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To take my 2 year old to work tomorrow?

271 replies

IceCreamMum · 10/12/2024 22:20

I’m a single mum and I don’t have any other choice as the childcare I had arranged for tomorrow has just fallen through now. I don’t know how my boss will react to me just turning up with DD, I can’t ask him as he’s not answering his phone and he won’t see my email until tomorrow morning when it will be too late anyway. I’m a member of senior management (Head of Department at a Zoo) and unfortunately I can’t work from home tomorrow, I have to be on the site tomorrow one way or another due to work commitments. Would I be unreasonable to take DD to work with me tomorrow? I don’t have any other option whatsoever and I also don’t have anyone else that I can ask for childcare this late either.

OP posts:
itsmabeline · 11/12/2024 16:38

@fitzwilliamdarcy I think it's sexism but I don't just think it's sexism about who they think will be better at looking after their baby.

I think it's also sexism about who will be more likely to be criminally dangerous to the child. This is born out by the statistics of males vs females who commit these types of crimes and also why in my opinion the vast majority of people would be much much less likely to hire a male nanny or baby sitter than a female one. It's about reducing the risk to your child, not just who you think will be better at it. Who carries the smaller risk of actively harming your child.

Agree it's incredibly sexist though.

itsmabeline · 11/12/2024 16:39

What did you do in the end OP?

ItGhoul · 11/12/2024 16:46

You 'can't take emergency leave'?

Yes you can. That's what 'emergency' means. If you had to take your child to hospital or a family member had died or your house burnt down, you could take emergency leave. You can therefore take it when you have no other means of caring for your toddler.

Don't take a two-year-old to work with you unless you have permission from your boss first, even if that means only finding out in the morning. Don't just rock up with a toddler. Especially for an important meeting.

SuperfluousHen · 11/12/2024 16:48

What would happen if you had an emergency? Isn’t this an emergency?

GivingitToGod · 11/12/2024 16:57

IceCreamMum · 10/12/2024 22:24

DD is 2. I’m a Head of Department at a Zoo. I can’t work from home tomorrow, I have to be on the site no matter what tomorrow due to work commitments so I don’t think I have any other option but to bring DD with me now unfortunately.

I empathise with your last minute lack of childcare but YABU in expecting to bring your son into work. How can you possibly work with a 2 year old?????
Also, what about insurance etc. It simply won't work.
You can email your boss and explain situation, that's all you can do which is entirely reasonable given the circumstances

GivingitToGod · 11/12/2024 17:03

jamdonutsare · 11/12/2024 07:33

This.

Disagree! What has gone wrong is when people state that they can work and care for their children also. It's not about being intolerant; it's about acknowledging that caring for children is a FT job in itself ( even good ones😁)
My experience of looking after young children ( I am a parent and GP) is that you don't have time for a hot cup of tea, let alone 'Work'. I know of people who WFH with babies/young children without any childcare provision, Come on !
That's a topic for another thread

MyPithyPoster · 11/12/2024 17:11

EmpressOfTheThread · 11/12/2024 16:38

I'm talking about now. It would not be allowed because the opinion is that teachers have to focus on the students, not their baby, plus there are all manner of rules about lessons and classrooms that would preclude this nowadays.
Like I say, a lot changes in 30 years!

Oh it certainly does, DD1 teaches maths to a kid who identifies as a Sheep, i keep suggesting she takes our collie in

EmpressOfTheThread · 11/12/2024 17:28

MyPithyPoster · 11/12/2024 17:11

Oh it certainly does, DD1 teaches maths to a kid who identifies as a Sheep, i keep suggesting she takes our collie in

😂

PicturePlace · 11/12/2024 17:30

IceCreamMum · 11/12/2024 08:02

I’ve managed to find a colleague to look after her during the meeting! I can’t get hold of my boss still though so I’m going to just go in this morning with DD and explain and then ask if he wants me to stay for the whole day or just for the meeting.

And regarding an emergency nanny that people suggested, no way am I leaving my DD with someone I’ve never met for the whole day!

Why not? They are trained childcare professionals, and will be DBS checked. Your colleague will be neither, and is far riskier.

Shessweetbutapsycho · 11/12/2024 17:30

IceCreamMum · 10/12/2024 22:27

Don’t know any emergency Nannies.

DD is in a nursery but I’ve just had a message now to say that they are having to close tomorrow, that’s the childcare that has fallen through. I can’t arrange any other childcare either at this short notice and I have to be in work tomorrow one way or another unfortunately otherwise I would have taken emergency leave but I can’t tomorrow.

