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Buttonsmum67 · 09/12/2024 10:29

I will preface this by saying my mother is queen Narcissist.

Last year I did a DNA Ancestry test with my kids for a fun present. My youngest's came back with a random name as his maternal grandfather- then my eldest's came back with the same thing. Then mine with this random man as my father.

I with the help of friends managed to send my mother a message asking for an explanation. She said it must be wrong etc and told me to stop being ridiculous. At this point I did another one and it came back with the same match as before with this random man.

I messaged again and said I wanted answers now. She turned up at my house at 5am in floods of tears saying she had been attacked by a man and she had thought she had got rid of me with the morning after pill and then two months later found out she was pregnant again and had thought it was a miracle to come from something so horrible (she thought I was my dad's, as in my dad who bought me up). She asked me to promise that I would never say anything to anyone as it would ruin her marriage.

When we matched with this other gentlemen he messaged me immediately asking wtf was going on. I told him my mothers name trying to gauge any panic from him and he wrote back a long message saying basically omg we had a couple of months long affair when I was working with her- he mentioned my dads name and that they used to meet while my dad was working nights etc and she called it all off when my dad asked her to marry him. He has asked to meet but I have put that on the back burner for now as I don't know which story is true. And before anyone judges me about saying I don't think my mother would lie about being attacked, she has lied about having serious illness before to get out of arguments she created.

She then began what I can only describe as a hate campaign against me- making up stories to my siblings and dad about how she had had to borrow me money etc and I wasn't paying it back- none of which were true.

Since last year we now never speak. I have messaged and called my dad and even turned up at their house to speak to him and he has said his loyalties lie with my mother and I have greatly upset her with my behaviour. I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING! Every time I call his phone she picks up and says you won't be saying anything will you.

When I say she was abusive growing up I am in therapy as still in my 30s I struggle to stand up to her.

This morning my aunts messaged me saying about my brothers weddings (He is her golden child and doesn't make any effort to contact me or my sister back). I haven't been invited. I am seething.

I feel like drinking a bottle of wine and writing to every member of my family what has happened to stop this bull, but I also don't want to ruin my dads life. He is so under the thumb with her I don't think he'd kick off anyway.

But here I am sitting a year later left on my own thinking I'm a product of rape and now being completely cut out of the family. My mother says she was attacked, my biological dad said they were having a fully consensual affair, I haven't told him what my mum said.

But I feel like I am keeping a massive secret for the benefit of everyone else and now I am the one being ostracised. I am so upset I am being cut out.

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Thedishwasherbroke · 09/12/2024 11:08

Maddy70 · 09/12/2024 10:58

I would suck it up. Ancestry things are so destructive. Your mum had a secret. That was hers to keep tbh things were different then.

You are blowing up the whole family by announcing this. For what? Why upset your dad?

If you tell everyone so you think they will all come running to you? What outcome will you have?

No it isn’t her mother’s secret to keep and 1986 is not so far back in time. Things weren’t that different. OP is perfectly reasonable to expect to know who her biological parents are. If her Dad is upset that’s on her Mum, not OP.

LuckysDadsHat · 09/12/2024 11:08

I should have also added to my post, I would tell them all what you have found out. Your Mum has blown up the family by excluding you and lying about you. Tell them all. You have proof. You have nothing to lose as they aren't speaking to you anyway!

ttcat37 · 09/12/2024 11:09

Maddy70 · 09/12/2024 11:07

Yes unless you want to lose all your family. Your poor dad

She’s lost them all already because her mum’s been lying about her. Why should she be the one that has to bear the brunt of it all? Her ‘poor dad’ deserves to know the truth, and OP deserves to be vindicated, she’s done nothing wrong.

Imbusytodaysorry · 09/12/2024 11:09

I believe the man who is your real dad .
I thin you go and speak with him . Between him and your therapy you may end up with a nee nice family member . It will be easier to walk away from the toxic ones.

If you tell everyone you will somehow still be the bad guy .
Id walk from them all . You mum is one nasty women .

