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louisbalfournice · 2024-12-07T19:40:57+00:00

Local XL bully shot today. The owner is saying on social media that the dog was harmless but I've seen it go for a a small child before. Why are these dogs 'harmless" until they injure or kill

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 07/12/2024 21:13

Just read the article - how was the woman bitten, and yet uninjured?

also, they aren't a breed. That's really part of the problem when it comes to the rules of owning one.

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:13

Donttellempike · 07/12/2024 21:11

I’ll explain it for the slow ones at the back. What you have said is meaningless and does not add anything to the pints already made .

You’re welcome

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Sounds like you just didn't have any solid reasoning to come back at me with.

Bibi12 · 07/12/2024 21:15

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 07/12/2024 21:13

Just read the article - how was the woman bitten, and yet uninjured?

also, they aren't a breed. That's really part of the problem when it comes to the rules of owning one.

It doesn't matter they are not the breed. They are specific type of dog and if they meet certain characteristics they are banned.

Dunnoburt · 07/12/2024 21:15

Meh I've had enough of any dog nowadays......especially these bloody weapons.....sorry......my opinion....save you all the trouble I'm probably an ignorant wanker, cunt, twat, intolerant......there are some lovely bully owners round here that use the enclosed under 14s children's play park to exercise off lead.....sooner they are all gone the better.

WearyAuldWumman · 07/12/2024 21:16

SensibleSigma · 07/12/2024 19:57

Bloody hell. That actually looks like a monster! Many of them don’t.

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It's the size of the head that astonishes me.

Donttellempike · 07/12/2024 21:16

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:13

Sounds like you just didn't have any solid reasoning to come back at me with.

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Of course it does.

Dunnoburt · 07/12/2024 21:17

Dunnoburt · 07/12/2024 21:15

Meh I've had enough of any dog nowadays......especially these bloody weapons.....sorry......my opinion....save you all the trouble I'm probably an ignorant wanker, cunt, twat, intolerant......there are some lovely bully owners round here that use the enclosed under 14s children's play park to exercise off lead.....sooner they are all gone the better.

Oh.....and my OH is on a completely different page and says its the owner!......nar!

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:19

Bibi12 · 07/12/2024 21:13

Of course it's the breed and I wish people like you would stop the gaslighting!
It's not about how aggressive the dog is because yes, the little ones can be more aggressive. It's about what damage it causes when it does attack. And EVERY dog can attack. Small terrier will cut your skin and you can kick it away.
When x bully dogs attack, doesn't matter how rarely it happens, it does end with crushed bones and ripped flesh after one bite. Due to their presestince, strength and biting style (hold and shake) they can cause irreversible damage within seconds and they almost impossible to be stopped unless you have a gun! Nobody should be able to own such a powerful, determined dog but they atract all sort of wrong people who don't train them well and treat them like babies who can do no harm (making them aggressive on purpose is actually way less common depite that myth). The problem is lack of leadership and prevention by the owner. That's why most of those tragedies are caused by so called "harmless family dogs " .

You can't control all owners! How do you think this can be done ? Will you monitor every owner of bully breed 24/7? What if they were fine in a first place but their circumstances changed and now they are neglecting this potentially extremely powerful dog? What if they miss the signs of dog's dominating tendencies. Or are we just supposed to patiently wait until another child dies so we can then blame the owner ?

The only way is to ban those dogs. There are endless breeds to chose from. Someone fancying a specific breed should never come before safety of the public.

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By that logic we have to ban all dogs that are not really small.

Just because you don't see the telly box going on about other breeds attacking doesn't mean they don't, it's just not sensational enough for them to report.

Someone disagreeing with you isn't gaslighting you 😂 We are allowed different views.

I think it's got more to do with the owners, you think the breed is evil, I could argue you're gaslighting me but I'm not a total drama queen.

Zapx · 07/12/2024 21:20

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:08

I'm sure if a professional and experienced (in the breed) owned an XL and had it in the right environment with the right training it would be a safe dog. The owner is at fault, or whoever sold a dog to someone who would allow it to turn out this way. Every decade a new dog is demonised, German shepherds, rotties, staffies, dobermans have all had their moment where they get blamed. Owners create dangerous dogs.

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Unfortunately for this “breed” it would appear the right environment would be “nowhere near any other animals or humans”.

DarkDarkNight · 07/12/2024 21:21

It's not the breed it's the owners. XLBs are popular with roadmen for defensive purposes.

It absolutely is the breed though. It’s literally what they are bred for.

Stupid owner after stupid owner seeing the endless stories and thinking ‘not my dog, they’re a big softie, look at this picture of them lying next to my baby’. Any dog can turn of course but when a dog built like that turns it’s deadly. It’s not like being attacked by a Labrador for example because the strength of their jaws and power of their bite is so different, how they lock on, who would have a chance to fight back?

Porcuporpoise · 07/12/2024 21:22

It was in my city - not the first time either. Was the dog muzzled under control as prescribed by law? If not, then frankly I don't care, we don't have to wait for them to attack.

