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Parter lying about doctor's message

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Houdogni · 11/12/2024 07:50

This is a bit of a strange one and I'm not sure if I'm over-thinking it.

My partner has recently had some symptoms which may be an indicator of cancer. He had a blood test, which showed a worrying result so this was followed up by a scan.

A couple of days after the scan, partner was upset because he had missed a call from the hospital while he was working. They had left a message saying that they wanted to discuss his scan and would call later or the next day.

He has been out of his mind with worry, saying that as the doctor is phoning so soon after the scan, it must be bad news. The hospital didn't call back yesterday and when partner called them, he just got a recorded message.

This morning, while partner was still in bed, I spotted his phone, so thought I'd listen to the message to see if I could pick up any clues as to whether it would be good or bad news. I should say now, that I have never snooped on his phone before. I've never had any reason to. I just wanted to put my mind at rest or be able to prepare myself for the worst.

The voicemail was saved and the doctor clearly says "I want to talk about your scan. There is nothing to worry about but I'll call you later or tomorrow". Obviously this is great news but my partner had not said anything about the "nothing to worry about" comment.

This morning, I asked if I could listen to the message but he told me he hadn't saved it (lie). He was still going on about how it must definitely bad news so I asked him if the doctor had given any indication at all, as I would've expected him to call again that afternoon if bad news. He said 'no'. So I outright asked if the doctor had said 'don't worry' or anything like that and he said no (lie).

I'm just really confused as to why he's lying. Surely he would want to put my mind at rest by letting me know that the doctor had said that there is nothing to worry about. Part of me wonders if he is secretly enjoying the drama of me worrying that he is seriously ill. Any thoughts please?

YABU - he just wants to be absolutely sure of his results before telling me.
YANBU - it is horrible of him to lie about such a serious matter.

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 11/12/2024 09:46

she wasn’t snooping as such

What would you call listening to someone's voicemails without their permission in order to find out personal health information?

MissyPants · 11/12/2024 09:46

I think he's dealing with it in his own way.
Even tho the doctor said there is nothing to worry about he is anxious about them calling so soon and wanting to discuss it, so he's kind of concentrated on that bit rather than the nothing to worry about. He probably thinks it's something to worry about. Let him get on with it and process it his way.
It is confidential pp's are right. Altho I understand your frustration you shouldn't have l

AgnesX · 11/12/2024 09:46

emailnonse · 11/12/2024 07:52

This morning, while partner was still in bed, I spotted his phone, so thought I'd listen to the message to see if I could pick up any clues as to whether it would be good or bad news.

unbelievable
just unbelievable

you should be utterly ashamed of yourself

Missing the point entirely 🙄

Houdogni · 11/12/2024 09:46

jellykitkat · 11/12/2024 09:35

So you grilled him endlessly about the message instead of listening to how he feels? And then invaded his privacy? Not good, not good at all.

No I didn't grill him endlessly, and from the beginning, I have listened to how he feels. Are you getting mixed up with someone else?

OP posts:
MissyPants · 11/12/2024 09:47

Looked on his phone.
Sorry, I pressed send accidentally before finishing!

Astrabees · 11/12/2024 09:47

You did nothing wrong in listening to the message, it was in his best interests. I hope it all works out for you both. I’m thinking perhaps prostate problems? The blood test is notoriously unreliable.🌺

Rosscameasdoody · 11/12/2024 09:47

KrisAkabusi · 11/12/2024 09:41

@Rosscameasdoody Thanks for the message. No, it was 18 months ago, well after the pandemic. And it hadn't been arranged. Because I am prone to moles, I see a dermatologist once a year. Sometime she removes one or two, sometimes none. They are all routinely biopsied after removal. On my last visit she took an extra biopsy from a different type of lump. Again, pretty routine. I've been doing this for about ten years. She phoned me about a month after the last one to say that the additional lump had biopsied as cancerous, in particular (and why it was so long after removal as they needed to do some extra checks) it was t-cell lymphoma, a blood/bone marrow cancer, not skin cancer that she would normally deal with. I was just after parking the car in town, so it came as a bit of a shock. But I can't imagine any other way of doing it. Her saying that she needed to see me without saying why would only have lead to worrying until I did. At least this way I already had the bad news and could start to deal with it.

