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AIBU to feel completely distressed by the viral video of the aftermath of onlyfans worker Lily P 'sleeping with' 100 men?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 09:48

I've tried to word this carefully.

Lily, an onlyfans star, aged 20something I'm guessing, slept with 100 men in one go, as part of a documentary.

Following this, she's on camera crying. She says her eyes hurt as some of the men ejaculated in them, despite her saying no.

My heart is broken for this girl. Im a feminist but I've never thought of sex work as being empowering?

Surely, the empowerment of sex work has failed this poor girl? And surely the 100 men who agreed to do this are criminals???

I'm so angry. You could see in the video that Lily is realising what a mistake this was and is very traumatised.

Anyway, didn't see a thread on this so thought I'd post. My heart goes out to her, and my brain feels very angry at those who failed to protect her.

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NewBootsWeather · 11/12/2024 11:45

@Leavesandacorns that is Bonnie Blue targeting the young students and their Dad's.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 11:45

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 11:43

But this isn't sex work/prostitution, is it? It's a publicity stunt.

I mean, this is defo sex work in that she's engaging in sex for her perceived 'career'

I'd say it is prostitution as well 🥺

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Heronwatcher · 11/12/2024 11:45

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 11:39

I haven't commented on whether people should feel sorry for her.

I've mentioned the role of the men in this and the fact that the focus is on one person out of the 101 who participated.

Perhaps because as I understand it she was the one that organised the whole fucking stupid thing?

Busywithsomething · 11/12/2024 11:46

I feel the same sympathy as I would feel towards anyone who planned to sleep with 100 men as a publicity stunt. Fvck around and find out you don't like it.

SocksAndTheCity · 11/12/2024 11:46

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 11:43

I wonder whether this kind of behaviour could be considered reckless and self endangering though

Probably. As could playing rugby, skiing, parkour, having cosmetic surgery, riding a motorcycle or eating the dodgy hot dogs they sell on Westminster Bridge.

None of that means that people don't do them, or that they should not be allowed to choose to do them.

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 11:46

@MumOfOneAllAlone no, it's a woman looking for internet fame. She has chosen to do this. She is a consenting adult. Just because it doesn't line up with your morals doesn't make it a symptom of a mental illness

MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking · 11/12/2024 11:47

anxioussister · 11/12/2024 10:59

I think one of the saddest things about the way society is set up is that women feel like sex work can be empowering - because it (can, for some women) feel like admiration / popularity / desirability.

The problem is, that however you want to argue it, there is a supply and demand issue for sex (generally men want it, women are often the gate keepers)

Women confuse the demand for them as a sexual partner with the demand for them as a life partner and then there’s a horrible realisation when the two don’t match up. The aftermath of sex where one has felt very desired with the cold reality that your company, maybe is not.

Of course there are plenty of circumstances where women just want no strings sex - and it can be perfectly rewarding for both parties. But this woman’s search for notoriety / fame / adulation ultimately is her trying to remedy a gap where she hasn’t felt loved + important - so the crashing sense that ‘actually that doesn’t serve me at all’ is going to feel awful.

I feel horrible for her - she needs to work out what the hole is in her heart that she’s trying to fill - and seek out ways of doing it that don’t harm her.

Absolutely. Whoever sold the idea that sex work is "empowering" to women (probably a man), played an absolute blinder.

"No ladies, don't listen to those silly feminists telling you that you don't have to provide us with sexual services for money anymore, you don't have to do what they tell you. In fact, it's more empowering not to. Yeah, that's right, errm, cause then it's your choice not to, what do those silly hags know anyway? So give us more, and you know what? The more extremes you go to, the more empowered you feel! Hooray! What a girlboss! You know, this actually makes you more of a feminist than those boring old wimmins rights women"

Then muttering as he walks off "I can't believe they actually fell for that...."

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 11:47

Leavesandacorns · 11/12/2024 11:42

Is this the woman that specifically targets 18 year old boys who are away from home for the first time?

Obviously no one should break any agreed rules during sex, but generally speaking, she's not a victim.

Regardless of how you view her work she's an incredibly skilled business woman who has made a fortune by creating viral content. And I suspect this is another carefully sought out stunt to increase her success, especially as she's recently been receiving negative publicity from people concerned about the ethics of what's she's doing, both in regards to targeting very young men she labels 'barely legal', and by the message her content potentially sends to/about young women and their status as sex objects .

If she's now using her experiences to highlight issues like men breaking consent by performing acts that weren't agreed to, good! She's got an amazing platform to use. But don't rewrite her as a poor naive girl... you are doing her a huge disservice.

Oo I dunno, that video of her after she'd finished made me think of her as a victim tbh

I don't think she's doing this all herself, she has others vested in her financial success. Imo I don't think she's business savvy at all but is indeed being used as a moneymaker

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LunaMay · 11/12/2024 11:48

Got what she wanted - attention. How the heck are we demonising the men in this situation. Onlyfans make women feel so independent yet it is the men putting the money in their pockets...

Gross all round.

femfemlicious · 11/12/2024 11:49

FranticFrankie · 11/12/2024 10:04

Is she the one that’s planning 1000 men? Or a different one?
In what world would anyone think this is a positive thing? It’s beyond grim
Stop the world, I so need to get off

I didn’t know ejaculating in eyes was a thing. Gross.

It's her. She's a nutter!

stripeyshutters · 11/12/2024 11:49

As the papers say she is a porn star.

NovaF · 11/12/2024 11:50

https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/10/lily-phillips-tears-aftermath-sleeping-101-men-a-day-22160790/amp/

Lily admits that by the 30th encounter, she started to disassociate, adding: ‘It’s not like normal sex. I can only think of five, six, 10 guys that I remember and that’s it. It’s weird.’

