssss on treatment for him, in order to help him live a few more years. So I don’t really see that as being the reason, because he has done the same for his pets. I think it’s more to do with the fact that he thinks I should save for emergencies and be able to deal with anything life throws at me by myself (which I do try to do. I always have savings, it just seems that I’ve been unlucky with needing to spend them when I don’t have a lot built up yet)

Edited

Not that I disagree with anything you’re saying, but just to point something out. All of your examples of him spending large amounts of money on pets involve dogs. That doesn’t mean he thinks it’s reasonable to spend £9K on a cat.

I’d do/spend anything for my dog and the idea of spending £9K on a cat is mind blowing to me. Which is why I’d never get a cat. I certainly wouldn’t loan (or give) anyone thousands of pounds to spend on a cat.

That aside, his attitude towards your endo is shocking. Give him back his £200 and tell him why.

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 16/12/2024 10:22

Yes I would and actually we are now in a better financial position than in-laws so would (and have) helped them when needed as well.
What’s the point of family otherwise?

ManchesterLu · 16/12/2024 10:23

It depends on the circumstance. If it's something out of their control yes I would help. If they'd been silly then yes, I would help. But if it was repeated - no.

thepariscrimefiles · 16/12/2024 10:23

BountifulPantry · 16/12/2024 10:07

Kindly OP, I would not help in your dads place.

To you your cat is a beloved family member but to your dad it is just a cat.

Objectively spending £9k on a can when you only have £2k in savings is not prudent.

£6k of the vet's bill was paid by insurance.

If you were happy to see your daughter in excruciating pain every month due to a treatable illness and refused to help even though you had the funds to do so, having been an absent parent who left when your child was a baby, I would think you were a terrible person and an even worse parent. I presume that the 'kindly' is sarcastic as it's inclusion doesn't make any part of your comment 'kind'.

taxguru · 16/12/2024 10:23

Yes, we would, and we have.

But we wouldn't if he was making bad choices that he expected us to finance!

And we won't be when he starts earning more than us!

We firmly believe in the "hand up, not a hand out", philosophy.

Mmhmmn · 16/12/2024 10:23

I’d help and I believe most would.

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 10:25

BountifulPantry · 16/12/2024 10:07

Kindly OP, I would not help in your dads place.

To you your cat is a beloved family member but to your dad it is just a cat.

Objectively spending £9k on a can when you only have £2k in savings is not prudent.

I’ll say it one more time. I didn’t spend 9k on a cat. I spent 3k. 2 of which I already had. I was out of pocked by 1k.. whacked it on an interest free credit card and paid it back.

it’s fine if you wouldn’t help in that situation. That’s why I’ve made the post, for other inputs. So that’s totally valid. But I just would like people to understand what I am saying. I have never paid 9k for my cat. He had insurance and I just had to pay the difference. If the difference was 5k or more that I simply didn’t have, then my outcome may have been different. However, I only needed to find 1k, and while it made things tight for a while, we knew we could manage it by being frugal and we paid off the 1k in 6 months and have had no further issues with the cat

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Lentilweaver · 16/12/2024 10:25

I would absolutely pay for my DD to have surgery for endo. I know its v painful.

I think the cat bills are rather too much. Though I love cats.

Mumlaplomb · 16/12/2024 10:25

It would depend. I have a relative who despite earning a good salary cannot manage money and has no savings and is maxed out overdrawn. Every other month there is a “crisis” because there isn’t a safety net and even relatively predictable costs such as minor car repairs during an MOT require handouts from their parents who cannot really afford it. In their case it would be a hard no.

If it was a one off from an otherwise reliable relative who was generally good with money and budgeting then it would be a yes.

Caroparo52 · 16/12/2024 10:26

Give money 100%

Imbusytodaysorry · 16/12/2024 10:26

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 10:16

It’s not bankrupting myself though is it….. I had to find 1k not 15k. I did it, I managed it. I would’ve appreciated the help, but none was given so I figured it out for myself and it was fine. It was tight for a while because we had to build savings back up and pay off the debt but it was 1k of debt not thousands.

Where did I say I expected my dad to foot the bill?? Are you reading my posts properly or are you trying to just find something to jump at? I never expected him to foot a 9k bill. Let’s make that crystal clear. Insurance paid 6, I paid 2.. I had to put the further 1 on a credit card. I would’ve liked to have been offered help so that I didn’t go into debt. However, I wasn’t so it’s fine, I just did it myself. No expectations off my father whatsoever. I just wondered if other parents would do the same. It’s fine if no one would, and im the one being unreasonable. I can accept that. However, don’t twist it and make out like I wanted my dad to pay 9k. You’ve made that bit up yourself

Op many would. Please don’t pick up on the posts from the selfish pigs who wouldn’t give anyone 10p. Who judge and think better than everyone else.

It’s normal to what to help your kids.
Your dad isn’t normal one .

He is selfish.
You are doing a great job .

Look into private health care for yourself .
Sometimes these private places do payment plans . Is that an option for you.

Id say soemthing to my dad though while returning the £200
Ask him why he would rathe dtou suffered in pain then help you.

TheGrinchIsComingToTown · 16/12/2024 10:26

@Pekitothebunny can you not be frugal now and start saving?