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If your adult child was going through a difficult time financially, would you help them out?

379 replies

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 08:21

So if your son or daughter expressed to you that times were difficult financially atm due to something such as job loss or a big expense that they’ve suddenly had to pay for in an emergency, would you give them money to help, if you were able to? Or would you see it as their own struggle to overcome and deal with themselves now that they are an adult?

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Plastictrees · 16/12/2024 09:31

Yup I would. My parents were never in the position to be able to help me and it’s always been important to me to be financially secure enough to be able to help my DC if they needed it. It had a big impact on me never having a safety net in my late teens/early 20s, knowing I had to rely on only myself.

Obviously a pattern of asking for money is a very different thing.

Thedogstolemyheatedblanket · 16/12/2024 09:32

Hard to say on that amount of information

Depends whether the child had generally been sensible/hardworking. Depends why the job loss/expense. And depends how easily I could help. Especially if I was retired or in ill health

Pinkpantherstrikes · 16/12/2024 09:33

I would help my child as long as it was for genuine reasons.

In your situation I think I would rather take a loan out, or downsize if that was possible, than ask him. He clearly doesn’t want to help you.
Have you got a standing order set up to pay him back? As long as he’s getting his money back regularly he shouldn’t be hassling you .

Imbusytodaysorry · 16/12/2024 09:35

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 09:29

He didn’t know what it was, I had to explain it to him. I have explained how much it affects me etc. I do think maybe he’s a bit cold because I said I was worried about it affecting my fertility, especially as I am already 31 and don’t have any children (I didn’t say this to manipulate him, this was during an earlier conversation when I was first diagnosed). In response to this he told me that not having kids isn’t the worst thing and I can do lots of other things with my life, have new experiences, go on holidays, but myself nice things etc. obviously, this is true and he may just have been saying it to make me feel better. But I do feel like it tells me where his priorities in life lie, and that he would rather spend his money on these things rather than a child. My parents split up when I was a baby because my mum said her life changed and his didn’t. He left her at home with me while he went out living the same lifestyle as always. I just think he would prefer to spend his money on things for him and his wife than have any of it go on me. I thought I had made peace with this, but it still stings knowing that he knows I’m in pain and has the means to help me but won’t

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Do you have a payment plan with him .
How much of the consultation fee have you paid back ! Maybe if he seen that paid back he would lend the bigger money ?
Also I don’t want to be that person but im going to say it .
You are out drinking with him when you owe him money . I don’t think he will Lend the money to you seeing that

He does come across pretty selfish.

Maybe if he seen you on pain or thought it was life threatening he would help .
I just have the feeling he sees you out socialising so doesn’t see it effecting your life.

Stretchanoctave · 16/12/2024 09:35

9K on treatment for a cat is insane. What did they do - clone it or something. It is outrageous.

Cyclebabble · 16/12/2024 09:36

It depends. I have supported my kids through college and provided good support for a deposit. Whilst no one can see into the future and there are circumstances such as illness where I would support, I am generally clear that day to day expenditure needs to come from my kids. I see many parents who for no good reason are still paying for holidays, dentistry and even cosmetic surgery at their kids request. I do not think this does children any favours at all. I would encourage self reliance and then when I pop my clogs there is more to leave to my children and grandchildren.

Thedogstolemyheatedblanket · 16/12/2024 09:37

RTT now.

We didn't get a pet until we had bought a house and had a decent savings cushion for precisely this reason. I have sympathy with your dad on that one.

WaryPinkPoster · 16/12/2024 09:38

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BraveBlueDuck · 16/12/2024 09:38

Depending on the situation, I'd help where I could.

Got themselves into debt via overspending or gambling, I wouldn't help.

Job loss, emergency bill...etc, I'd help

Porcuporpoise · 16/12/2024 09:39

JustMyView13 · 16/12/2024 09:17

Yes.
If you can help then why wouldn’t you. Unless of course they’re taking the biscuit. But I find it odd that people have children then let them struggle on whilst living a comfortable lifestyle.

Depends on whether you think your children should ever have to struggle or not and how much I suppose. I think it's normal for adults to have periods of financial struggle in their lives and it's part of what teaches you to appreciate what you've got and manage your finances well.

