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To cancel Christmas unless I'm given a present?

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Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 16:41

It's a long one! I've name changed.

Backstory ~

Abusive upbringing. I'm the oldest sibling and always kind of looked after everyone, including parents who both have mental health issues. Parents, and 2 siblings (DSis1 and DB) have never worked and claimed benefits. 1 sibling (DSis2) is on minimum wage. I've worked my way up and am on a nice salary well into 6 figures.

Christmas was shit growing up, no money and lots of manipulation and drama. When I moved out I started hosting everyone and trying to recreate those amazing Christmases in movies. Lots of food, tree heaving with gifts, overflowing stockings. Family always seem happy and have a ball, though there are always digs about my salary and how I could do more - I cave and each year it gets bigger and better. No one contributes at all (I haven't asked, they haven't offered).

Family are shit with my feelings or acknowledging birthdays etc. I'm aware money is ridiculously tight for them all, however I'm talking completely ignored my graduation (first one in my family), I didn't even get a text/card for my 30th. I go all out for them, and have always 'forgiven' anything hurtful based on the fact we've been through a lot and I want to treat them and put effort into having relationships. I also feel guilty that I'm financially secure, and they are not - they don't want budgeting advice etc (fair enough!) but I do help them out with money fairly often.

The issue, or more like the straw that broke this camels back:

Every year I buy loads of gifts for under the tree - everything anyone asks for, plus lots I research and find that I think they'll like - my point is, it's not just money I'm throwing at it! Everyone also buys each other one small gift, a token really. Something like a box of chocolates. I love those moments of opening gifts together, although I have far less than the others! But it's so much fun and I work so hard to try and get things everyone will love.

This year, DB has announced in the family WhatsApp that we're doing Secret Santa for the adults in the family, so we don't have to buy gifts for each other. He (and everyone) knows I'm done with my shopping and everything they've asked me for is wrapped and under the tree already. He's included an uncle I have never met - pretty sure he has me because this weekend my gift arrived in an unmarked Amazon box (so took me a good few days to figure out who had sent me a bottle of whiskey - I don't drink).

I was really hurt, by that and by the fact I won't have any gifts under the tree (I've brought for myself before and family laugh at me, I've also unwrapped gifts friends have given me, and again got made fun of because they were expensive). I talked to my best friend and decided to have conversations with the family. I spoke to all of them, one by one, and explained honestly I was disappointed because I like something to open, and would love if we could exchange gifts as I've bought for them already. I highlighted I'd be happy with something small - just a token gift. Broadly speaking the response I got was : you're being ridiculous, adults don't need gifts, we're broke and you can afford anything you want! Along with lots of hurtful digs and mean comments.

I'm now fuming and want to cancel everything and never see anyone again. I feel like they take advantage of my generosity (which I know they do!) however this cements the fact in my mind that they don't actually care about me or my feelings at all. I understand times are tough, I try and be as supportive as I can be - but am I crazy to think if you're being hosted for a week, having hundreds of pounds worth of gifts bought for you (that you've asked for! Including practical things you need and would have to buy for yourself if I didn't!), that you can afford a cheap £5 box of chocolates to humour your daughter/sister?

OP posts:
twinmum2007 · 09/12/2024 19:23

Mandylovescandy · 09/12/2024 16:47

Can you return everything you have purchased? It doesn't solve the issue that you want to enjoy Christmas day with lots of presents but maybe they'll rethink next year after getting nothing

I second this. Return everything you can, and save everything else for regifting/next year.

Balloonhearts · 09/12/2024 19:23

Yes you're crazy! You're absolutely batshit for allowing this bollocks to go unchallenged for so long.

Do NOT host any of them over Christmas.

Simple message.

Hi Cunty Mcfucknuggets. Just to let you know, I won't be hosting Christmas this year as DD and I have plans. On reflection, I do think you are right, adults don't really need presents so going forward let's stop buying for the children after 16. Good idea. Hope you have a lovely Xmas! Love, Grinch.

Then either send back their presents, keep them or take them down the food bank and ask them to distribute with the food bags to those who might enjoy them.

If you really want to get up their noses you could put a nice note in the adults cards telling them what donation you made in their name as they were generous enough to say they didn't need presents.

JassyRadlett · 09/12/2024 19:23

OP you are a star. If Australia doesn't work out (I hope it does, amazing at any time of year!) I know a fab place in Austria which is pretty magical at Christmas and would be lovely with your DD.

Toomanylosthours · 09/12/2024 19:23

HPandthelastwish · 09/12/2024 16:52

This is on you, return the gifts and pay for therapy instead.
You are expecting everyone to change and be people they aren't and trying to please them for love and validation.

