Mounjaro offending close "friends"

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I have bitten the bullet and started using Mounjaro. I pay for it privately through a reputable private clinic , and in a nutshell its been incredible.

Long story as short as poss.... I'm a well built 5ft7 woman who has been anything from 10st to 13.7st over years , ideal weight 11st happy and feel good, have gone into perimenopause , started HRT and basically CANNOT shift stubborn 2st. I told my GP my plans and he agreed as BMI verging on obese (13st4) .....decision was 6 months in making with a LOT of research before starting it ....anyway ....

I have lost my first half stone ( in 10 days ) and with close friends at the weekend told them i was on the injection and how great i feel ( not just food noise but ADHD symptoms better too ) my friends were so happy for me bar one who could not hide her disgust. This person has a stunning figure, always been a petite size 8, always attracted a lot of male attention, and has been known to be quite fattest over the years to anyone chubby. She basically said it was cheating, said i would be fatter long term and i know that behind my back is slagging me off ..
I've always been confident despite my different weights but i did get a lot of compliments especially from other husbands of how well i looked , and it seemed to REALLY annoy her she has stopped messaging me as much and has declined Xmas invites for drinks at mine.
Its got me thinking that this injection is a real shift long term for men and women , but psychologically its maybe pissing off people that don't struggle????
Another friend was shocked i even told people but im not that sort of person , I'm an open book and chatty and don't see the point ? maybe i should have just kept my mouth shut ? AIBU to feel shocked and disappointed by this ?

Take no effing notice of them op.
I lost 12lbs with Salmonella poisoning 20 years ago.
6 days in hospital on a drip. On morphine for the pain.
Intestines ripped themselves to bits, 3 months of bowel problems afterwards.
I had 1 " friend " who accused me of getting it deliberately, just to loose weight.
Like your friend she was naturally thin.
Some people are just gobshites 🤷‍♀️

Like I said upthread, it's an analogy that is deeply wrong, incredibly misinformed and wildly offensive. I'm so sad to see it repeated on the thread again, it's very depressing to realise how many people feel this way and have never exercised a shred of empathy or understanding but are so quick to cast judgement.

But the people who are eligible are going to be more obese and have higher health risks than you. If you’re that jealous stop working out and eat what you want and then you too get to buy an expensive injection which will suppress your appetite to make you lose weight. No one’s stopping you. But obviously that would be ridiculous because you’re managing it yourself already, whereas people who haven’t been able to do it on their own are using something that enables them to stick to a healthy eating diet. So just concentrate on yourself you don’t need to be envious of obese people losing weight because you think they’ve not it easy

One of the food 'noise' problems is worrying subconsciously that there won't be 'enough'.

DD (5 stone down on mounjaro) and I (just started) were discussing this. We both had a similar emotion around ordering food. Ordering the big meal rather than the smaller but tastier meal.

Having just started mounjaro one of the revelations has been being able to leave food without feeling guilty or hard done by.

Well, my very good friend was pre-diabetic before losing three stone on Mounjaro. He no longer is, and it won’t cost the NHS a penny.

Are you sure you’re not thinking of GLP-1 agonist shortages? Mounjaro is being offered as an alternative to those.

I didn't say they had it easy. I said I understood it was a LIFE SAVER for those folks who needed it. So I do get how important it is.
I'm also not managing to maintain or lose weight. I'm putting it on. I'm trying hard to not put top much on. But thanks for your compassionate response

That’s the thing. The side effects aren’t known and who knows when/if it will occur. I did remember reading a thread that was trending at the time about a woman who lost her curves along with the excess fat so her hips and bum were quite flat. I didn’t realise the topic was something like weight-loss treatments and so wasn’t actively searching for it, but that image did stay with me for a long while and did put me off from considering the weight-loss injections because I do want to lose the extra 2 stones but I’d rather still have some curves.

I have pcos and have had cystic ovaries for years. Had to have a scan today and got the first time ever my ovaries looked normal! I am pretty sure monjarno is what’s made the difference! I don’t get the sugar cravings any more and my blood sugar seems much more stable.
these injections are treating health issues, it’s so weird people see it as cheating!

@GnomeDePlume I think in BIL's case, it's also because he has a complicated relationship with food so he resists and resists, and then is so hungry when we sit down to order that he can't help himself and, as you say, he's terrified it won't be enough.

A bit like if I go shopping when I'm hungry - disaster!!!

I have quite often watched him ordering the "low calorie" option eg a salad or something, only to add a pile of extras which he seems to be completely oblivious too. But, like I said, I was oblivious to how much I was actually snacking so I get it - our brains are a bit messed up and, if I understand it correctnly, that's what these injections really help us to manage.

