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AIBU to feel completely distressed by the viral video of the aftermath of onlyfans worker Lily P 'sleeping with' 100 men?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 09:48

I've tried to word this carefully.

Lily, an onlyfans star, aged 20something I'm guessing, slept with 100 men in one go, as part of a documentary.

Following this, she's on camera crying. She says her eyes hurt as some of the men ejaculated in them, despite her saying no.

My heart is broken for this girl. Im a feminist but I've never thought of sex work as being empowering?

Surely, the empowerment of sex work has failed this poor girl? And surely the 100 men who agreed to do this are criminals???

I'm so angry. You could see in the video that Lily is realising what a mistake this was and is very traumatised.

Anyway, didn't see a thread on this so thought I'd post. My heart goes out to her, and my brain feels very angry at those who failed to protect her.

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LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 19:38

Genuinely organically, her content has just come up on my TikTok.

It seems as though shes more upset that sleeping with 101 guys didn't feel as good for her as sex with one man did. She says by man 30 it had become robotic.

She's then posting about being the first woman to sleep with 1000 men in a day. She's posting about her "meet and cheat" sessions, she's offering to women to give their boyfriend/husband "the best night of their lives".

She lives in a luxury apartment, she's clearly happy and she's not regretful. She's fine.

Foxlover46 · 11/12/2024 19:40

I feel sad for any women dating / married to any of the men participating
Course they were going to ejaculate in her face / eyes that's the porn narrative now isn't it and the hands round the throat etc
Personally I can't think of anything worse than what she filmed , she's her own woman to make these choices but I agree the men did not have consent to do that

Dontlletmedownbruce · 11/12/2024 19:41

She's disgusting, I could never feel sorry for her. If she feels shame for the vile creature she has become then that's on her. If those 100 men were crying on camera saying they regret it would they be victims too? Seriously, talk about double standards

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 19:41

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 19:37

I think that as a grown woman it's weird to look at a 23 year old who is crying after realising the reality of her situation, who says she disassociated from her body and doesn't remember the tens of people using her to masturbate with, and feel negatively and unkindly towards her.

Completely agree with this. I wouldn't want this experience for anybody, whether they have chosen it or not.

Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 19:45

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 19:37

I think that as a grown woman it's weird to look at a 23 year old who is crying after realising the reality of her situation, who says she disassociated from her body and doesn't remember the tens of people using her to masturbate with, and feel negatively and unkindly towards her.

A 23-year old? You mean another grown woman? 23 isn’t a child.

InterIgnis · 11/12/2024 19:45

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 19:37

I think that as a grown woman it's weird to look at a 23 year old who is crying after realising the reality of her situation, who says she disassociated from her body and doesn't remember the tens of people using her to masturbate with, and feel negatively and unkindly towards her.

Said 23 year old is a grown woman that was and is capable of making her own decisions. Any regret, and it’s far from inevitable that she will regret this, is for her to deal with. The potential for regret is not justification to deny people the right to make their own decisions.

She may or may not have been a victim of sexual assault as a child. We don’t know. Even if she was, that again isn’t something that justifies infantilizing her stripping her of liberty as an adult, as if that isn’t victimizing in itself.

I don’t feel unkindly towards her at all. I don’t feel anything towards her, tbh. What she chooses to do isn’t my business.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 19:46

Dontlletmedownbruce · 11/12/2024 19:41

She's disgusting, I could never feel sorry for her. If she feels shame for the vile creature she has become then that's on her. If those 100 men were crying on camera saying they regret it would they be victims too? Seriously, talk about double standards

Vile creature?? This is a human being, someone's child who has, i think most would agree, completely lost her way?

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WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 19:47

Foxlover46 · 11/12/2024 19:40

I feel sad for any women dating / married to any of the men participating
Course they were going to ejaculate in her face / eyes that's the porn narrative now isn't it and the hands round the throat etc
Personally I can't think of anything worse than what she filmed , she's her own woman to make these choices but I agree the men did not have consent to do that

You feel sad for them because they are with the sort of man who would queue up to use a woman's body?

"Course they were going to......" is disgusting, no better than defence barristers asking "why did you wear that?".

She had set a very low bar and they limbo'd under it.

Aduvetday · 11/12/2024 19:47

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 19:37

I think that as a grown woman it's weird to look at a 23 year old who is crying after realising the reality of her situation, who says she disassociated from her body and doesn't remember the tens of people using her to masturbate with, and feel negatively and unkindly towards her.

