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XL bully shot

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louisbalfournice · 07/12/2024 19:40

Local XL bully shot today. The owner is saying on social media that the dog was harmless but I've seen it go for a a small child before. Why are these dogs 'harmless" until they injure or kill

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livanlaterlaterlater · 07/12/2024 21:05

I absolutely love dogs but am glad to read this!

OhshitSharon · 07/12/2024 21:05

I have a staffie, love bull breeds in general and think breed specific legislation is an absolute waste of time but in the case of XL's I do believe they should all be euthanised, something has gone horribly wrong with this breed. It's hard to know how much of what I've read is true about the bloodlines and inbreeding some people believe is responsible for their instability but it would certainly seem there is something genetically wrong with them and I can't bring myself to argue in their defence the way I would for other bull breeds, or to feel too sorry when I hear another one has been destroyed even though that pains me to say as a dog lover.

JazzyJelly · 07/12/2024 21:05

I adore dogs. Don't understand why anyone would ever have a fighting breed, unless they want to fight them. If they do, they should be in prison, and the poor dogs should be humanely put down.

Donttellempike · 07/12/2024 21:05

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:03

So many people coming for the dog but what about the OWNER?! Dogs aren't born bad, they are raised that way. There will be certain traits in dogs that lend them to specific jobs and make them unsuitable for certain homes (a working collie stuck in a flat that doesn't get walked etc). But that dog biting someone is down to the owner not training them and instilling bad behaviour. Should we also shoot the owner before he buys another dog, doesn't train it and let's it turn dangerous?

What is this argument? It is without any merit whatsoever, only a moron would have a dog bred to kill. Both are problematic. The end

TrippTover · 07/12/2024 21:06

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:03

So many people coming for the dog but what about the OWNER?! Dogs aren't born bad, they are raised that way. There will be certain traits in dogs that lend them to specific jobs and make them unsuitable for certain homes (a working collie stuck in a flat that doesn't get walked etc). But that dog biting someone is down to the owner not training them and instilling bad behaviour. Should we also shoot the owner before he buys another dog, doesn't train it and let's it turn dangerous?

But the damage a chihuahua bite would do is nothing compared to the damage an XL bully would do. Plus you can get a chihuahua off someone far easier than you can an XL bully. Surely you can see that the breed does come in to it.

QuestionableMouse · 07/12/2024 21:06

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 20:21

Not kill, but injure. Could do more harm to a kid. Showing much aggression. I've met more terriers I believed would attack than bullys. Probably because nobody bothers to train small dogs.

Not to say I've not met some bullys who I was scared would attack, they belonged to roadmen who eventually got nicked and the dogs removed. They all knew each other and one bred his bully. They trained them to attack in their defence and to hunt wildlife.

I don't think it's possible to breed a dog to be aggressive, just as you don't breed a dog to herd sheep or sniff out cocaine or lead blind people. You can breed them to be trainable for these things, but the way they're handled is more important.

What a load of rubbish.

I know a border collie who has never been trained to herd sheep but will round up groups of anything. My terrier is a brilliant ratter, which is something I've never trained! You only have to look at any working breed to see the instincts are there naturally.

And unfortunately these dogs have been bred to be big and to attack once they're triggered.

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:07

SquirrelSoShiny · 07/12/2024 21:04

Every time I think I've read peak stupid on MN someone comes along and surprises me.

XL bullies need to be eradicated from the earth.

What do you think will happen then?

The irresponsible dog owners/roadmen/shitbags who need protection dogs will choose another large breed.

We will all be saying that breed is evil, because only those attacks will get reported.

CharlotteLucas3 · 07/12/2024 21:07

There was one in the vets last week and I was quite horrified by the size of it. I'm not sure how large they have to be to be classified as xl bullies and I've seen some that I thought might be, but this one was much much larger than any others I've seen. It was wearing a muzzle but it clearly weighed more than its owner and there was a small child with it too.

DrZaraCarmichael · 07/12/2024 21:07

So many people coming for the dog but what about the OWNER?! Dogs aren't born bad, they are raised that way

Disagree.

Mutant beasts like these "XL bullies" are born genetically pre-disposed to being aggressive. However you "raise them.

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:08

Donttellempike · 07/12/2024 21:05

What is this argument? It is without any merit whatsoever, only a moron would have a dog bred to kill. Both are problematic. The end

I'm sure if a professional and experienced (in the breed) owned an XL and had it in the right environment with the right training it would be a safe dog. The owner is at fault, or whoever sold a dog to someone who would allow it to turn out this way. Every decade a new dog is demonised, German shepherds, rotties, staffies, dobermans have all had their moment where they get blamed. Owners create dangerous dogs.

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:08

Honestly the level of aggression in this thread is hilarious.

Anyone would think some of you lot were bred to be aggressive attack dogs.

Donttellempike · 07/12/2024 21:08

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:08

I'm sure if a professional and experienced (in the breed) owned an XL and had it in the right environment with the right training it would be a safe dog. The owner is at fault, or whoever sold a dog to someone who would allow it to turn out this way. Every decade a new dog is demonised, German shepherds, rotties, staffies, dobermans have all had their moment where they get blamed. Owners create dangerous dogs.

And?

TrippTover · 07/12/2024 21:09

CharlotteLucas3 · 07/12/2024 21:07

There was one in the vets last week and I was quite horrified by the size of it. I'm not sure how large they have to be to be classified as xl bullies and I've seen some that I thought might be, but this one was much much larger than any others I've seen. It was wearing a muzzle but it clearly weighed more than its owner and there was a small child with it too.

