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To cancel Christmas unless I'm given a present?

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Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 16:41

It's a long one! I've name changed.

Backstory ~

Abusive upbringing. I'm the oldest sibling and always kind of looked after everyone, including parents who both have mental health issues. Parents, and 2 siblings (DSis1 and DB) have never worked and claimed benefits. 1 sibling (DSis2) is on minimum wage. I've worked my way up and am on a nice salary well into 6 figures.

Christmas was shit growing up, no money and lots of manipulation and drama. When I moved out I started hosting everyone and trying to recreate those amazing Christmases in movies. Lots of food, tree heaving with gifts, overflowing stockings. Family always seem happy and have a ball, though there are always digs about my salary and how I could do more - I cave and each year it gets bigger and better. No one contributes at all (I haven't asked, they haven't offered).

Family are shit with my feelings or acknowledging birthdays etc. I'm aware money is ridiculously tight for them all, however I'm talking completely ignored my graduation (first one in my family), I didn't even get a text/card for my 30th. I go all out for them, and have always 'forgiven' anything hurtful based on the fact we've been through a lot and I want to treat them and put effort into having relationships. I also feel guilty that I'm financially secure, and they are not - they don't want budgeting advice etc (fair enough!) but I do help them out with money fairly often.

The issue, or more like the straw that broke this camels back:

Every year I buy loads of gifts for under the tree - everything anyone asks for, plus lots I research and find that I think they'll like - my point is, it's not just money I'm throwing at it! Everyone also buys each other one small gift, a token really. Something like a box of chocolates. I love those moments of opening gifts together, although I have far less than the others! But it's so much fun and I work so hard to try and get things everyone will love.

This year, DB has announced in the family WhatsApp that we're doing Secret Santa for the adults in the family, so we don't have to buy gifts for each other. He (and everyone) knows I'm done with my shopping and everything they've asked me for is wrapped and under the tree already. He's included an uncle I have never met - pretty sure he has me because this weekend my gift arrived in an unmarked Amazon box (so took me a good few days to figure out who had sent me a bottle of whiskey - I don't drink).

I was really hurt, by that and by the fact I won't have any gifts under the tree (I've brought for myself before and family laugh at me, I've also unwrapped gifts friends have given me, and again got made fun of because they were expensive). I talked to my best friend and decided to have conversations with the family. I spoke to all of them, one by one, and explained honestly I was disappointed because I like something to open, and would love if we could exchange gifts as I've bought for them already. I highlighted I'd be happy with something small - just a token gift. Broadly speaking the response I got was : you're being ridiculous, adults don't need gifts, we're broke and you can afford anything you want! Along with lots of hurtful digs and mean comments.

I'm now fuming and want to cancel everything and never see anyone again. I feel like they take advantage of my generosity (which I know they do!) however this cements the fact in my mind that they don't actually care about me or my feelings at all. I understand times are tough, I try and be as supportive as I can be - but am I crazy to think if you're being hosted for a week, having hundreds of pounds worth of gifts bought for you (that you've asked for! Including practical things you need and would have to buy for yourself if I didn't!), that you can afford a cheap £5 box of chocolates to humour your daughter/sister?

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4 weeks is short notice for suggesting secret Santa. Especially when the family knew OP would be buying gifts and they had all hinted at what they would like.

Id finished my Christmas shopping by early October, it would be too late to return things at the start of December when he suggested this.

AngelontopoftheTree · 10/12/2024 09:06

Just wanted to say... I think you're amazing@Grinch123 👏 👏
You've handled this so well, but I don't doubt that feelings of guilt etc... could rear their ugly heads over Christmas - if you need to, please come back to this thread to remind you of why you've broken ranks. Also, remember there is another WhatsApp group that you're not on & you don't want to know what it says!!

CaveMum · 10/12/2024 09:06

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OP has already said that she has multiple missed calls and messages from overnight that she has not replied to. Plus her sister confirmed the existence of another WhatsApp group that she is not part of. They’re likely bitching and plotting on there.

NarnianQueen · 10/12/2024 09:07

Tempted to put all the big things up for free on a local FB page I know the family is on, but that may be TOO nuclear!

It would be absolutely hilarious though... 😆

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CaveMum · 10/12/2024 09:09

And if the Secret Santa suggestion was an attempt to calm things down on the present front, why did OPs sister turn up at her door begging her to reconsider?

courageandwisdom · 10/12/2024 09:10

@Grinch123 Just seen your updates. So pleased you've booked to go away. I hope you have a great time and build lots of new special memories.
I understand being a people pleaser, especially where family is concerned and would suggest some therapy when you get back. It helped me a lot, and allowed me to put boundaries in place.

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PinkTonic · 10/12/2024 09:04

I was just going to post exactly this.

