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To cancel Christmas unless I'm given a present?

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Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 16:41

It's a long one! I've name changed.

Backstory ~

Abusive upbringing. I'm the oldest sibling and always kind of looked after everyone, including parents who both have mental health issues. Parents, and 2 siblings (DSis1 and DB) have never worked and claimed benefits. 1 sibling (DSis2) is on minimum wage. I've worked my way up and am on a nice salary well into 6 figures.

Christmas was shit growing up, no money and lots of manipulation and drama. When I moved out I started hosting everyone and trying to recreate those amazing Christmases in movies. Lots of food, tree heaving with gifts, overflowing stockings. Family always seem happy and have a ball, though there are always digs about my salary and how I could do more - I cave and each year it gets bigger and better. No one contributes at all (I haven't asked, they haven't offered).

Family are shit with my feelings or acknowledging birthdays etc. I'm aware money is ridiculously tight for them all, however I'm talking completely ignored my graduation (first one in my family), I didn't even get a text/card for my 30th. I go all out for them, and have always 'forgiven' anything hurtful based on the fact we've been through a lot and I want to treat them and put effort into having relationships. I also feel guilty that I'm financially secure, and they are not - they don't want budgeting advice etc (fair enough!) but I do help them out with money fairly often.

The issue, or more like the straw that broke this camels back:

Every year I buy loads of gifts for under the tree - everything anyone asks for, plus lots I research and find that I think they'll like - my point is, it's not just money I'm throwing at it! Everyone also buys each other one small gift, a token really. Something like a box of chocolates. I love those moments of opening gifts together, although I have far less than the others! But it's so much fun and I work so hard to try and get things everyone will love.

This year, DB has announced in the family WhatsApp that we're doing Secret Santa for the adults in the family, so we don't have to buy gifts for each other. He (and everyone) knows I'm done with my shopping and everything they've asked me for is wrapped and under the tree already. He's included an uncle I have never met - pretty sure he has me because this weekend my gift arrived in an unmarked Amazon box (so took me a good few days to figure out who had sent me a bottle of whiskey - I don't drink).

I was really hurt, by that and by the fact I won't have any gifts under the tree (I've brought for myself before and family laugh at me, I've also unwrapped gifts friends have given me, and again got made fun of because they were expensive). I talked to my best friend and decided to have conversations with the family. I spoke to all of them, one by one, and explained honestly I was disappointed because I like something to open, and would love if we could exchange gifts as I've bought for them already. I highlighted I'd be happy with something small - just a token gift. Broadly speaking the response I got was : you're being ridiculous, adults don't need gifts, we're broke and you can afford anything you want! Along with lots of hurtful digs and mean comments.

I'm now fuming and want to cancel everything and never see anyone again. I feel like they take advantage of my generosity (which I know they do!) however this cements the fact in my mind that they don't actually care about me or my feelings at all. I understand times are tough, I try and be as supportive as I can be - but am I crazy to think if you're being hosted for a week, having hundreds of pounds worth of gifts bought for you (that you've asked for! Including practical things you need and would have to buy for yourself if I didn't!), that you can afford a cheap £5 box of chocolates to humour your daughter/sister?

OP posts:
AcrossthePond55 · 09/12/2024 20:57

@Grinch123 I just want to say that you are MAGNIFICENT! You have 'seen the truth and the truth has set you free'.

Since you've gone 'nuclear' I think that should include loans and the borrowing of items. You don't get repaid, you don't get your items back so why do that to yourself?

Listen, you're probably going to get a 'nuclear reaction' up to and including some or all them going NC. It's no loss to you to lose people who don't value you. And IMHO I think at some point in the future you probably would have ended up getting fed up and going NC with some or all of them.

Good luck, Merry Christmas, and enjoy your sunny holiday!

PS Hawaii is wonderful in December and a Hawaiian Xmas is loads of fun although I know it's about twice the distance as the UK to the Caribbean. Mele Kalikimaka!