I'm doing ok now. The next stage of treatment is high-risk, so they don't want to do anything until the risk of doing nothing becomes greater than the risk of leaving alone for now. So I'm trying to carry on normal life as much as possible. I see various consultants every three months so it's all been face to face since that initial call.

Wow, sounds very difficult for you. I suppose, as you say, the way you were notified was appropriate to the circumstances, so understandable. I’m so sorry you’re facing this, and l wish you well.

jellykitkat · 11/12/2024 09:48

Houdogni · 11/12/2024 09:46

No I didn't grill him endlessly, and from the beginning, I have listened to how he feels. Are you getting mixed up with someone else?

You seem to have asked him a lot of questions about exactly what the message says and if he saved it and if it had these exact words or those ones. Sounds like grilling to me.

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 09:58

@jellykitkat why is everyone brushing over the fact her partner lied to her face? He's using this to manipulate her

aodirjjd · 11/12/2024 10:00

I agree with others that he’s probably listened to the voicemail once and then not heard it properly. Or he did hear it properly but he’s still really anxious and he doesn’t want people telling him not to be silly /his feelings aren’t valid so he’s choosing to keep what the doctor said quiet as he doesn’t beleive it yet.

also my voicemails save automatically I have to consciously delete them.

I would try and reassure him that if it was bad news the doctor (probably) wouldn’t be doing it over the phone. I’m not saying its never happened but with cancer I think they’d call you in. Breaking the news of cancer from my experience is one of the things nhs gets rights.

Mirabai · 11/12/2024 10:00

Doggymummar · 11/12/2024 07:53

I don't think he is lying, he probably focused on a different part of the message. I had a breast cancer scare in the summer and was asked to go for additional routine tests. I didn't 'hear' routine and focused on having to go to the cancer wing.

This. I don’t think he’s necessarily lying. Just so tied up with anxiety he’s not registering what the doctor is actually saying.

“It’s nothing to worry about” could be interpreted in different ways. It’s not a definitive all clear until he’s been told face to face conclusively benign.

Rosscameasdoody · 11/12/2024 10:02

SoupDragon · 11/12/2024 09:46

she wasn’t snooping as such

What would you call listening to someone's voicemails without their permission in order to find out personal health information?

I wouldn’t call it snooping for a start. She did it with the best of intentions. And as l said before, when you have a close partner or spouse, health problems affect both partners. I was recently diagnosed with cancer. My partner has been out of his mind with worry. I’ve made sure he can access all the letters and test results in my hospital online portal and can read them whenever he has doubts or questions, and he’s present at every appointment.

I will be undergoing a mastectomy next week after the failure of a lumpectomy a few weeks ago, and yesterday was told that a lymph node biopsy has shown cancer cells, so will be having more surgery for that. DH is fully up to speed and I wouldn’t have it any other way. The thought of lying and withholding information to actively cause worry where there is no need is just abhorrent. And on this showing I really feel for OP because if he’s doing this to cause unnecessary drama at this stage, then if there is a problem needing treatment OP has bigger problems down the line.

jellykitkat · 11/12/2024 10:02

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 09:58

@jellykitkat why is everyone brushing over the fact her partner lied to her face? He's using this to manipulate her

Because it’s not that simple, and we don’t know that’s what he’s doing?

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 10:03

@jellykitkat it is. She asked him if the doctor said it was nothing to worry about and he said no. That's a blatant lie.

Soontobe60 · 11/12/2024 10:04

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 11/12/2024 07:59

Oh OP, some of these replies are very harsh! You were worried and did something you normally wouldn't do. How marvelous to know so many mumsnetters are perfect and have never/would never make a mistake.

With regards to some of the kinder posters saying he's focused on the negative and not heard the positive, I'd agree and it's probably understandable (especially if he's a bit dramatic, like my DH).

Give him a pass on this one but if, as some others have said, if he's got form for lying or exaggerating, you may need to address that when this scare is over.

Edited

She was being very dishonest and snooping to find out private information. She may need to address her dishonesty and lack of trust - no way she was sneaking on his phone for reassurance, she was being incredibly nosy.

jellykitkat · 11/12/2024 10:04

LookingForAHandHold · 11/12/2024 10:03

@jellykitkat it is. She asked him if the doctor said it was nothing to worry about and he said no. That's a blatant lie.

Or you could read all the posts on the thread explaining why it’s not that simple.

