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To cancel Christmas unless I'm given a present?

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Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 16:41

It's a long one! I've name changed.

Backstory ~

Abusive upbringing. I'm the oldest sibling and always kind of looked after everyone, including parents who both have mental health issues. Parents, and 2 siblings (DSis1 and DB) have never worked and claimed benefits. 1 sibling (DSis2) is on minimum wage. I've worked my way up and am on a nice salary well into 6 figures.

Christmas was shit growing up, no money and lots of manipulation and drama. When I moved out I started hosting everyone and trying to recreate those amazing Christmases in movies. Lots of food, tree heaving with gifts, overflowing stockings. Family always seem happy and have a ball, though there are always digs about my salary and how I could do more - I cave and each year it gets bigger and better. No one contributes at all (I haven't asked, they haven't offered).

Family are shit with my feelings or acknowledging birthdays etc. I'm aware money is ridiculously tight for them all, however I'm talking completely ignored my graduation (first one in my family), I didn't even get a text/card for my 30th. I go all out for them, and have always 'forgiven' anything hurtful based on the fact we've been through a lot and I want to treat them and put effort into having relationships. I also feel guilty that I'm financially secure, and they are not - they don't want budgeting advice etc (fair enough!) but I do help them out with money fairly often.

The issue, or more like the straw that broke this camels back:

Every year I buy loads of gifts for under the tree - everything anyone asks for, plus lots I research and find that I think they'll like - my point is, it's not just money I'm throwing at it! Everyone also buys each other one small gift, a token really. Something like a box of chocolates. I love those moments of opening gifts together, although I have far less than the others! But it's so much fun and I work so hard to try and get things everyone will love.

This year, DB has announced in the family WhatsApp that we're doing Secret Santa for the adults in the family, so we don't have to buy gifts for each other. He (and everyone) knows I'm done with my shopping and everything they've asked me for is wrapped and under the tree already. He's included an uncle I have never met - pretty sure he has me because this weekend my gift arrived in an unmarked Amazon box (so took me a good few days to figure out who had sent me a bottle of whiskey - I don't drink).

I was really hurt, by that and by the fact I won't have any gifts under the tree (I've brought for myself before and family laugh at me, I've also unwrapped gifts friends have given me, and again got made fun of because they were expensive). I talked to my best friend and decided to have conversations with the family. I spoke to all of them, one by one, and explained honestly I was disappointed because I like something to open, and would love if we could exchange gifts as I've bought for them already. I highlighted I'd be happy with something small - just a token gift. Broadly speaking the response I got was : you're being ridiculous, adults don't need gifts, we're broke and you can afford anything you want! Along with lots of hurtful digs and mean comments.

I'm now fuming and want to cancel everything and never see anyone again. I feel like they take advantage of my generosity (which I know they do!) however this cements the fact in my mind that they don't actually care about me or my feelings at all. I understand times are tough, I try and be as supportive as I can be - but am I crazy to think if you're being hosted for a week, having hundreds of pounds worth of gifts bought for you (that you've asked for! Including practical things you need and would have to buy for yourself if I didn't!), that you can afford a cheap £5 box of chocolates to humour your daughter/sister?

OP posts:
Londonrach1 · 10/12/2024 07:45

Well done op. You so amazing and strong! I hope you and dd have amazing Christmas x

PinkPolkadotFlamingo · 10/12/2024 07:47

OP, I agree with everyone who says to change the locks. Lock changing is really easy. If you call a locksmith, once they arrive, they'll be able to do it for you in less than an hour.

Isthiscorrect · 10/12/2024 07:48

@Grinch123 Please do come back and assure us you have changed the locks. You done amazingly well with holding your own against all these dreadful CF's. DD's trip will be so magical. Have a wonderful Christmas with your DD. Do think about Lapland for a week next year. That really is magical. Igloos. Santa by yourselves with your DD's letter and the gift she asked for. There are no words for how magical that is.

DowntonNabby · 10/12/2024 07:49

cheddercherry · 10/12/2024 07:43

Such a shame even now their messages are self centred, again they miss all you DO for them, but not actually you? And it’s so much bigger than Christmas for you, it’s your relationships all the time that they don’t seem to be grasping beyond “their” Christmas. I totally missed that they don’t even get your daughter a gift either! You’ve been brilliant @Grinch123 have an epic time with your daughter, she deserves to see her mum happy over Christmas!

This. ^

All their messages are about what you do for them and how you not doing it is going to ruin Xmas – not a word about them missing you and your DD if you're not there to celebrate with them. They really don't give a shit about you as a person, they just see you as a walking bank account they happen to be related to.

Enjoy being Santa this morning as you re-distribute the presents @Grinch123!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 10/12/2024 07:49

Grinch123 · 10/12/2024 07:35

Thanks all for the ESTA reminder! We both have them from previous visits - they're up to date, as are our passports. Nothings getting in the way of this trip 🤩

Lots of individual WhatsApps came through overnight - I've ignored them so far. None of it is outright asking for the gifts (not my families MO) ~ it's more about how can I abandon them when I'm the one who makes Christmas special, I'm selfish to not want to celebrate with them, ruining Christmas etc etc. They'll do anything that 'makes me feel better' if I stay and make Christmas magic the way they know I love doing. I'm thinking I'll reply later on saying I need to get a bit of space but look forward to catching up when I'm back.