Yes like a previous poster said it was her secret but ,,, seems you mother doesn’t care who she gifts as long as she is pulling everyone’s strings so life is going her way.

MaMaMalenka · 09/12/2024 11:09

Tbry24 · 09/12/2024 10:53

That would imply your dad knew at the time.

THIS

Bournetilly · 09/12/2024 11:11

I think YABU for keeping the secret and allowing your family to treat you like that for no reason. I would 100% be telling them, and find out the truth from your biological father (sounds like he is telling the truth).

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 09/12/2024 11:12

I do think you should tell your dad and siblings, not for vengeance, but to make sure you have support. DNA doesn't lie so if you send them the results, they'll have no choice but to believe you. This isn't your secret to keep and your mum has thrown you under the bus to protect herself, not very maternal, you don't owe her anything. Set this right for yourself and your children x

Badburyrings · 09/12/2024 11:12

Tbry24 · 09/12/2024 10:59

Her mothers kicked her out of the family! Who should the OP lose everyone? That’s not fair.

How is this fair on the OP. She has been cut out of the family for nothing apart from her mother’s panic she is going to tell someone. How on earth should the OP just suck it up!

Whyherewego · 09/12/2024 11:13

Buttonsmum67 · 09/12/2024 11:02

Huh? So she can make up lies about me and stop everyone speaking to me and I just have to suck it up?

No don't suck it up.
I'd call a meeting with her. Just the two of you and tell her in no uncertain terms that you know that her story is bs. That you've had contact with this man. That you are OK to say nothing to dad but she has to stop this toxic exclusion of you. Because if she doesn't then you'll have nothing left to lose and you may as well tell everyone the truth.

Badburyrings · 09/12/2024 11:13

Badburyrings · 09/12/2024 11:12

How is this fair on the OP. She has been cut out of the family for nothing apart from her mother’s panic she is going to tell someone. How on earth should the OP just suck it up!

Sorry @Tbry24 that post looks odd, I am agreeing with you.

TonTonMacoute · 09/12/2024 11:15

I would write to your mum.

Tell her that unless she stops this campaign against you you will tell everyone. That you haven't done anything wrong and you just want to be part of the family again. Take it from there.

If your biological father is interested in meeting you it strongly suggests the relationship with your mum was consensual.

Starlight7080 · 09/12/2024 11:16

If she can make up lies about you now then she definitely sounds like she lied about having an affair.
If it was me I would write letter to all my family members and explain exactly what has happened.
She obviously doesn't care about your feelings , so why should you worry about hers.

devongirl12 · 09/12/2024 11:16

Maddy70 · 09/12/2024 10:58

I would suck it up. Ancestry things are so destructive. Your mum had a secret. That was hers to keep tbh things were different then.

You are blowing up the whole family by announcing this. For what? Why upset your dad?

If you tell everyone so you think they will all come running to you? What outcome will you have?

But she hasn't told anybody anything and she has already been ostracised. Through no fault of her own.

The issue here js the mother.

TheNavyPombear · 09/12/2024 11:16

I think she's lying about the rape because you said she has lied about serious illness before so I don't think she's above lying about SA. I say expose her and show evidence to prove you're not lying to them. I'm so sorry this happened to you.

RosesAndHellebores · 09/12/2024 11:17

LIZS · 09/12/2024 10:57

Sp it wasn't an affair as such, if they had not married yet. Her story re. ONS and MAP does not stand up, it wasn't easily available then.

I think it was. I had no problem getting it at that time.

bigkidatheart · 09/12/2024 11:18

Only read OP posts

I don't think this guy would have been so quick to contact you if you were the product of an assault. He sounds genuine. Would a relationship with this man be an option?

I think your mother has always known you were not your 'dads' and this is why your brother is the golden child. It sounds like she resents you. Do you think your dad maybe deep down knew but wanted to marry your mum so just went along with it and became your dad?

Silvers11 · 09/12/2024 11:18

Tbry24 · 09/12/2024 10:53

That would imply your dad knew at the time.