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Connected1 · 07/12/2024 21:23

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 20:23

Other breeds injure and kill people too.

Bully attacks always get reported where other breeds might not, because of the debate around them, the media is biased.

When I was a kid it was Rottweilers. Don't hear much about them these days

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Media bias? Rottweilers are still dangerous, but if you Google fatal dog attacks by breed, you'll see that pitbulls are way ahead, followed by rottweilers.

This graph is American but you can extrapolate.

aperolspritzbasicbitch · 07/12/2024 21:24

@Bibi12 my point was that people talking about how it's 'not the breed' can't use that argument - because it's not a breed. There's no standard, no expected characteristics or temperament.
It's also why it's possibly easier to get away with bending the rules when owning one - if border terriers became a breed that had to be leashed and I saw an owner not doing that, i would be able to report with confidence if I wanted.
I can't say the same for an xl.
So with my points in mind, it actually does matter that it's not a breed.

Happyearlyretirement · 07/12/2024 21:25

My young relatives Rehomed a 1 year old pocket bully, took it to training is an experienced dog owner. Guess what, the dog is a nightmare and now she wants rid. It’s not a banned bred do will likely pass it onto someone else. I say pts.

EasternEcho · 07/12/2024 21:26

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 20:13

How do you know? Are you in Texas?

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It's a moot point as owning big cats as private citizens was banned by legislation in 2022. You can keep existing tigers, but they cannot be bred any further. I don't live in the US but I know this. Even though there may not be an explicit law against taking a tiger for a walk in Texas, local ordinances and civil liability laws and insurance requirements would not support it. Do you only know things about the area you live in?

DaughterOfSqualor · 07/12/2024 21:26

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 19:58

I've met tiny terriers that have scared me more than most of the XL bullies I've met.

It's not the breed it's the owners. XLBs are popular with roadmen for defensive purposes.

Not an XL, but the best dogs I've ever met were staffies.

Sorry, that's absurd. No matter how 'scared' you might have been of a tiny ferocious terrier, a tiny terrier doesn't have the ability to kill a grown adult. And an XL Bully does. I'd be in favour of dumping the irresponsible owners in the sea too, but honestly I don't see any solution to these overbred monsters other than. blanket ban and round-up with a view to euthanising.

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:26

DrZaraCarmichael · 07/12/2024 21:10

Maybe some people have the misfortune to live in neighbourhoods where people around them have these animals, or their children have to walk to school past houses where these beasts are in the garden?

People who act as apologists for these animals are just unhinged.

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I've lived in a neighborhood like this, like I've already explained. I reported these dogs several times as I could see they were being mishandled. Nothing was done, until one attacked a neighbour, or the owners got nicked for other crimes.

Conversely I've known many bully type dogs, staffies, larger ones, who were very sweet and loving and that was because their owners handled and trained them well.

I've know other breeds to be aggressive, usually because they were not well socialised, trained or handled at some point in their lives.

If we focus on bullies as the root of all evil we could miss the doberman, collie, or mongrel who's dangerous.

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:27

DaughterOfSqualor · 07/12/2024 21:26

Sorry, that's absurd. No matter how 'scared' you might have been of a tiny ferocious terrier, a tiny terrier doesn't have the ability to kill a grown adult. And an XL Bully does. I'd be in favour of dumping the irresponsible owners in the sea too, but honestly I don't see any solution to these overbred monsters other than. blanket ban and round-up with a view to euthanising.

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My point is the terrier is aggressive because nobody bothered to train/socialise it thinking it's too small to do any harm.

Katbum · 07/12/2024 21:29

Poor dogs being bred to live in a state of frenzy and more often than not owned by idiots who cannot control them. Agree with the poster above no one should be allowed to own a domestic pet that can easily kill an adult.

MugPlate · 07/12/2024 21:29

Please stop equating staffies to xl bulldogs.

The breed histories are completely different.

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:29

EasternEcho · 07/12/2024 21:26

It's a moot point as owning big cats as private citizens was banned by legislation in 2022. You can keep existing tigers, but they cannot be bred any further. I don't live in the US but I know this. Even though there may not be an explicit law against taking a tiger for a walk in Texas, local ordinances and civil liability laws and insurance requirements would not support it. Do you only know things about the area you live in?

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I'm sure the Texans are going to abide by those laws just as XL bully owners do here. Especially since they don't want to make the big profits available from the sale of cubs

Have you always been so naïve?

LigamentBandy · 07/12/2024 21:29

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:27

My point is the terrier is aggressive because nobody bothered to train/socialise it thinking it's too small to do any harm.

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Have you ever had a thought , you have kept to yourself and not just blurted out on the internet? If not maybe it could be your (early) New Year's resolution?

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:31

LigamentBandy · 07/12/2024 21:29

Have you ever had a thought , you have kept to yourself and not just blurted out on the internet? If not maybe it could be your (early) New Year's resolution?

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Of course, I've had plenty in the course of this thread I've kept to myself 😂

Who made you the forum police, anyway?

ByHardyAquaFox · 07/12/2024 21:31

Do they take volunteers for shooting these dogs?