Please stop tagging me to make the same point over and over.

Apolloneuro · 11/12/2024 10:07

Astrabees · 11/12/2024 09:47

You did nothing wrong in listening to the message, it was in his best interests. I hope it all works out for you both. I’m thinking perhaps prostate problems? The blood test is notoriously unreliable.🌺

How is it in his best interests when she hasn’t even told him she’s listened to it and pointed out the ‘nothing to worry about’ bit?

From what the OP has posted I can see why she felt compelled to listen, but it hasn’t benefited him at all.

FancyAnotherCuppa · 11/12/2024 10:07

Doggymummar · 11/12/2024 07:53

I don't think he is lying, he probably focused on a different part of the message. I had a breast cancer scare in the summer and was asked to go for additional routine tests. I didn't 'hear' routine and focused on having to go to the cancer wing.

My mum last week had similar. Fortunately she’s totally fine, but all she could think about was being on the cancer pathway, going to the cancer wing, etc.

Pleased you’re also ok!

Rosscameasdoody · 11/12/2024 10:07

jellykitkat · 11/12/2024 10:02

Because it’s not that simple, and we don’t know that’s what he’s doing?

Of course we do. He omitted the part about ‘nothing to worry about’ and lied to cover his tracks. OP asked to see the message and he told her it hadn’t been saved. I don’t buy into the theory that he missed that part himself. If he’s so worried, he will have listened to that message more than once trying to gauge the consultant’s mood, so the idea he doesn’t know exactly what was said is nonsense.

whatnow5 · 11/12/2024 10:08

Houdogni · 11/12/2024 09:41

Thank you to everyone who has given supportive and helpful messages. Based on some of the responses, I think maybe he doesn't want to get my hopes up before finding out the full picture. I have found the whole thing quite distressing but don't want to make it about me or my feelings (despite what some posters have said) which is why I have posted on here rather than talking to him about my worries. I want to be strong and supportive for him but I won't apologise for 'making it about me' on here. This is where I can say how I feel without burdening him with my own anxieties. He also doesn't want to discuss it with wider family and friends just yet, which is fine, so I haven't got anyone else to talk to about it.

He has tried to get through to the hospital this morning and they have said that the consultant will be in touch when he's free. He seems very anxious.

Could he have the call on loudspeaker with you beside him?

I’m not suggesting he’s lying at all - I agree with other posters that he has heard the worst. It just might be helpful for that very reason. I know if I’m panicking I can’t listen, so an extra set of ears might be helpful to make sure he gets all the info. It’s also easier if it’s someone a bit further removed. I spoke with all the doctors in hospital about my partners mother as he was panicking and upset and couldn’t really take it in. Things like “there’s a possibility of X” became “it’s absolutely definitely X and she has hours to live”. Your brain just doesn’t work properly under that kind of stress.

Viviennemary · 11/12/2024 10:10

He doesn't want to talk about it and you should respect his wishes. Instead you go snooping in his private messages. Not good.

Rosscameasdoody · 11/12/2024 10:10

Mirabai · 11/12/2024 10:00

This. I don’t think he’s necessarily lying. Just so tied up with anxiety he’s not registering what the doctor is actually saying.

“It’s nothing to worry about” could be interpreted in different ways. It’s not a definitive all clear until he’s been told face to face conclusively benign.

So why did he tell OP he hadn’t saved the message when she asked to listen to it ?

Rachie1973 · 11/12/2024 10:10

Sirzy · 11/12/2024 07:55

The doctor wants to speak to him after a scan. I think even with the “nothing to worry about” comment most people would worry!

going snooping on his phone is the bit that is really wrong

I’d be bricking it. In my mind they always say ‘nothing to worry about’ to relax you but not necessarily true!

You are making it all about you, AND you snooped! Awful behaviour.

Mirabai · 11/12/2024 10:11

He has tried to get through to the hospital this morning and they have said that the consultant will be in touch when he's free. He seems very anxious.

If he’s anxious he’s clearly not faking it. So I think either he didn’t take on board the voicemail or he doesn’t want to get his hopes up until the doctor has formally confirmed.

As he’s not dramatic and in fact quite blasé about his other health condition he’s unlikely to be dramatic on purpose with this one.

PuppiesProzacProsecco · 11/12/2024 10:11

@Soontobe60 do your psychic powers extend to the winning lottery numbers?

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