Hope it was in to be euthanised and didn’t come out again!

LigamentBandy · 07/12/2024 21:09

Bogeyes · 07/12/2024 20:55

There is a foster carer near me who is responsible for two children. He has got a xl bully. He isn't supposed to have it but hides it when authorities are visiting. Wwyd?

I would report him to every authority I could think of & repeatedly until they did something

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:09

DrZaraCarmichael · 07/12/2024 21:07

So many people coming for the dog but what about the OWNER?! Dogs aren't born bad, they are raised that way

Disagree.

Mutant beasts like these "XL bullies" are born genetically pre-disposed to being aggressive. However you "raise them.

Stop it, mutant beasts 😂 they are a dog, yes bred for a specific purpose but is a jack Russel also a mini mutant beast who shakes rats? 😂

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 07/12/2024 21:09

So many people coming for the dog but what about the OWNER?! Dogs aren't born bad, they are raised that way

That's not necessarily true with XLs. They turn. They don't know they're being bad anyway, when they do it. They are joyously following instincts.

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:10

Donttellempike · 07/12/2024 21:08

And?

Fantastic come back there 👏🏻

DrZaraCarmichael · 07/12/2024 21:10

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:08

Honestly the level of aggression in this thread is hilarious.

Anyone would think some of you lot were bred to be aggressive attack dogs.

Maybe some people have the misfortune to live in neighbourhoods where people around them have these animals, or their children have to walk to school past houses where these beasts are in the garden?

People who act as apologists for these animals are just unhinged.

carly2803 · 07/12/2024 21:10

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 19:58

I've met tiny terriers that have scared me more than most of the XL bullies I've met.

It's not the breed it's the owners. XLBs are popular with roadmen for defensive purposes.

Not an XL, but the best dogs I've ever met were staffies.

yes because a tiny terrier can kill you with one bite
not.

xl bullys kill. terriers can be got off with one swift kick

Thelnebriati · 07/12/2024 21:10

How many XL owners have third party liability insurance, or carry a gag/break stick?

Donttellempike · 07/12/2024 21:11

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:10

Fantastic come back there 👏🏻

I’ll explain it for the slow ones at the back. What you have said is meaningless and does not add anything to the pints already made .

You’re welcome

Zapx · 07/12/2024 21:12

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 20:11

No pets that could kill an adult? So no mastiffs then? No German shepherds? Rottweilers?

Apparently they have more pet tigers in Texas than in all the zoos in all the world. I learned that recently but I've never seen any pearl clutching about it.

If I see someone walking a tiger down the street, I promise I’ll do some pearl clutching.

And back in the real world, I’m glad the dog was killed BEFORE it managed to actually kill someone, which is so often not the case.

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 21:12

QuestionableMouse · 07/12/2024 21:06

What a load of rubbish.

I know a border collie who has never been trained to herd sheep but will round up groups of anything. My terrier is a brilliant ratter, which is something I've never trained! You only have to look at any working breed to see the instincts are there naturally.

And unfortunately these dogs have been bred to be big and to attack once they're triggered.

When I was a kid a relative had a truly terrifying collie. The postman refused to deliver. It was absolutely vicious. It never tried to round anything up, it was after blood.

You can't judge an animal's aggression by breed only.

Flopsy145 · 07/12/2024 21:12

TrippTover · 07/12/2024 21:06

But the damage a chihuahua bite would do is nothing compared to the damage an XL bully would do. Plus you can get a chihuahua off someone far easier than you can an XL bully. Surely you can see that the breed does come in to it.

Plenty of badly behaved chihuahuas because owners think with their size "it doesn't really matter." All dogs should be trained, yes a chihuahua wouldn't do as much damage but if it bit a child in the face and the owner said "oh it's only small" I would not accept that as an excuse.

Bibi12 · 07/12/2024 21:13

ScorpioRising83 · 07/12/2024 19:58

I've met tiny terriers that have scared me more than most of the XL bullies I've met.

It's not the breed it's the owners. XLBs are popular with roadmen for defensive purposes.

Not an XL, but the best dogs I've ever met were staffies.

Of course it's the breed and I wish people like you would stop the gaslighting!
It's not about how aggressive the dog is because yes, the little ones can be more aggressive. It's about what damage it causes when it does attack. And EVERY dog can attack. Small terrier will cut your skin and you can kick it away.
When x bully dogs attack, doesn't matter how rarely it happens, it does end with crushed bones and ripped flesh after one bite. Due to their presestince, strength and biting style (hold and shake) they can cause irreversible damage within seconds and they almost impossible to be stopped unless you have a gun! Nobody should be able to own such a powerful, determined dog but they atract all sort of wrong people who don't train them well and treat them like babies who can do no harm (making them aggressive on purpose is actually way less common depite that myth). The problem is lack of leadership and prevention by the owner. That's why most of those tragedies are caused by so called "harmless family dogs " .

You can't control all owners! How do you think this can be done ? Will you monitor every owner of bully breed 24/7? What if they were fine in a first place but their circumstances changed and now they are neglecting this potentially extremely powerful dog? What if they miss the signs of dog's dominating tendencies. Or are we just supposed to patiently wait until another child dies so we can then blame the owner ?

The only way is to ban those dogs. There are endless breeds to chose from. Someone fancying a specific breed should never come before safety of the public.