Ask one of the nursery workers if they can childmind for you? When mine were at nursery the staff often did as hoc babysitting in the evening

Bridget05 · 11/12/2024 17:58

I thought perfect....put her in with the monkeys, or maybe with the wolves....I hear they raise kids at times. You are being ridiculous.....if I was your boss I would hit the roof.

Scarfitwere · 11/12/2024 18:36

MyrtleStrumpet · 10/12/2024 22:28

This. You are legally entitled to time off for family emergencies. Though it's unpaid.

Can you call in sick?
Can you take a day's leave?
What if you had broken your leg?

My point is that companies cope when people can't work. No one is indispensable.

This. It's the hit by a bus scenario. Work life always goes on with or without you if you're employed. That said only you know how your colleagues/boss will react if you bring your daughter along so you've got to make that judgment call.

Pixiedust88 · 11/12/2024 18:48

Can you call your boss in the morning and say you’re running late because your childcare fell through last minute and ask if you can’t get anyone could you bring her in. Your boss is more likely to be pissed if you just turn up with her rather than if you ask

BettyBardMacDonald · 11/12/2024 20:03

SuperfluousHen · 11/12/2024 16:48

What would happen if you had an emergency? Isn’t this an emergency?

The thing is, it's only an emergency because of lack of preparedness. As an employer, I would expect an employee to have Plan B, C and D in place should Plan A fail.

Kids should be acclimated to a variety of sitters before a problem situation arises.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 11/12/2024 20:16

BettyBardMacDonald · 11/12/2024 20:03

The thing is, it's only an emergency because of lack of preparedness. As an employer, I would expect an employee to have Plan B, C and D in place should Plan A fail.

Kids should be acclimated to a variety of sitters before a problem situation arises.

I'm glad you're not my employer! And I'm glad my director has kids and lives in the real world.

Most of us would be temporarily screwed if our nursery closed down without notice. It happens so seldom that training in a network of backup childminders and babysitters, not to mention getting our child acclimated to options B, C and D, would not be a good use of our limited resources.

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 11/12/2024 20:33

Of course you can't take your child to work.
It's a breach of Health & Safety regs, & I'd expect a zoo to be pretty hot on H& S.
It will also probably invalidate their insurance.

How can you work & look after a 2 yo? You can't so it's extremely unreasonable of you yo take her in.

It will have to be emergency leave

HappyAppleTree · 11/12/2024 20:47

Happiestwhen · 11/12/2024 07:04

Yes it does actually. I've never heard of a nursery randomly closing a day ever. And it should really only close in a life or death situation. So Im intrigued to know what the reason is. All these parents have prepaid (a lot of money) to have their dcs looked after and quite frankly are being left in the lurch.

My guess would be so many staff are ill they can't make their legal ratios. I've heard of parents being turned away at drop off because too many staff members have called in sick that morning

Teateaandmoretea · 11/12/2024 20:53

BettyBardMacDonald · 11/12/2024 20:03

The thing is, it's only an emergency because of lack of preparedness. As an employer, I would expect an employee to have Plan B, C and D in place should Plan A fail.

Kids should be acclimated to a variety of sitters before a problem situation arises.

jeez 🙄

ThistleTits · 11/12/2024 22:42

MasterBeth · 10/12/2024 22:26

It sounds like the First Act of a 70s Disney movie where the kid ends up being raised by monkeys.

😂😂😂

Speckyfourfries · 11/12/2024 23:11

Do a sicky

Workingthroughit · 11/12/2024 23:53

DinosaurMunch · 11/12/2024 09:20

This is the difference between a self motivated professional and a jobs worth employee.

One says "I really need to attend this meeting, how can I make this work"

The other says "I'm entitled to leave"

Obviously there are additional considerations and the child's welfare is paramount. But in this situation of an exceptionally important meeting that can't be rearranged or done from home, and a child that is well, to immediately jump to "computer says no and I will stay home" is not a great mindset to have.

I agree with this. Only the OP knows whether her work environment is a) safe for a small child to be in and b) that the child will be adequately supervised. She had a willing colleague able to watch her daughter for the meeting.

My husband once has to take our then 11 month old to work with him in similar circumstances (I was working abroad for the week and my mum who is our usual back-up was on holiday). He obviously cleared it with his superior, who said he would rather him be in with the baby (who sat happily on his colleague's lap while he sorted a meeting and did not disturb the day) rather than have to rearrange everything. Life happens, and single parents do not have it easy.

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