Looking forward to dropping off at the Foodbank this morning! I think a women's refuge is a better idea then a charity shop for the clothing/Lego - thanks to those upthread who suggested it, I'll do some googling. The Lego is an adult set related to some movies I don't like, so definitely giving it away!

Is it Harry Potter?

PJsAndCosySocks · 10/12/2024 07:49

Please get your locks changed today. It's unnerving that your awful family have easy access to your home and you've now announced to them that you're going away. I just wouldn't trust them at all.

Their cheeky fuckery is astounding. The absolute brass balls to ask for so many astonishingly expensive gifts had my eyes popping out of my head. If they want expensive items, they need to work and earn them. You're not an anomaly; you are proof of what hard work and determination can achieve (huge props to you btw) and they should be looking to follow your example. I was so sad to read they couldn't even be arsed to send you a congratulations text on completing your degree or a happy birthday one for your 30th. Cruel, jealous, selfish arseholes. Nothing good can come from keeping these people in your life. They pull you down and diminish your light.

You have done a brilliant thing by cancelling. You can focus all your future Christmas energy into your daughter and creating magical Christmases with just her. Have a really lovely time away with her and I hope your 2025 is your chance to make a new life with just her and the people who value you and your good heart.

MJconfessions · 10/12/2024 07:49

The only thing I’d say is make a reminder to change the locks before you go away. You sister will let herself/all of them into your home otherwise

Grinch123 · 10/12/2024 07:50

ObsidianTree · 10/12/2024 07:35

Well done op. Must have been hard holding your nerves.

Your family treat you unfairly and hope this is the wake up call they need to start treating you better. I suspect that they are all super jealous of you and don't want you to experience any joy at Christmas. Sitting and laughing at you while you open presents is horrible and you've been a saint to put up with it so long.

Enjoy Disney and a cruise. Treat yourself to loads of Disney merch! Don't think about getting them any presents!

Is there any children in the family other than your daughter?

I agree about changing the locks. Dont want them coming and taking the presents!

Also, I also agree with another poster that it's a shame to give it to a charity shop so some luckily person could buy it all cheap! The Lego set is worth so much, if you returned it you could buy so many smaller cost Lego sets and give them to a food bank type place to give to children/families in need. Maybe it's something to think about to keep you busy and not thinking about your family etc?

You could keep the cinema pass and enjoy going cinema with your daughter?

Thanks!

Will definitely be buying lots of merch, to me (and DD..) from me.

DB has a son who we don't see (it's complicated) but I always send a few nice gifts, which I've already sent from this year. Absolutely not becoming the aunt who stops sending you things/being involved because of a family argument!

Yes I'm dubious about the charity shop - also don't really want to hand it over to a school etc to be raffled off. Someone upthread mentioned a refuge and I think I'll try that - I've been the broke person with nothing before and having 1 nice designer item would've meant the world I think. Also hoping they'll give the Lego to someone who needs a distraction as I bought it months ago on sale so can't return!

OP posts:
Grinch123 · 10/12/2024 07:50

MJconfessions · 10/12/2024 07:49

The only thing I’d say is make a reminder to change the locks before you go away. You sister will let herself/all of them into your home otherwise

On my list of admin today 💪

OP posts:
Lemon1111 · 10/12/2024 07:50

You were one of the first things I thought about this morning.

I’ve just read your update, never been more proud of a stranger, it’s easy for strangers to type ‘don't give in to them’ but to have someone show up at your door pulling on your heartstrings and you still have resolve, well that’s another.

If you were my family I would be so appreciative of all the little and big things you do. I’m the same, I love each Christmas to have special bits like the new M&S whatever and I love doing little personalised things for my family, ie hand crafted personalised table gifts. Difference is this is mostly appreciated. This year I have a 9month year old so won’t be doing as much, but I won’t have any gripes about not doing something.

You sound like a lovely person and I wish you and your daughter the best Christmas! You are going to look back on this in years to come and say to her ‘do you remember the Christmas we booked Disney last minute?’ It’s going to be a lot more memorable than when you spent £100+ on designer perfume for un-grateful family.

Update us with how your lovely Christmas went you are going to have a magical time xxx

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 10/12/2024 07:50

Grinch123 · 10/12/2024 01:52

Thanks all, I know it's late just updating for those pitchfork wielding people who were worried!

DSis arrived (I opened the door because she has a key and would've let herself in anyway - I know, I probably need to change the locks) and pulled out all the stops - lots of tears, lots of 'it doesn't matter about the presents, we just want to be together' (I know this wouldn't hold up). I almost caved - I'm sure this is why she turned up and not anyone else, because we've always had a stronger bond. But then I asked her how she and family were discussing this if not on the family group, she got a bit shady and then admitted there was another group chat, but I wouldn't want to see what was on there. That helped rebuild my 'do not give a fuck'eryness. She then cried about not wanting to spend time with family and tried to invite herself along with us on our festive trip 😂 I said no.