Love and validation is given freely at any price point if the person wants to give it.

I'd send a quick text " Unfortunately, I'm working overseas over the festive period and wont be able to host so you'll have to sort yourselves out"

And book a holiday!

Vegas and Miami Re great to go to on your own at Christmas. I've done both alone with no regrets.

Autumnalmists · 09/12/2024 19:24

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 18:43

Okay practical elements if you lovely lot will help me out/give me strength and more swear words:

I have tickets for all of us for a Panto, and a Lights Show, for that Christmas week. Should I offer these to them as part of my WhatsApp message? They do know about them. We're definitely going away (no idea where yet). Or I can try and offer around for free on the various local parenting WhatsApps I'm on.

Not really discussed much upthread because there was a lot, but I frequently 'loan' siblings and parents money I don't get back. Should I go cold turkey on this or agree to requests over Christmas and then say no from January. I think I'm done with this too.

Rather than post random boy your tickets, when anyone can have them, why not contact a local charity, foodbank or church and ask if they can give them to someone or family who would appreciate them. Where I live those with the million plus houses would happily snap up free tickets. Not saying they can’t have them, but there are so many for whom it would make a difficult time somewhat magical.

GreyBlackLove · 09/12/2024 19:24

Good for you OP. I'm glad you're putting yourself first

thepariscrimefiles · 09/12/2024 19:24

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 17:15

I'm 32. I'm actually a single parent - was going to include it in the original thread, but thought it got too long already!

DD is a tot. Family don't buy her gifts - they complain it's too expensive and don't want her thinking they're cheap, so I buy 'from them' every year (Christmas and birthday) so she's not disappointed.

I think this is partially why I keep it all going tbh, I don't have friends who would come over on the day, they have their own families, and I'm scared of being alone and DD growing up with a tiny Christmas. Will be researching warm, last minute breaks after this thread though, I guess even after the effort I put in it's probably not great with her growing up around this attitude (they're great with her though! She can't understand sarcasm or catty remarks yet).

They don't buy your little daughter any gifts? Surely that must make your blood boil after everything you do for them? Think about this and harden your heart and do not give them the lovely gifts that you have bought.

Shinyandnew1 · 09/12/2024 19:24

I bet there is a ‘offshoot’ family WhatsApp group that’s pinging away with messages now 😂

SlightlyJaded · 09/12/2024 19:25

I would compose a response that I would send to anyone and everyone who comes back to tell you that you've ruined Christmas. Same answer to them all.

"I'm sorry you feel that way. It's clear that you all enjoy my generosity but have little regard for my feelings. I don't think it's healthy for DD to see me as a doormat so I am drawing a line under that behaviour now for her sake. Perhaps we can spend this next year coming up with a plan that works for everyone, because this arrangement no longer works for me. Merry Christmas.'

DaringLion · 09/12/2024 19:25

Enjoy Xmas with your little one make memories just you 2

MrTiddlesTheCat · 09/12/2024 19:25

As someone who also has an extremely disfunctional family I can honestly say that the year I first did it on my own with just my little one was the best. Since then I've built a new family of special people and now I genuinely love Christmas. We're surrounded by people who genuinely love and care for us rather rhan it being a fake montage.

YourWildAmberSloth · 09/12/2024 19:25

Cancel Christmas and return the gifts, organise something special for yourself over Christmas (e.g. holiday etc), 2025 invest in counselling.
And for your DD, spending Christmas with one loving family member is better than being surrounded by a toxic mess. Forget what you see on TV and SM, make your own traditions.

Bachboo · 09/12/2024 19:27

housethatbuiltme · 09/12/2024 19:06

Start a wonder nuclear Christmas with just you and DD.

It was just me and my mam growing up and it was AMAZING, we had the best Christmases just the two of us... I also learned my attitude for loving Christmas and the joy of gift giving from my mam, everyone that ever met her said she was the most generous person they ever met.

I absolutely LOVE this ♥️

MrsWhites · 09/12/2024 19:27

Glad you stuck up for yourself OP. I hope that once they have calmed down about the fact that they aren’t getting their Uggs and Lego that they reflect on their behaviour and going forward you can enjoy family christmases without the expectation of £££.

Nothanks17 · 09/12/2024 19:28

Return all their gifts, but still do christmas. Or keep them. Or give the gifts to charity and say as youve done secret santa you gave the gifts to charity for those less fortunate. Set the tone at christmas that youre not doing it anymore.

toucheee · 09/12/2024 19:28

Iwrotethelyricstoaxlf · 09/12/2024 19:21

What’s the Lego kit and are you open to offers?

