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To cancel Christmas unless I'm given a present?

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Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 16:41

It's a long one! I've name changed.

Backstory ~

Abusive upbringing. I'm the oldest sibling and always kind of looked after everyone, including parents who both have mental health issues. Parents, and 2 siblings (DSis1 and DB) have never worked and claimed benefits. 1 sibling (DSis2) is on minimum wage. I've worked my way up and am on a nice salary well into 6 figures.

Christmas was shit growing up, no money and lots of manipulation and drama. When I moved out I started hosting everyone and trying to recreate those amazing Christmases in movies. Lots of food, tree heaving with gifts, overflowing stockings. Family always seem happy and have a ball, though there are always digs about my salary and how I could do more - I cave and each year it gets bigger and better. No one contributes at all (I haven't asked, they haven't offered).

Family are shit with my feelings or acknowledging birthdays etc. I'm aware money is ridiculously tight for them all, however I'm talking completely ignored my graduation (first one in my family), I didn't even get a text/card for my 30th. I go all out for them, and have always 'forgiven' anything hurtful based on the fact we've been through a lot and I want to treat them and put effort into having relationships. I also feel guilty that I'm financially secure, and they are not - they don't want budgeting advice etc (fair enough!) but I do help them out with money fairly often.

The issue, or more like the straw that broke this camels back:

Every year I buy loads of gifts for under the tree - everything anyone asks for, plus lots I research and find that I think they'll like - my point is, it's not just money I'm throwing at it! Everyone also buys each other one small gift, a token really. Something like a box of chocolates. I love those moments of opening gifts together, although I have far less than the others! But it's so much fun and I work so hard to try and get things everyone will love.

This year, DB has announced in the family WhatsApp that we're doing Secret Santa for the adults in the family, so we don't have to buy gifts for each other. He (and everyone) knows I'm done with my shopping and everything they've asked me for is wrapped and under the tree already. He's included an uncle I have never met - pretty sure he has me because this weekend my gift arrived in an unmarked Amazon box (so took me a good few days to figure out who had sent me a bottle of whiskey - I don't drink).

I was really hurt, by that and by the fact I won't have any gifts under the tree (I've brought for myself before and family laugh at me, I've also unwrapped gifts friends have given me, and again got made fun of because they were expensive). I talked to my best friend and decided to have conversations with the family. I spoke to all of them, one by one, and explained honestly I was disappointed because I like something to open, and would love if we could exchange gifts as I've bought for them already. I highlighted I'd be happy with something small - just a token gift. Broadly speaking the response I got was : you're being ridiculous, adults don't need gifts, we're broke and you can afford anything you want! Along with lots of hurtful digs and mean comments.

I'm now fuming and want to cancel everything and never see anyone again. I feel like they take advantage of my generosity (which I know they do!) however this cements the fact in my mind that they don't actually care about me or my feelings at all. I understand times are tough, I try and be as supportive as I can be - but am I crazy to think if you're being hosted for a week, having hundreds of pounds worth of gifts bought for you (that you've asked for! Including practical things you need and would have to buy for yourself if I didn't!), that you can afford a cheap £5 box of chocolates to humour your daughter/sister?

OP posts:
Watercolorbird · 09/12/2024 21:11

We did Mexico over Christmas once. It was great!

So proud of you OP! Stay strong! Even more outraged that they ‘loan’ money from you on the regular as well! Your financial responsibility is to your daughter. They’re sponging money away from her and her future. I cannot get over how rude and ungrateful they are. They’ve absolutely taken you for a mug. Not to be mean to you - you sound absolutely lovely. But too nice for your own good! They don’t deserve you. Their behaviour has shot themselves in the foot and they’ve brought an end to this gravy train they were extremely lucky and in no way entitled to in the first place! They should just be happy they’ve had it so good for so long. If I could be there with you to defend you when they come moaning about this I so would!

AlertCat · 09/12/2024 21:11

I dunno about the Caribbean, isn’t it hurricane season right now? How about the Azores, or (for a snowy Christmas) Austria or Slovenia? Italy even. Might be easier to short-haul with 3yo but if you went long haul somewhere like Singapore might be amazing.

Newyearnewnameagain20 · 09/12/2024 21:12

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 18:37

@Newyearnewnameagain20 this made me laugh! No, I'm happily single. I have quite a few friends who, although have plans for this Christmas, might agree to something next year.

Phew! Good luck with managing this whole situation with your family. It sounds painful. I wonder, if you go back to therapy whethe that might help navigate it…?

sandrapinchedmysandwich · 09/12/2024 21:12

Do not cave op. Every time you are tempted, think of your dd's face when she realises one day that she doesn't get any presents at Christmas from her so called family

GenerousGardener · 09/12/2024 21:13

Oh my! I bet your DB is going to be in the shit with the rest of the family for suggesting Secret Santa😂😂😂😂. This has backfired most spectacularly for them all.

OP. Your DB has done you a massive favour. Your Christmas in the future is just you and your DD.

Drop off the presents to whatever charity is your favourite. Tell your family that their gifts went to help those in need.