Says a lot about them as women to be honest.

soupfiend · 11/12/2024 19:50

I havent read the thread and dont know who this person is but about 20 years ago, perhaps more, there was a documentary about a porn star in America, I think she was chinese american who had sex with 100 men one after the other, the documentary pictured them queuing up and it was being filmed obviously, so its not new. She didnt appear distressed or anything, it was her idea from what I remember.

People do these sorts of things quite willingly.

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 11/12/2024 19:50

I feel sorry for any woman who is sexually assaulted, whatever the number of people she’s had sex with. Her biggest crime was naivety. To sell your body in such a public way to so many men in a short space of time and think you won’t be abused in any way and there won’t be a single one of them who take things to a level you don’t like is naive but that’s her only “crime” here. The men who buy sex are worse imo especially when they are given clear boundaries and don’t respect them.

Whether sex work is empowering or no is down to the individual who is doing said sex work. I don’t think I’d find it empowering if it was me doing it.

Foxlover46 · 11/12/2024 19:52

@WasThatACorner the way I worded that was wrong , I meant that they are scumbags who obviously had no intention respecting any of her boundaries or her whilst they enjoyed themselves
I meant that as in it wouldn't surprise me at all , no disrespect to her at all that is all on them.
And yes I do feel sad for their next partners or current because I can't imagine ever wanting to be with someone who thinks using a woman's body this way is ok , but that's just me.
She could sleep with a 1000 men if she tells them not to do something in my opinion then doing it regardless is sexual assault

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 19:52

LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 11/12/2024 19:50

I feel sorry for any woman who is sexually assaulted, whatever the number of people she’s had sex with. Her biggest crime was naivety. To sell your body in such a public way to so many men in a short space of time and think you won’t be abused in any way and there won’t be a single one of them who take things to a level you don’t like is naive but that’s her only “crime” here. The men who buy sex are worse imo especially when they are given clear boundaries and don’t respect them.

Whether sex work is empowering or no is down to the individual who is doing said sex work. I don’t think I’d find it empowering if it was me doing it.

I 100% wouldn't find it empowering at all. I really hate that movement of people trying to reframe exploitation as a woman's choice 🥺

Completely agree with you

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Startinganew32 · 11/12/2024 19:52

Aduvetday · 11/12/2024 19:47

Says a lot about them as women to be honest.

I mean I’d sympathise somewhat if she did learn from it and didn’t want to do it again but the opposite is true. Also I saw the clip - she’s hardly devastated or sobbing her eyes out. She’s probably in physical pain as anyone would be if they’ve been penetrated for 14 hours - I’d be screaming in agony. But other than that she’s not said she regretted it and she plans to do it again.
I don’t think it says anything about anyone as a woman that we aren’t fawning over someone who has seemingly no morals (encouraging cheating etc)

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 19:53

InterIgnis · 11/12/2024 19:45

Said 23 year old is a grown woman that was and is capable of making her own decisions. Any regret, and it’s far from inevitable that she will regret this, is for her to deal with. The potential for regret is not justification to deny people the right to make their own decisions.

She may or may not have been a victim of sexual assault as a child. We don’t know. Even if she was, that again isn’t something that justifies infantilizing her stripping her of liberty as an adult, as if that isn’t victimizing in itself.

I don’t feel unkindly towards her at all. I don’t feel anything towards her, tbh. What she chooses to do isn’t my business.

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Again, this avoids looking at the bigger picture. At least 36101 people participated in this if we include her subscribers.

It isn't infantilizing anyone to say "this doesn't feel ok to me and I want to understand what is happening" the conversation is bigger than one person which seems to be where many people are struggling.

soupfiend · 11/12/2024 19:54

SallyWD · 11/12/2024 19:16

So if a man in his 20s was repeatedly filming himself taking the virginity of teenage girls would you say the same? Poor guy, he probably didn't have a loving upbringing with good female role models. Or would you just think he's gross 🤔?

Absolutely this!

So a woman is always a victim and a man is always just a perpetrator despite possibly the same history.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 11/12/2024 19:55

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 19:46

Vile creature?? This is a human being, someone's child who has, i think most would agree, completely lost her way?

As are all the 100 men by that rationale, why aren't you upset for them?

This assumption that women are always victims, never in the position of power and their consent isn't really valid because they are too vulnerable to know their own minds is just sexist. When its implied a woman said yes but meant no, the corollary is also implied, that is much more dangerous IMO.