Some people spend their children's entire childhoods trying to cushion them from ever experiencing delayed gratification or responsibility for their choices. I guess those children do expect that sort of support to continue into adulthood. It is really noticeable on Mumsnet quite how strongly the community feels that children are perpetually entitled to their parents time and money and quite how hostile they are to the idea that support might need to be reciprocal at some point.

Fwiw I would definitely support my adult children with health needs but wouldn't dream of covering or contributing to their vets bills.

MooFroo · 16/12/2024 09:40

Yes definitely help if you can afford to do so and it’s genuine reason.

if I couldn’t afford it financially, I’d try to help in other ways - with kids, food, and anything practical lieo helping with job applications etc

Your are always your kids and I’d hope to be able to always love and support mine in different ways depending on what they need from us as their parents

Definitelynotme2022 · 16/12/2024 09:41

My parent's helped me, and I help my adult dc if they need it.

To be honest, ds2 (33) is starting to take the piss and is in danger of not getting much more help. Only because I'm now a single mum, mortgage etc and I just can't afford to giving him £100 a month!

Ja428 · 16/12/2024 09:42

He is beyond evil. What kind of parent would buy designer shit and go on many holidays when their child was in pain and suffering and the money could be spent on an operation to solve that? Only an evil person would do that. I have grown up kids btw.

I would have another conversation with him. Calmly - not when you are feeling broken.

Tell him that you would like him to gift you the money for the consultation and the surgery. Because you are in horrendous pain and it’s causing physical and mental suffering. Tell him also that you understand that being childfree might have positives, but that your choice would be to have a child.

You are his only child. So there’s no suggestion of having to give more to be fair to others.

If he chooses to keep spending money on himself, buying lots of frivolous stuff, instead of getting your surgery, you will know for sure that he doesn’t really love you. You can emotionally detach and treat him as you would treat a receptionist. Politely, just arrangements only.

Wigtopia · 16/12/2024 09:42

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 09:01

Thank you everyone for answering. I didn’t give my specific example just because I thought it would sway the votes, and I wanted to first know what peoples opinions are about this in general.

For my specific situation (in case anyone is interested) I am the daughter in this situation. I am 31 and my parents are separated. My mum does not have a lot of money so I would never ask her for anything. My dad is quite well off, has lots of disposable income. I’m his only child, he lives mortgage free and goes on lots of holidays a year, he bought a caravan outright, buys lots of designer things etc (nothing wrong with this in the slightest, I am just making the point that he lives very well and isn’t skint)

I don’t ever just expect anything from him. I’ve never ever asked him for money for clothes or anything like that, even growing up. There have been two occasions in my life where I would’ve really appreciated some help. The first one was that we had just bought a house, we didn’t have much money but we were managing by being smart with our decisions. Unfortunately, our cat got into a very bad accident. We had insurance that went up to 6k at the time but the cost of all the surgeries was 9k. We only had 2k left in our savings so had to use that and I was in bits over how we were going to find another 1k. I had a conversation with him but he never offered any help so I ended up putting it on a credit card. That was 4 years ago, the debt was paid off no problems.

I am now in a situation where I struggle very badly with endometriosis. It affects my life greatly and I am on the waiting list for surgery. They told me it’s about a 2 year wait. Each month seems to get worse so I decided to save up to go private in case I manage to save up faster than the NHS can give me a date. I so far only managed to save up a couple of thousand but our car got stolen and I have had to use my surgery savings for a new car. I rang my dad basically mid breakdown and asked him for the first time ever if I could please have some money towards this, even if it’s just the consultation fee. He said yes but every week he keeps asking for the money back. He says “don’t forget, it was a loan” and if we are out he says things like “you can buy me this drink, seeing as you owe me money” I am stressed out with it and wondered if I am being unreasonable. I spoke about it with my other family members and my grandma says she would help out if she had the means, but my cousin said my dads money is HIS money and it’s up to him what he spends it on. I absolutely understand this, but it does make me feel sad sometimes that he doesn’t feel the want to help me when I’ve been struggling

hope you’re doing ok with the endometriosis.

i think that as it’s a loan, you need to set up a regular monthly payment to come out automatically with an end date so it’s clear that it has been repaid. Leaving it I repaid without a plan and him asking you to cover drinks when out to “make up for it” is a recipe for resentment on both sides.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 16/12/2024 09:43

In some circumstances I would (boiler has died, deposit to buy first home) but in others I would be more hesitant.