Let’s not do this.

OP, sell the items on eBay.

Namerequired · 09/12/2024 19:28

Secret Santa is a great idea! Just make sure you stick to it too and don’t give them the presents you have bought.
It can be hard dealing with childhood trauma but you have done so well in life and you will do well with this. Don’t allow people to use you x

Snugglemonkey · 09/12/2024 19:28

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 18:43

Okay practical elements if you lovely lot will help me out/give me strength and more swear words:

I have tickets for all of us for a Panto, and a Lights Show, for that Christmas week. Should I offer these to them as part of my WhatsApp message? They do know about them. We're definitely going away (no idea where yet). Or I can try and offer around for free on the various local parenting WhatsApps I'm on.

Not really discussed much upthread because there was a lot, but I frequently 'loan' siblings and parents money I don't get back. Should I go cold turkey on this or agree to requests over Christmas and then say no from January. I think I'm done with this too.

I see two options:
*Donate on a parenting app- this would absolutely delight someone who couldn't afford to go. Keep yours and child's, go and enjoy and head off after
*Put in WhatsApp family that you are not doing secret santa, they are right, adults don't need gifts, you just bought experiences for the kids, give them the tickets.

No lending money ever again

CalmBalonz · 09/12/2024 19:28

Cut them off. Selfish bastards. Don't host again. They are so taking advantage of you. They are missing the point of what you are trying to get through to them, not that you should have to!

Pallisers · 09/12/2024 19:29

Honestly, OP, I'd lose the second paragraph. If they ask for money, say sorry I can't. If they say well next year will be at yours say "no I think I've done my shar of hosting" if they ask about their presents say "what? I thought we were doing secret santa - there are no other presents"

IsawwhatIsaw · 09/12/2024 19:29

They are workshy lazy grifters who I suspect are bitterly jealous and resentful of you. I suspect their take is that you owe them.
So your response is perfect. You don’t need leeches like this, so spend your time - and money if you so choose - on those who like you , don’t take advantage, and add positively to your life.

JustWalkingTheDogs · 09/12/2024 19:30

SlightlyJaded · 09/12/2024 19:25

I would compose a response that I would send to anyone and everyone who comes back to tell you that you've ruined Christmas. Same answer to them all.

"I'm sorry you feel that way. It's clear that you all enjoy my generosity but have little regard for my feelings. I don't think it's healthy for DD to see me as a doormat so I am drawing a line under that behaviour now for her sake. Perhaps we can spend this next year coming up with a plan that works for everyone, because this arrangement no longer works for me. Merry Christmas.'

This is a good idea. Draft a response for when they come back with the 'all woe is me, you've ruined Christmas etc'

As for their one present each, don't give them uggs or LEGO, some chocolate or smellies will do just fine. Remind them of their words 'adults don't need presents'

Heronwatcher · 09/12/2024 19:30

Grinch123 · 09/12/2024 19:13

Okay! It's taken a while but here it is ~ thanks for the input all. Will update with any responses (I've muted it but am extremely anxious and het up so will probably still be watching).

Hi all,

A bit last minute I know but I’ve just booked for DD and I to go away for Christmas for a well-deserved break! I’ve been doing some reflecting and it’s clear the kind of Christmases I host just aren’t working for us anymore. Secret Santa and only having to buy one gift to cover everyone is a great idea, I’m going to make sure my gift gets to the recipient before we go away.

I’m hoping we can find a solution for future Christmases - I’m all out of hosting energy but would love to take it in turns to host, or meet up for a dinner or something as long as we can all find our share of the cash. Going forward all my financial resources will be focused on DD and my future. Happy to share budgeting tips if you find yourself in a tight spot.

I love it!

Don’t do the panto and the lights, unless you want wall to wall digs, needling or emotional blackmail. If you want to give them the tickets then that’s fine but you won’t get any gratitude. I’d take my DD and tell the others that sadly they were part of the non secret Santa so probably best to give it a swerve this year, then sell the extra tickets.

As for the loan- I think you know the answer there- “sorry did you not get my message, my financial resources are focussed on my DD. If you want to send me a breakdown of your monthly expenditure I’d be really happy to help you go through it after Christmas…”

Balloonhearts · 09/12/2024 19:31

No! Do not offer them the tickets or anything else! Cut them off, the ungrateful tossers.

CalmBalonz · 09/12/2024 19:32

Cancel and don't give them anything. Bloody leeches

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