That’s a strange mindset, why should people have to make themselves miserable to be slim/attractive/fertile/mentally fit etc, delete as appropriate. I’m sure if there was a little magic pill for most ‘issues’ people would snap it up. It’s not cheating.

So if you understand it's a life saver then you should see how comparing it to being gifted a house deposit is completely absurd and offensive then?

The increased understanding of weight gain and obesity that these drugs are creating could benefit people like you who are struggling to control their weight. Researchers are now figuring out the way that hormones are acting in the body to drive weight gain, and they're able to regulate that in obese patients. It may be that this research comes to help people not in the obese category in time. We all know that 'eat less move more' is not an effective solution in people's lives, so the more understanding of why that is, the better. No one is saying you have it easy, but please understand that those on the injections also do not have it easy and it is not the same as being handed a wad of unearned cash.

It doesn’t sound like you have much compassion for people who are resorting to using weight loss medication because the analogy you agree with suggests that they’ve unfairly without any work lost weight in comparison to someone who ‘works hard’ to stay thin. Everyone has their own struggles you don’t need to compare yourself as you are not in the same situation

Ah interesting..
Being slim is her USP then.
She's now worried that once you reach a similar size, you will be her direct competition 😁
She probably already sees you as being more attractive..but too large to have worried about up to now.
Brilliant, that would spur me on even more OP. 😈

I also can't help wondering if there's a gendered aspect to this. Broadly speaking, I'd say more men are worried about their weight and/or significantly overweight than men. There does seem to be a thing that when something is specifically designed for women, or used more by women, there is always more backlash and tongue clicking.

Ah I see. So UK doctors don’t prescribe it at all for weight loss? (I think US doctors do)

Irrespective of whether the private clinics can lose their licences I know it’s very common - happens all the time.

There was a documentary I saw on YouTube recently (possibly produced by Channel 4) where someone went undercover and was prescribed it from most clinics she went to for weight loss. She had a BMI of less than 30. I’ve heard similar from other sources too, including MN posters.

There is so much bullshit here and it would take forever to address it - with no impact. You. Can't. Argue. With. Stupid.
Now on important matters! Who is in charge of the bingo card??? @tresales has my favourite addition! People on jabs are not toned. I would show you my abs but I can't be arsed. I'm more toned than most of my gym friends (yes I work out 😱) - and that is after 3 major abdominal surgeries! Well done though. Your post wins the race for stupidity. You should be proud.

Why would you be disappointed if your husband didn’t compliment your friend? Does that mean you’d get disappointed if your friend’s husband didn’t compliment you? It’s odd that you expect your husband to compliment your friend. As for your last sentence, it made me feel sick 🤮

Holy shit your friend sounds horrible. Losing weight is not some kind of competition. Regardless of peoples thoughts on how someone does it, surely no one would be angry at a friends successful drop in weight.

It's definitely gendered @OhBling - it's in the interests of the patriarchy to keep women hungry, self critical and set against one another. A world where women are constantly trying to make themselves smaller and in a battle with their own bodies is a misogynistic one - so I'm heartened by the increase in weightlifting for women and a desire to be strong and powerful emerging. It's still problematic and creates pressure in other ways and to some extent swaps one problem for another (a new unrealistic body ideal has been created) but I think it's an improvement on the 90s when we were cardio-ing and starving ourselves down to heroin chic.

That’s nonsense. I’ve quite a serious home gym and have always exercised. I gained weight and it slowed down. Now I’m losing again, and exercise five days a week. My muscle mass is considered excellent on both the main gym scales my own ones.

making silly blanket statements doesn’t lend you credibility.

Please don’t blame men for women’s short comings. If women attack each others compete against each other, that’s on women. Not men, men are not responsible for what we do. We are not fools who are led.

You say she doesnt struggle.. do you know this?
Im 8 stone usually, always been. But its hard work! I run an hour a day min, do other workouts and I watch what i eat like crazy.
During my 2 pregnancies I went up to almost 13 stone. It was so hard to lose the weight. It took me 3 years to get back down to 8st and i was literally hungry every day.

I can sort of understand she might feel like the injections are giving people the easy way out, however its not ok for her to get this upset over it. If she was a true friend she would be happy for you and supportive.

You should ignore her and enjoy that its working so well for you!

Honestly you’re thinking on that too much. Really. None of us are after our friends husbands, none of us are acting for the male gaze. Simply we all treat each other as equal.

I was criticising the patriarchy, not men specifically. There are plenty of women perpetuating patriarchal standards. Internalised misogyny is real and powerful.

@Onceachunkymonkey I think you and I are saying the same thing. It was the other poster who said people on injections aren't toned and don't exercise. I'm on the jabs as well, and like you, I exercise a lot!