As hard hearted as this sounds, I would not spend 9k on surgery for a cat, if it meant wiping out every penny of my savings to do so. I love cats but in my opinion vets are taking the absolute piss and owners need to draw a line. Likewise I would not generally spend money on private medical treatment for myself or others, because in my experience as a patient and NHS staff, it has to be provided within a certain timeframe if needed, and private treatment is optional rather than necessary.

Having said all that I am not rolling in money and every penny I have has been earned painstakingly, which gives you a particular perspective. If I were rolling in cash that had come easily to me I'm sure I would feel differently.

WaryPinkPoster · 16/12/2024 09:45

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Nc546888 · 16/12/2024 09:45

My parents would help out where they could especially my mum. My in laws would moan a bit but also help DH (they have shit loads of money so wouldn’t even miss a few grand).

I hope I would always help my children out in a pickle

Havalona · 16/12/2024 09:45

For a spendthrift and casual overspender no. But for anyone else, not only children I certainly would as a one off. I can afford it and don't expect it to be paid back either, where the crisis is genuine.

On the couple of occasions where I did help out I did NOT give money. I made that a rule for myself for lots of reasons. Instead I paid their utility and shopping bills and filled their car with fuel, that kind of thing. Then they used the money they would have spent on their "issue".

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 09:46

Imbusytodaysorry · 16/12/2024 09:35

Do you have a payment plan with him .
How much of the consultation fee have you paid back ! Maybe if he seen that paid back he would lend the bigger money ?
Also I don’t want to be that person but im going to say it .
You are out drinking with him when you owe him money . I don’t think he will Lend the money to you seeing that

He does come across pretty selfish.

Maybe if he seen you on pain or thought it was life threatening he would help .
I just have the feeling he sees you out socialising so doesn’t see it effecting your life.

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He loaned me £200 and the money isn’t even spent yet. I am still saving for the treatment. I do feel like just giving it back to him tbh.

In terms of going out for drinks with him, he asks me. If he thought I shouldn’t be doing that and would rather me give him the money then why is he asking if I want to go for a drink with him? I don’t really drink though, and he knows this. So maybe that’s why he asks, because he knows it’s only going to be about £10 that I spend as I’ll only have two. He is a big drinker so he rarely suggests we do anything else

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Jinglegal · 16/12/2024 09:46

AuntieMarys · 16/12/2024 08:22

I would help

Same

RoseMarigoldViolet · 16/12/2024 09:47

I would help if I could do so comfortably. But I would be cautious about unfairness between siblings if one was always helped, and less likely to help if the adult child had a pattern of being reckless with their money.

HappyTwo · 16/12/2024 09:47

I'm sorry he sounds dreadful. as an aside we have a lot of endo in our family - what did the consultant say? our daughter is on the pill constantly on advice from gyno to stop her bleeding at all and it seems to help

Bluevelvetsofa · 16/12/2024 09:48

The instinctive answer would be ‘yes’ , you'd always want to help out your nearest and dearest. The more measured response would be to consider the reason for the financial difficulty, how frequent an occurrence, what the money was for.

Pekitothebunny · 16/12/2024 09:49

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Why?? You think I’m lying? It was 4 years ago and I paid the debt off and cancelled the credit card. I didn’t pay 9k.. insurance paid 6k and I paid the 3. I also didn’t realise vet bills can rack up that high, hence why he was only covered for 6k, I thought that would be enough. He had a broken pelvis, and a broken leg, had to go to emergency out of hours vets and stay in for a long time. It cost me £300 just to walk through the emergency vets doors. Two surgeries, plus all of the aftercare and X-rays to make sure everything was healing etc.

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Blarn · 16/12/2024 09:49

My parents did. We had a run of things which affected us financially and we had got to the point where even though everything was technically better we were just slipping further into debt. I'm not sure what would have happened without my parents help and we will be forever grateful.