This would make sense, but for the fact that OP's now said she can't do Christmas and her family have gone batshit. Rolling out the emotional blackmail, sister legging it round last night to sob about being left out and abandoned and so on.

If her family were genuinely feeling that OP rubbed their faces in her financial security, then you'd think they'd be grateful that she's called off hosting, no? And if they felt that OP was "flaunting" her good fortune, then it sounds as if they were perfectly capable of using their words and telling her. After all, these are people that sat and laughed at the fact they bought her and her DD nothing - so hardly shy and retiring types who were worried about causing offence.

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CharlotteLightandDark · 10/12/2024 09:13

I’ve also dropped toys and things round to a women’s refuge, you can find the phone numbers online just not the address.

I’d have demanded to look at the other WhatsApp group but it’s probably best you didn’t as sounds hurtful 😥

i hope you have a wonderful trip x

Plastictrees · 10/12/2024 09:13

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Because it WAS broke, OP just realised it and had insight into this and decided to change. It can be incredibly difficult to break these patterns, especially when rooted in childhood trauma - OP just wanted to create something she never had. It would be hard for her to realise that actually this won’t work and she is being taken advantage of here. She is brave to stop this freeloading nonsense at Christmas and focus on her and her daughter instead. It could be the catalyst of change in her family dynamic, even if not it’s wise for the OP to have boundaries.

Apolloneuro · 10/12/2024 09:13

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Wants her presence or wants her presents? (That she’d have known were already purchased)

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SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 10/12/2024 09:15

I'm sorry OP, but your family are treating you as if you're a lottery winner who should share your good fortune. Presumably you work hard for your money, so wtf are you giving it away ?

People who haven't worked a day in their lives expecting expensive designer gear? Absolute pisstakers.

Get your pension pot topped up and see how long any of them stay in touch when you aren't Miss Bountiful.

You deserve better than this x

SalsaLights · 10/12/2024 09:15

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...because they want OP to host Christmas - which they pay nothing for, and contribute nothing towards. And notice how OP's sister, when told "no" tried to invite herself on OP's holiday?

Actions speak louder than words. They have their own family chat, where in the sister's own words, OP wouldn't like what was on there. They can't even be bothered to buy OP's daughter a toy for Christmas. The fightback now is her grasping family trying their level best to hang on to their freebie Christmas, and telling OP what they think she wants to hear to keep her sweet.

If they genuinely cared about OP why wouldn't there be an honest and heartfelt apology? From all of them.

Plastictrees · 10/12/2024 09:15

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Time will tell I suppose. I hope OP has a wonderful Christmas holiday!

Apolloneuro · 10/12/2024 09:16

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So why didn’t they say “Don’t buy us generous presents this year. We just enjoy getting together.” weeks ago?

SalsaLights · 10/12/2024 09:17

OP - I am so pleased you have booked a holiday. I hope you have a wonderful time with your DD. And for future Christmases, you can still enjoy the planning and prep, but by spending Christmas with your friends who value you for the generous and considerate person that you are. Christmas next year in Aus?

ilovesushi · 10/12/2024 09:18

This is very much your Christmas, run along your lines and funded with your money. It is the Christmas you want now and the one you wished you had had as a child. It is a fantasy Christmas and you want your family to play their parts of the loving brother/ sister/ aunt etc. But it is all on your terms. It is lovely and generous, but its yours not theirs. Secret Santa is not a bad idea, and is more affordable and fun if money is tight. It is thoughtless to spring it now but it sounds a more equitable way of giving presents. At the moment it's a bit like you are the bountiful lady of the manor and they are the serfs. The bigger you go with your Christmas celebration the more you are flinging the difference in circumstances in their faces. They may well be struggling to pay bills. Calm it with the big gifts and the show and try to enjoy each other's company.

anxioussister · 10/12/2024 09:18

Nothing useful to add - apart from I am SO invested in you having a lovely lovely, relaxed Christmas with your DD - and creating your own traditions / magic that don’t involve around pandering to your feckless family!

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 10/12/2024 09:18

@Grinch123 I would also get cctv by some company like verizon and have all sent to your mobile, even people just coming to your door. wouldnt put it past them to come to your house and expect to be allowed in individually to collect their present which they pre ordered! they might even come with sister and her door key!!!! it wont even dawn on them that you will be giving all gifts away! so cctv and lockchange! back door too if you have one, just in case! your wee lass is going to have a ball at disney!! making real memories!

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 10/12/2024 09:19

I think the fact they have an extra WhatsApp group is truly, truly horrible.

Randommother · 10/12/2024 09:19

Merry Christmas @Grinch123, hope you have a wonderful, well deserved, holiday and make some fantastic new Christmas memories with your child 🎄

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