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 11/12/2024 19:58

Dontlletmedownbruce · 11/12/2024 19:55

As are all the 100 men by that rationale, why aren't you upset for them?

This assumption that women are always victims, never in the position of power and their consent isn't really valid because they are too vulnerable to know their own minds is just sexist. When its implied a woman said yes but meant no, the corollary is also implied, that is much more dangerous IMO.

Yes, exactly - it's so infantilising.

She's an adult who made admittedly bad choices, but that's not the men's fault, most of those guys are probably fucked up too - nobody is feeling bad for them.

Women are somehow always the victim, even when they are doing exactly what they set out to do - so ridiculous.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 19:59

Foxlover46 · 11/12/2024 19:52

@WasThatACorner the way I worded that was wrong , I meant that they are scumbags who obviously had no intention respecting any of her boundaries or her whilst they enjoyed themselves
I meant that as in it wouldn't surprise me at all , no disrespect to her at all that is all on them.
And yes I do feel sad for their next partners or current because I can't imagine ever wanting to be with someone who thinks using a woman's body this way is ok , but that's just me.
She could sleep with a 1000 men if she tells them not to do something in my opinion then doing it regardless is sexual assault

No, that's not just you. Judging from this thread, there are a minority of women who agree with you that using a woman's body as a commodity is reprehensible.

100% agree with you, whatever boundaries any person sets should be respected and they can be amended at any time.

I apologise, I read your post as "I feel sorry for the good women who will get caught up in this".

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:00

Dontlletmedownbruce · 11/12/2024 19:55

As are all the 100 men by that rationale, why aren't you upset for them?

This assumption that women are always victims, never in the position of power and their consent isn't really valid because they are too vulnerable to know their own minds is just sexist. When its implied a woman said yes but meant no, the corollary is also implied, that is much more dangerous IMO.

The 100 men that took part in this are the vile creatures.

Ill get jumped on for this but the power balance just isn't the same.

The 100 men who took part in this weren't being penetrated and having their body used. They weren't getting sperm all over them and in their eye (except possibly the one who wanted to go last and hoover up the ejaculate)

The 100 men aren't on camera, with their reputations ruined for all to see. As far as we know they didnt disassociate halfway through. And they weren't left in tears at being used in such a way. They are in a completely different situation.

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SaMMaxis170 · 11/12/2024 20:00

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 11/12/2024 19:58

Yes, exactly - it's so infantilising.

She's an adult who made admittedly bad choices, but that's not the men's fault, most of those guys are probably fucked up too - nobody is feeling bad for them.

Women are somehow always the victim, even when they are doing exactly what they set out to do - so ridiculous.

seems they want the power to do x and when they do because its different than what the majority of other women would do then how can it still not be their choice etc @MumOfOneAllAlone

Jabtastic · 11/12/2024 20:01

I don't really understand why so many people are seeking out footage of this. What she is doing is grim at best and self-harm at worst. Denying her the oxygen of publicity is probably the best thing for her.

WasThatACorner · 11/12/2024 20:01

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 11/12/2024 19:58

Yes, exactly - it's so infantilising.

She's an adult who made admittedly bad choices, but that's not the men's fault, most of those guys are probably fucked up too - nobody is feeling bad for them.

Women are somehow always the victim, even when they are doing exactly what they set out to do - so ridiculous.

She didn't say yes but mean no. She said no to men ejaculations on her eyes.

Low bar that was clearly communicated.

It's infantilising to say "of course the men did it anyway" like they're toddlers who couldn't help but eat the chocolate buttons.

SaMMaxis170 · 11/12/2024 20:01

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:00

The 100 men that took part in this are the vile creatures.

Ill get jumped on for this but the power balance just isn't the same.

The 100 men who took part in this weren't being penetrated and having their body used. They weren't getting sperm all over them and in their eye (except possibly the one who wanted to go last and hoover up the ejaculate)

The 100 men aren't on camera, with their reputations ruined for all to see. As far as we know they didnt disassociate halfway through. And they weren't left in tears at being used in such a way. They are in a completely different situation.

so why do the experiment to begin with ?

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/12/2024 20:02

SaMMaxis170 · 11/12/2024 20:00

seems they want the power to do x and when they do because its different than what the majority of other women would do then how can it still not be their choice etc @MumOfOneAllAlone

There are many things that women do that I wouldn't. I don't think they're all victims and don't know their own mind.

I do think that in this extreme example though, she is a victim and those around her are profiting from her being so

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