ChocolateAddictAlways · 09/12/2024 20:57

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 16:50

This has made me laugh whilst I sit here crying and snotty, thank you 😂

OP they sound awful, I’m sorry to say, but you sound like a lovely, kind and compassionate person.

I think you should cut them loose if only temporarily and hopefully they’ll realise what they had when it’s gone. I hope you have a strong friendship network to support you and get you through the holiday period.

whengodwasarabbit1 · 09/12/2024 20:57

Hello, jist wanted to say a huge well done. Im a single mum too, with no family close by and I promise you that with practice you will grow to love your quiet little Christmases together, walks and love and being together and please make sure you get yourself some gifts. I really struggle for money but I always send my family thoughtful little gifts. Little bundles like their fave book, some socks and a candle. It doesn't have to be expensive to say you care. I'm so sorry they take advantage of you. It's time for change. Good luck tonight x

Iloveburgerswaymorethanishould · 09/12/2024 20:57

Shinyandnew1 · 09/12/2024 20:54

Oh dear, the sound of the rug (of expensive presents) being pulled from underneath her is ringing loudly in her ears!

Shit that it’s come to this though… riled me right up this post. Manors, thought, love and care cost nothing! Worst thing is o
bet even OP doing this will
nw enough to change her family! Next year the present suggestions will
start up again!! I’ve never ever put a present request in with my
family! I just love and appreciate every little gift!!

RawBloomers · 09/12/2024 20:58

Hillrunning · 09/12/2024 17:01

A man hoping to be able to drink said whiskey on Christmas day.

Don't think the uncle is invited to OP's for Christmas day - hence him mailing the gift. More likely he doesn't drink it but gets given a fair few bottles.

Est1990 · 09/12/2024 20:59

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 20:41

Thanks all. This thread is really good at keeping me distracted and not feeling so alone right now!

Everyone has read the message, no replies. Missed call from DM, and DSis called, I didn't reply, and now apparently is on her way over.

Friend in Aus isn't around, I'm now googling beach holidays in the Caribbean 😂

I vote for Mexico.
I'm here right now and the hotel it's decorated for Christmas.
Santa's sleigh with palma trees and the ocean in the background looks amazing🇲🇽😁

Peahen81 · 09/12/2024 20:59

You are amazing for standing up to them. Go to Disney world for full on in your face Christmas joy.

BedisBliss · 09/12/2024 20:59

LaurieFairyCake · 09/12/2024 16:47

Obviously cancel, they're cunts

They're just envious of you and they've made you the family doormat

Never see any of them again Flowers

Totally agree!

nettle86 · 09/12/2024 21:01

Now you've made a very brave decision to ditch the cling ons let's turn this into planning a magical Christmas for you and dd thread. I suggest centre parcs. Although not madly exotic Christmas there is amazing 😀

m00rfarm · 09/12/2024 21:01

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 20:41

Thanks all. This thread is really good at keeping me distracted and not feeling so alone right now!

Everyone has read the message, no replies. Missed call from DM, and DSis called, I didn't reply, and now apparently is on her way over.

Friend in Aus isn't around, I'm now googling beach holidays in the Caribbean 😂

I am in Barbados at the moment with my (somewhat older than yours!) son and his girlfriend. We are staying on the West Coast near Gibbs Beach - it is wonderful and amazing. Just book it and enjoy.

Probablyshouldntsay · 09/12/2024 21:02

Your little one would love a Disney cruise at Christmas, plenty to do and safe, plenty of adults to chat to as well

Commonsense22 · 09/12/2024 21:03

So many strong Queens on mumsnet today! Well done you although it must be hard. I hope by next year you have a whole bunch of lovely friends to host and that they all come with gifts.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 09/12/2024 21:03

Disney sounds great. For the future, you could always do skiing trips over Christmas, you’d get the snow and Santa stuff, but also if your dd does ski school she’ll be with other dcs similar age to make friends. Much more fun than watching mummy run round after family.

m00rfarm · 09/12/2024 21:04

m00rfarm · 09/12/2024 21:01

I am in Barbados at the moment with my (somewhat older than yours!) son and his girlfriend. We are staying on the West Coast near Gibbs Beach - it is wonderful and amazing. Just book it and enjoy.

