What was your position on Amber Heard & Johnny Depp

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I wonder if your feelings have changed since the trial?

I always viewed their situation as mutually toxic - they both abused and were abused. I honestly hated seeing people seemingly enjoying the tearing down and gaslighting of Amber. I think Amber did herself no favours. She’s clearly a narcissist and it was obvious when she was recounting her experiences. Very dramatic and forced. But I still believe she was hurt by Depp.

Johnny Depp has garnered so much good will for just being Johnny Depp. Not to mention the Children’s hospital visits. But multiple things can be true at once. He can be charitable with his time whilst also being an abuser.

Depp may never have hit Kate Moss. But that has no bearing on his relationship with Heard. In some relationships fighting is almost like foreplay. The emotion, passion etc can be addictive. It probably excited them both to fight and make up.

It is accepted Johnny Depp was addicted to both drugs and alcohol. In my experience, alcoholic men can be absolute monsters. I had an abusive father and the anger just came to the fore as soon as he drank.

Amber is back in the news and I just feel very sorry for her. I’m sure she played her part but I’m sure she was also hurt. Just chewed up and spat out.

That's an interesting leap in logic, If you are going to apply it to women then you should also be applying it to men.

But as has been said before about males that are not convicted.
"just because they didn't get a guilty verdict doesn't mean that they are innocent."

I do apply it to female perpetrators too. However there are less of them.

It is interesting logic as to why you think I wouldn't - why is that? And the same applies to women. However things like the quota are focused purely on letting men walk free to fudge data - is that ok?

I think that your bias is showing as we will never know the actual number of abusers of either sex as so many victims never report their abuser.

Agreed. Will never forget "my dog stepped on a bee..."

Nice deflection from answering.

It isn't bias when it is proven and factual. Of course we will never know the true numbers of either sex but they sure as hell are not equal and never will be. If the conviction levels were about 50/50 then I would say so but when males are in the high 90% and females in the single digits then the difference is staggering. and when you couple with certain male only crimes or crimes that only impact on females - femicide for one. And if you look at the data such as the missing 100 million females globally who are not alive because they are females so much so it has changed the global ratio then there isn't any denying who the main perpetrators are.

But keep on assuming it is equal by all means. It isn't biased when the facts are there.

I don't believe half of what she said she should have got divorced taken her money and left him to self destruct but nope she had to push and lie about him (I do believe she lied and expected people to believe her because he was an addict) attention seeking narcissistic behaviour she needed to be the one to "win" and she couldn't compete with him in the end

They bought out the absolute worst in each other he was a nasty drunk she was a cheat a liar and antagonist you could see in her recordings she attacked him till he reacted then she had her "evidence" he won because he threw it out there I'm not perfect I have an issue and all she did was "his fault I'm innocent" " his fault I'm innocent" they show her cheating and it's still " his fault" no accountability at all

Most of his ex girlfriends and wives say nice things about him and there is no need for them to lie kate moss is a clear example no bullshit straight to the point she had nothing to gain from lying about him

I haven't said that its equal, that is you projecting, your method of "proven and factual" is based on a flawed system which you are assuming is never wrong.
By your methodology any person that is not convicted did not do the crime.
We know this to be wrong.

I don’t understand what you are saying. What is conviction data? Can you give a citation please?

Convictions where there has been a false accusation. It is the conviction data on ONS.

I went to ONS.gov.uk and searched for conviction data but I got nothing remotely relevant. It asked if I wanted condition data. Baffling.

His Status and support certainly worked in his favour. I think she may have exaggerated her story. The charity donation or lack of was awful. But at the end of the day they were in a toxic relationship. I didn’t like the way he seemed to laugh through the trial.