I'm not sure that it necessarily implies anything of the sort. 2 months isn't so long really. OP's Mum and the Dad may both have thought that he was the Father of the baby since it appears, from what OP said, that both may have been sleeping with her Mum during that 2 month period?

fgsistwbotp · 09/12/2024 11:19

I would tell your father and siblings about the ancestry.com results. I wouldn't keep her secret when she has behaved like this and told lies about the reason for the argument and caused you to be ostracized from the family.
DNA tests don't lie.
She might be lying about the rape, but on the other hand she might not be lying. Your biological father isn't going to say that he raped her, he's going to come up with the affair story. But perhaps the affair story is true. It's really impossible to tell.

Purplecatshopaholic · 09/12/2024 11:19

Maddy70 · 09/12/2024 10:58

I would suck it up. Ancestry things are so destructive. Your mum had a secret. That was hers to keep tbh things were different then.

You are blowing up the whole family by announcing this. For what? Why upset your dad?

If you tell everyone so you think they will all come running to you? What outcome will you have?

Are you off the chart bonkers? This most certainly was not the mothers secret to keep, dear god, this is 100% a huge issue for the op. Her parentage may well not be what she thought. FFS, what planet are you on.
Op, I’d speak to the man who is likely your bio father and hear more from him. Is his story credible, or is hers..? I’d defo be telling family too, this is not a mess of your creation. Whatever you choose to do I wish you well, I’m so sorry you are in this situation.

RareLemur · 09/12/2024 11:20

Tell your family, preferably without your mother's knowledge so that she doesn't have the time to tell more lies about you.
Tell them the truth, show them the ancestry results, tell them that she has been lying to everyone about your actions.
Then it's up to them if they still believe her, but at least you will have said your piece and they have both sides of the story.

Middlemarch123 · 09/12/2024 11:21

Your dad, whether he realises it or not, is enabling her. He deserves to know the truth. Your mother has dug herself a deep hole, she can try to crawl out of it. Tell the truth, none of this is your fault, you’re not at blame here, your father can decide what to do with the facts when he has them.

ilovesushi · 09/12/2024 11:21

What a hard situation! What is your relationship like with your dad? Is this going to come as a major shock to him? The way you've found out is a million miles from ideal. Can you find a way to let the rest of your family know which will minimise the shock and fallout. You don't want good relationships fractured over this.

thepariscrimefiles · 09/12/2024 11:22

Maddy70 · 09/12/2024 11:07

Yes unless you want to lose all your family. Your poor dad

You feel sorry for OP's dad but not OP? OP has just found out that her dad is not her dad and she should just suck it up and allow her toxic mother to spread lies about her?

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams · 09/12/2024 11:23

This. I wouldn't meet with your mother at all in advance. It will just give her more of an opportunity to get her own lies in first.

I would start with your sister and ask her to arrange a meeting with you and your Dad without your mothers knowledge. Then sit them both down with the evidence. You don't want to lose them but your Mum is in arse covering mode and has chosen to make up lies about you in order to exclude you from the family in case it all comes out. You don't want to lose your relationship with them but cannot be treated like this with so many lies made about you.

He has assumed you were biologically his and it will be a shock. Your mum will almost certainly say that's what she thought - it's his choice whether to believe that for his own sake. You have two half siblings so they have clearly had a long marriage even if she is a total witch.

Not sure I'd bother with golden balls unless you were previously close which it doesn't sound like. He sounds like the sort of man child who will choose the greenest side to stay on.

Whether you say anything or not, there's a high risk your family will simply stay on your mum's side as the easier option. But at least you've given a chance to the man who has been your father for 30+ years to continue your relationship.

Re your biological Dad. I would do a Clare's law request and assuming that's absolutely clear, I'd ask to meet him.

user1471538283 · 09/12/2024 11:24

You have facts on your side. Your DM is projecting because she's been caught out. I'd let the whole family know this. Maybe your other siblings have a different father? You are not to blame and this is spiteful.

It does sound like your DF knew. What I don't understand is why they didn't even mention it as you were growing up? Even if you were as a result of rape (which it doesn't sound like you were) you deserved to know the facts. Your DF would still be your DF and you wouldn't have had this shock.