Forgot to add a picture!

To cancel Christmas unless I'm given a present?
twohotwaterbottles · 09/12/2024 21:04

Your WhatsApp was perfect OP. How exciting. You and DD are going on hold for Christmas 🎅🏻 🌲 woo hoo 🥳 You sound so lovely and deserve it c

newdiamondring · 09/12/2024 21:05

OP I hope you're ok and they're not on your doorstep bullying you into submission. Keep us posted. 🙏

MounjaroUser · 09/12/2024 21:05

I think you really need more therapy, OP, because the way you've behaved in such an abusive situation is really shocking.

I'm so glad you've bitten the bullet and sent that message out. It really made me laugh to think of their shock. I think you could have a really nice time donating those things but I wonder whether they'd be better raffled off by a charity rather than given away - they are so expensive!

You win the prize for having the cheekiest family. Going forward I wouldn't want anything to do with them, tbh, and would be tempted to move house so they don't even know where you are.

I hope you've got really good security on your house, too. I'd get the best alarm I could and CCTV too as I've a feeling they will be coming round over Christmas to see if their presents are still there.

And yes, Disneyland would be absolutely perfect for you and you daughter!

Darlingstarlings · 09/12/2024 21:06

Op, you sound like a lovely, thoughtful person. Unfortunately your family have taken you completely for granted and taken advantage of your niceness and generosity. The fact they couldn't be bothered to buy you daughter a gift would be the last straw for me. They have treated you badly( snide comments, no gifts, totally ungrateful) and I fear they will do the same to your daughter, especially as she gets older. Your daughter is your first priority and while I know you want to be close to your family, they need to change their attitude and realise they are lucky to have someone who cares so much, they shouldn't treat you the way they do, especially in front of your daughter. It's not fair on you or her. Enjoy your Christmas, I have had a small Christmas for years and never wan to get back to big family ones ever again.

Commonsense22 · 09/12/2024 21:07

Lapland can be another fun thing to do with a little one.
Hope you find something amazing.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 09/12/2024 21:07

Please don’t cave. You are a single parent and your DD is your only responsibility. You don’t have responsibility for your adult siblings/parents or siblings children. Keep your money for her future.

SalsaLights · 09/12/2024 21:08

Stand firm OP.

Notice how everyone jumps when they think they are going to miss their lovely gravy train?

You can't do this / think of the kids / where will we go / it's too short notice / we can't afford it and you can so it's not fair / waaaaah what about the Uggs I ordered from you

Ignore all of it. if you're up for it, then don't let her in. If you do feel you have to be polite then keep repeating the same phrases:

I need to put DD first, it's not fair to keep spending Xmas with people that can't even spend a fiver on her.

Me having a good job does not make me responsible for finding Xmas for all of you.

Sort it out yourselves, I am not getting involved.

The more you go on, the more it tells me I was right to do this, because you are clearly more concerned with losing out on your free Xmas, than spending time with me and DD.

SquirrelSoShiny · 09/12/2024 21:08

I really hope you follow through on this OP. I would honestly return the gifts and put them towards your holiday.

murasaki · 09/12/2024 21:09

Well done, and don't answer the door.

VodkaCola · 09/12/2024 21:09

Well done OP and please don't give in to all rge crying and wailing.

I wouldn't open the door if they come round this evening.

Ravenbright · 09/12/2024 21:10

Bloody well done Grinch ! (- you were never the Grinch ! ) They've got 16 days to get their own Christmas sorted. More than enough time to stick their hands in their own bloody pockets for a change. Now you go have a fabulous Christmas somewhere lovely with your daughter. 😃

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