After she left I unwrapped everything I'd bought for them, sorted it and it's ready to be dropped off at the correct places tomorrow so I can't change my mind! Individually printed all the tickets (light show and Panto), and will give them, all the Christmas food I've already bought + stockings filled with bits to our food bank to distribute ~ they're fab, and I have a friend who volunteers there who agreed they'd love those things and won't let anything go to waste. Coat/Uggs and Lego are headed to the charity shop.

And I've booked Disney! Never planned a holiday less in my life 😂 A week in Florida, followed by a short cruise from there over NY to the Caribbean ~ best of both (Disney) worlds hehe. Thanks for all the recommendations - I love travelling with DD and am generally a very responsible and a good judge of character. I clearly have a massive blind spot when it comes to family, but no more 😬

Thanks again for all the suggestions/comments/having my back moments. I don't think I would've gone through with it had I not had all these comments to bolster my confidence!

So happy for you! Well done!

do remember to change your locks before you go away. I wouldn’t put it past them to have Christmas at your house anyway 🫣

DowntonNabby · 10/12/2024 07:50

@Grinch123 Plus you definitely need to change your locks before you go away – if you're not there, what's the betting they'll all descend on yours anyway for Christmas?!

SensibleSigma · 10/12/2024 07:51

Do you know what, your first responsibility is to care for your DD. She has no one else.

She needs to learn she is important at Christmas, and to see you modelling boundaries that reflect your importance as well as hers.

Christmas should be focused on you and her, not an extended network of related freeloaders. I’m really shocked that they managed to overlook your child in all this.

Shinyandnew1 · 10/12/2024 07:53

Grinch123 · 10/12/2024 07:50

On my list of admin today 💪

I’d get a camera and alarm as well-sadly they sound the sort who would break in and try to claim squatters rights.

atesomanybananas · 10/12/2024 07:54

@Grinch123 I’m applauding you from afar. I bet the ‘secret’ WhatsApp group was fit to explode last night. Have the most amazing holiday … you truly deserve it.

CatherinedeBourgh · 10/12/2024 07:55

'make Christmas magic' - you are, for your dd and for all the grateful recipients of the gifts you are donating.

Boundaries are really good for keeping unhealthy family relationships in line. I predict your family will become much more appreciative of whatever you still choose to do for them in future. Keep it proportional, though, and remember your responsibility to model to your daughter the way you would want her to be treated.

ChicBee · 10/12/2024 07:55

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PandaChopChop · 10/12/2024 07:56

Well done OP!!!! NOTHING can stop you now! Have a fantastic holiday and treat yourself to some therapy when you come home xx

Silvertulips · 10/12/2024 07:57

Changed locks is easy - just a screwdriver and new barrel.

How are you feeling now? Has this made you feel happy and excited? I really hope you have the best time. I love Disney and I’ve never watched the movies!!!

SpryCat · 10/12/2024 07:58

I just want you to know you are such a wonderful woman, you have worked so hard to get a great career whilst selflessly going above and beyond caring for your parents and siblings. They can’t be bothered to go to your graduation because it’s not about them! You have actually put you and your daughter’s needs first instead of treating people like kings and receiving disdain and resentment back. This new chapter in your life is about you and your daughter creating the most stable and loving little family, to be able to shine, be seen and heard. To not allowing you and your daughter to be punished for your achievements and to allow your daughter the freedom of a toxic childhood so she knows her worth x

Grinch123 · 10/12/2024 07:59

@ChicBee oh absolutely not, I'm not naive enough to think that 😂 I'm dropping most bits at a food bank, and we have a local charity that works closely with a few refuges (I think!) so will give them a call later this morning and see if they're interested/can pass anything on. They have an office as well so I can hopefully drop them there if they want them!

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Cavello · 10/12/2024 07:59

Just seen this post and read through the OP's posts. Wowzers! They are truly awful, huge well done OP for putting them back in their box. How dare they!! And another family WhatsApp, what on earth! They don't deserve you and your generosity. Cheering you on and hope you and your DD have a wonderful Christmas 🎄

MissLeToe · 10/12/2024 08:04

Not sure what I can add that isn't a repeat but what came into my head was 'Money can't buy you love'- the song by the Beatles.

That's what you've been trying to do.

I understand your generosity but it's at odds with how you speak about your family - especially your under achieving siblings.

Sadly they don't appreciate you and this is a one-sided relationship.
To be really honest, the writing was on the wall a long time ago.
Putting space between you is the only answer.
You deserve better.

I also suggest you consider therapy to come to term with the family dynamics.

Alwayslurkingsometimesposting · 10/12/2024 08:07

What an amazing update OP. Well done you. How hurtful about their other whatsapp group 😢 how are you feeling? There will probably be a lot of sadness to process when the adrenaline wears off. Sending hugs.

Lemonadeand · 10/12/2024 08:10

I hope you and your daughter have a really lovely time. Well done for being the circuit breaker in a toxic cycle. She is so lucky to have you.

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