What was your position on Amber Heard & Johnny Depp

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I wonder if your feelings have changed since the trial?

I always viewed their situation as mutually toxic - they both abused and were abused. I honestly hated seeing people seemingly enjoying the tearing down and gaslighting of Amber. I think Amber did herself no favours. She’s clearly a narcissist and it was obvious when she was recounting her experiences. Very dramatic and forced. But I still believe she was hurt by Depp.

Johnny Depp has garnered so much good will for just being Johnny Depp. Not to mention the Children’s hospital visits. But multiple things can be true at once. He can be charitable with his time whilst also being an abuser.

Depp may never have hit Kate Moss. But that has no bearing on his relationship with Heard. In some relationships fighting is almost like foreplay. The emotion, passion etc can be addictive. It probably excited them both to fight and make up.

It is accepted Johnny Depp was addicted to both drugs and alcohol. In my experience, alcoholic men can be absolute monsters. I had an abusive father and the anger just came to the fore as soon as he drank.

Amber is back in the news and I just feel very sorry for her. I’m sure she played her part but I’m sure she was also hurt. Just chewed up and spat out.

Both toxic, damaged people who used every single grubby weapon available to them to sling shit at each other thus both came out of it stinking.

Because you said she did not write the oped for people to enjoy?

I think she's a liar so that's exactly why she wrote it.

Why do you think she wrote it if she's not a victim?

Plus any one who watched the trial could see moments where Johnny Depp found the trial entertaining.

Not sure why the rest of us shouldn't given it was his life and character being dissected.

I have the complete different view of this. I feel that women can do no wrong. I would never ever believe a woman automatically until I heard both sides, in any situation.

Same!

Both as bad as each other. BUT the texts between Depp and Bettany - unspeakable and I despise both of them

I feel the same. If you look purely at his own dating history, it does not speak in his favor. Sure, he may not have abused every woman he has dated, but Amber was not his only victim. She fought back and there seems to be a consensus that makes it "mutual" abuse. I don't buy it, and I hope the fuckers drinks himself to death.

I still think AH is and was an awful person. The lies and the absolute awful acting in court - just awful.

It’s a Tortoise one - it’s good.

What about the fact she was previously arrested for domestic violence?

And that she called him a baby on tape for complaining that she punched him?

That was the case, she didn't expect ppl to laugh at it and have a jolly time did she? Not hard to understand. I made a reply and didn't comment on anything to do with who was an abuser.

Why did she write it? I am not she am I? But I can tell you it wasn't to make ppl laugh?

So you admit now I didn't say it and never mentioned who was a victim at all. So why did you lie and why did you assume I meant AH was the victim - why did your mind automatically go to her as a victim and not him? Odd that.

Women are falsely accused more often than men. 175 times more often. Men are the most likely to lie.

Do you say the same when a man says he is falsely accused and if not why not when men are the main source of false allegations and women the most likely victim.

This sums it up.

Where did I say she wrote it for people to laugh?

I think she wrote it for attention and entertainment. She got both.

If something is entertaining it is fun. So you think she did it for fun?

You think she did it for fun and for attention? Do you know what attention anyone gets when they declare things like that? Negative. So she did it on purpose to get death threats and negative attention? Makes lots of sense.

Again ignoring the lies you told about me.

She was caught out lying and was absolutely fake and narcissistic. No sympathy at all. The way she stared at the jury was contrived and creepy.

It's more of a Saudi publicity machine. If you listen to the Who Trolled Amber podcast (which takes no side in the relationship)
Jonny Depp has a deal with the Saudi government for film festivals and personal appearances. They bankrolled a PR offensive combined with their extensive troll farm operations.

being arrested for Domestic Abuse and punching your husband is a bit more than not being perfect

That is incorrect

I believe her.

I was team Amber until I watched the trial and listened to the tapes of her berating him, talking about hitting him and it being his own fault, saw copies of the injury reports she'd inflicted on him. He's a drunk and has a drug problem but she's an abuser and no intelligent person can listen to those tapes and think otherwise.

I think he's a drunken drug abusing scruff. Not sure what she saw in him in the first place.

And I believed it....until I watched the trail.
She was like a dog with a bone
She lied, and lied and lied again.
She was no victim.

She could have walked away but she wanted to nail him to ground.

A leg up in her career and more money. Fame and fortune.

That is not incorrect, conviction data shows that men falsely accuse 175 times more than women. As they are the main perpetrators and of course perpetrators falsely accuse their victims of lying every time to get away with it. They frame themselves as the victim.

The conviction data proves it. It is there in black and white. Proven.

Do you honestly think that perpetrators are honest?