Josh seems to be surprised that the porn star ‘so upset’ at the end of it all, but even more so when she later announces her plans to attempt a new record – sleeping with 1,000 men in a single day.

Article also mentions her sleeping with sixth formers. I have little sympathy for someone that chooses all of this

Lily Phillips in tears in the aftermath of sleeping with 101 men in a day

'It's not for the weak.'

https://metro.co.uk/2024/12/10/lily-phillips-tears-aftermath-sleeping-101-men-a-day-22160790/amp

SilverDoe · 11/12/2024 11:51

Whathappensnowplease · 11/12/2024 09:57

Well the type of men who would take part in this type of thing are hardly going to be decent people who respect boundaries and women.
I'm totally against victim blaming as a rule but if she voluntarily put herself in this position then I think it's double standards to complain about these men not behaving like gentlemen.

Isn't this the crux of the whole problem though for women, and is completed rooted in misogyny?

Takes like this support the idea that women can't engage in consensual sexual acts, because showing her sexuality will inevitably lead to men pushing it too far? And it's somehow her fault, for engaging in the consensual part?

Jellycats4life · 11/12/2024 11:53

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 11:46

@MumOfOneAllAlone no, it's a woman looking for internet fame. She has chosen to do this. She is a consenting adult. Just because it doesn't line up with your morals doesn't make it a symptom of a mental illness

How can you say (in a previous post) that this isn’t prostitution, and follow it up with this 😳

Of course it’s prostitution. Of course she’s mentally ill. Only a profoundly fucked up young woman could debase herself like this for money, attention and status in the porn industry.

Consent doesn’t happen in a vacuum. We now live in such a porn saturated, sick society, young women have been duped into thinking the likes of OnlyFans is a wonderful way to obtain piles of easy, consequence free cash. How depressing.

Newbutoldfather · 11/12/2024 11:54

Adults of sound mind have free will.

They can choose to do things that are extremely stupid and long term self-harming with this free will.

I do think it is dangerous to infantilise grown women. Where does it end? Telling them who they can and cannot date, chaperones in case they behave inappropriately?

I do think her behaviour is sad, as is the behaviour of the men. I wonder how they will feel when their future children see the video.

But free will is like free speech. You can’t only have free will when you are making choices others approve of; otherwise it isn’t free will at all.

dingalings · 11/12/2024 11:54

I honestly couldn't care a less
Her problem
Her stupidity
Let her crack on

SassK · 11/12/2024 11:55

She's already planning her next stunt. It's possible (likely) she has some form of ism or pathy. Regardless, what she does is SO extreme that it's pointless trying to fathom or explain. She's not mainstream, you have to go looking for this type of news 'story' so she's easily avoided (as for influencing young women - please, behave. There's NO other young woman in the UK currently - or likely to be - seeking to challenge her!).
Fact is there are people as scary as this girl walking among us, however they're VERY few and far between.

SocksAndTheCity · 11/12/2024 11:57

So all women who have sex in ways that you disapprove are 'mentally ill', @Jellycats4life ?

Does that include casual sex with randoms, or just when money is exchanged, or when it's recorded for others to view? In which ways and in which situations is it acceptable for women to have sex, just so we know?

Thetalesofbeedlethebard · 11/12/2024 11:58

Wtf...who ejaculates in someone's eye?

What makes me sick is the fact that young people (both boys and girls) are being exposed to this hideous online material and then go on to think this is normal sexual behaviour.

Pancakeflipper · 11/12/2024 11:58

Lily Phillips post comments appeared on my feed today.. she said this activity "it's not the weak girls"

Ermmmmm "weak..."
Not the word I would select.

Her actions make me feel.sick. it is not empowering to women. It gives the green light to treat people disrespectfully regarding sex.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 11/12/2024 11:59

She can't have been that traumatised as she now wants to sleep with 1000 men in 24 hours (thanks to the Mail Online for that article).

Whathappensnowplease · 11/12/2024 11:59

SilverDoe · 11/12/2024 11:51

Isn't this the crux of the whole problem though for women, and is completed rooted in misogyny?

Takes like this support the idea that women can't engage in consensual sexual acts, because showing her sexuality will inevitably lead to men pushing it too far? And it's somehow her fault, for engaging in the consensual part?

If the woman values herself so poorly that she wants to go out and sleep with 100 men in day then she has the right to do that.
But it is faux naivety to think that when women take part in these stunts they aren't playing into societies misogynistic view of women.
She is giving all the signals that her body is just there for men to use.
I really despair of a feminist narrative that turns this into a positive thing for women. She is selling her body and reinforcing misogynistic stereotypes.

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 11:59

@Jellycats4life she's not mentally unwell. She's just a woman with different morals to you.

SassK · 11/12/2024 12:00

Jellycats4life · 11/12/2024 11:53

How can you say (in a previous post) that this isn’t prostitution, and follow it up with this 😳

Of course it’s prostitution. Of course she’s mentally ill. Only a profoundly fucked up young woman could debase herself like this for money, attention and status in the porn industry.

Consent doesn’t happen in a vacuum. We now live in such a porn saturated, sick society, young women have been duped into thinking the likes of OnlyFans is a wonderful way to obtain piles of easy, consequence free cash. How depressing.

This is hyperbole. The overwhelming majority of young women (99.9%) aren't on onlyfans, nor would they even consider it. It's attitudes like yours that are problematic, perpetuating the myth that young women are uninformed/impressionable sheep.

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 11/12/2024 12:00

If there is 100 men in a day and allowing 12 hours for sleeping and going to the toilet and eating (although some of that could be simultaneous, couldn’t it?) that’s an average of 7.2 minutes per man, that’s a pretty tight schedule, the logistics would be very tricky and I think you would need staff to sort prime them up first.

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