Buy a shit Secret Santa gift to be delivered when you are away.

Have the most fantastic Christmas with your DD OP. You are empowered.

RedorBlack · 09/12/2024 21:13

OP I am in awe of you, that's a great way to take a stand and set boundaries.

I would say don't feel the need to go away, it's perfectly fine to say you have had a busy (day /week/month/year) so will not be hosting Christmas but look forward to seeing them all in 2025.

Keep strong, you've done the hard bit by pulling off the plaster - don't let them rattle you now

MounjaroUser · 09/12/2024 21:13

It's unbelievable that they wouldn't give you or your daughter a Christmas present when you're hosting them. Secret Santa is a completely different thing.

TheMousePipes · 09/12/2024 21:14

What about this?
https://www.kinderhotel-waldhof.at/en

meant to be stunning and perfect for small people too!

Family vacation | Premium Kinderhotel Waldhof

https://www.kinderhotel-waldhof.at/en

Rhaidimiddim · 09/12/2024 21:15

Cherrysoup · 09/12/2024 20:44

Omg, you are my absolute heroine! Bloody outstanding! No to lending money, cold Turkey on that. Samaritans or Barbados all the way for donating gifts. I frequently buy from charities via eBay, just bought a lovely leather belt and my usual moisturiser.

Your message is brilliant, you’ve told them without saying that you aren’t giving them massive presents or hosting future Christmas days, massively well done. Don’t listen to flying monkeys (guaranteed someone will claim someone else is sick/broke, tough shit, frankly). Now it’s the hard bit when you get emotional blackmail/demands for the presents they know you have etc. Stand firm, or they’ll be like vultures.

SIs is already on her way over to grav the stuff that's under the tree.

IOSTT · 09/12/2024 21:15

Hope you’ve locked the front door OP! Please update us from your magnificent Christmas destination! 😍

mummytrex · 09/12/2024 21:16

Well done OP. Dont be guilt tripped. Look out for you and your DD. They're not your responsibility.

Didsomeonesaydogs · 09/12/2024 21:16

LaurieFairyCake · 09/12/2024 16:47

And buy a fucking Ferrari

I read your first response and thought “Absolutely nothing needs to be added to this”

Turns out I was dead wrong.

OP should definitely do this.

JustWalkingTheDogs · 09/12/2024 21:16

@Grinch123 hide the presents you bought them if they are still under the tree. If she asks where they are tell them you've sent the back.

MounjaroUser · 09/12/2024 21:17

I don't think I'd be interested in seeing any of them again, tbh.

PandaChopChop · 09/12/2024 21:17

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 20:41

Thanks all. This thread is really good at keeping me distracted and not feeling so alone right now!

Everyone has read the message, no replies. Missed call from DM, and DSis called, I didn't reply, and now apparently is on her way over.

Friend in Aus isn't around, I'm now googling beach holidays in the Caribbean 😂

Lights off, lock the door, get into bed.

Barbados is lovely this time of year 😁

StaunchMomma · 09/12/2024 21:19

Sending support, OP! Really hope you're not getting both barrels on your doorstep right now.

The irony is that storming over there to confront you the moment you put your foot down takes way more effort than just buying you a little gift!

LadyBlackBurd · 09/12/2024 21:20

Probablyshouldntsay · 09/12/2024 21:02

Your little one would love a Disney cruise at Christmas, plenty to do and safe, plenty of adults to chat to as well

Agreed. A family friendly cruise is perfect. If I was on my own with a LO, I would be very comfortable cruising. It’s safe, lots to do. Night time entertainment so you always busy. Good food and other guests are chatty and friendly.

Royal Caribbean have great facilities for kids too. Not sure what age your DD is?

BellaTheDarkOverlord · 09/12/2024 21:20

If she asks where the presents under tree are, you just say “oh DD’s presents?”

exLtEveDallas · 09/12/2024 21:21

We did Egypt one Xmas, it was bloody lovely. 5 star service and so much for little ones to do. Only 5 hours from UK too.

Pottedshrimpy · 09/12/2024 21:21

Go on op! Thought your text was ace!

Hope you enjoy your Christmas, you sound like a lovely person. Might be worth some therapy in the new year to distance yourself from your cockwomble relatives

murasaki · 09/12/2024 21:22

Disney sounds like a good option for you, I'm sure DD would love it. Or as said above, the kinder hotels are supposed to be fab.

Dithercats · 09/12/2024 21:22

Ooh you could do Lapland 🤶🏻

andthat · 09/12/2024 21:22

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This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

I came on to make this point.

Save the money for your child… or at least spend it on making wonderful Christmas memories for the two of you.

Alwaystired23 · 09/12/2024 21:23

I don't think I've ever read such cheeky fuckery. I'm so sorry your family are just, well, not nice people. Not even buying your dd so much as a bloody selection box at Christmas.

SalsaLights · 09/12/2024 21:24

OP at this point you could probably summon a crowd of pitchfork-wielding MNers to turn up on your doorstep, to defend you against grabby family members. Just say the word... 😆👩‍🌾

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