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To find spending Christmas with my parents and in laws, super boring

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glolap · 07/12/2024 11:56

I wonder if anyone can relate to this and maybe help me work out where I might be going wrong in my behaviour and thinking or if this is just the way it is in most families.

I would say we have quite a 'close knit ' extended family. I see my in laws and BIL/SIL maybe twice a month. My parents live abroad so we don't see them as much, but more for an extended period. All in all I see my family a lot too.

Anyhow. For Christmas we either spend it with my family or in laws.

But I get so bored when everyone is together. I feel like all the conversations are so surface level and that I can't really be myself or have fun.

Last year we hosted in laws and my parents came and when they're all together, it's just entirely about them and the chat is so boring. Even if it's just my parents or just my in laws, I'm bored to tears. My husband feels the same.

BIL and SIL are younger and even though we see them quite frequently, it's all just so surface level and small talk. They don't share much meaningful stuff from their lives it feels and we try but it doesn't really come back, so we also keep it very casual. I know everyone will ask what I mean by surface level and what I'm looking for, but it's hard to describe. It's more just a feeling of being free to chat and not to feel guarded about sharing certain things or talking about certain topics.

I feel with my brother and his wife, we have that friendly / open and honest relationship where we all have a laugh together. But with my parents and in laws and BIL/SIL it feels a bit fake and exhausting.

Anyway, I wish we could spend at least one day at Christmas with friends. I feel like I have much more fun and can just feel relaxed and myself around them. Can anyone relate ? Is it just the way it is with family ?

My husband feels the same.

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glolap · 07/12/2024 13:07

@HazelTiger this post is not about my kids.

Why do I have to lead with the fact I have kids and it's ' odd ' that I don't ?

My kids will see their family at Christmas. They don't need to spend the entire two days with them though.

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Imbusytodaysorry · 07/12/2024 13:08

glolap · 07/12/2024 13:04

She probably doesn't have a problem with spending time with her children. Maybe she'd rather spend the day doing fun stuff with them than having superficial chit chat with other relatives 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yeah I didn't think it was relevant for this thread to put it right in the OP to be honest. The kids love spending time with their family and we do it for them and will continue doing it for them. All I am saying is that we don't need to spend two whole days with everyone and I would love to make my own traditions with my kids and also to see my kids see me having fun too.

I really think you should spend Xmas eve with your own wee family . Make your traditions for when they grow up.
life’s to short to please everyone else . It can never be down anyway .
Do what makes you happy.

glolap · 07/12/2024 13:08

Alondra · 07/12/2024 13:07

I'm much older than you OP. My parents and PIL are long deceased and years ago we moved to Australia because if was beneficial to us all.

I've made good friends in Sydney. Some closer than others but we get together for Christmas Eve dinner. The conversation is not meaningful or emotionally deep. It's nice, lovely and having a good time with people we care about.

If I want to have a serious conversation with a friend, I do it at a different time.

It's not about having a serious conversion. It's about having an interaction which isn't entirely superficial
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glolap · 07/12/2024 13:09

Oh I hear you OP. It's not about deep and meaningful topics necessarily, it's just being able to connect about something, anything.

Exactly that, well put.

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Neveranynamesleft · 07/12/2024 13:11

You are adults, have an adult conversation and tell your family you want to do your own thing this year. Then go and do whatever you want with whoever you want. Maybe your family feel the same way as you do and they may agree it's a good idea to do something different for a change.

glolap · 07/12/2024 13:12

Neveranynamesleft · 07/12/2024 13:11

You are adults, have an adult conversation and tell your family you want to do your own thing this year. Then go and do whatever you want with whoever you want. Maybe your family feel the same way as you do and they may agree it's a good idea to do something different for a change.

No chance they'd ever do anything different. In fact if we mention we want a different set up, they'll be deeply hurt.

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glolap · 07/12/2024 13:12

@HazelTiger yeah my kids have fun. They'd also have fun if we spend Christmas Eve with a family who have kids their age.

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Papayaandlime · 07/12/2024 13:13

I hear you op but speaking for the over sixties who have maybe less energy, just sitting with family and chatting about non controversial subjects having spent a lot of time cooking and cleaning and facilitating Christmas, can be enough and quite comforting. I appreciate that sitting and chatting about inconsequential things is not everyone’s cup of tea though.

This is going to sound horribly patronising but, having been through the mill, we know how lucky we are to be out the other side and sitting chatting in a warm home with enough food and healthy loved ones.
We aren’t necessarily interested in deep conversations because we have had enough drama in rl.

Also, if one family plus a family of in-laws, as with your Christmas last year, come together, they might be very different people, and just trying to keep things ticking along in a non controversial way. If they discussed anything too deep they might discover how little they have in common.

Did you think that last year, your parents and in laws may have felt hemmed in like you do in each other’s company, but were trying to make it work for you and your dh’s sake, so were keeping things light and cordial? What about their happiness?

If you feel hemmed in and want a less formal day then take responsibility for it and facilitate it yourself! An invitation is just that, not an obligation! You can see your family for one day and then go off and spend another day doing something different, why not? It sounds like you see everyone pretty regularly anyway, except your parents, so what’s the problem?

Some of the best Christmases we have had have been where dh and I have stayed in an air BnB near the main event and helped prep and participate in events one day, and done our own thing the next.

Tell everyone that on one day after Boxing Day, a splinter group of you , or you and a group of friends, are going hiking, to a sauna or spa, horse-riding or paint-balling or something, I’m sure the older generation won’t mind, in fact they might appreciate the break in proceedings.

As pp said, Christmas is what you make of it, Obviously, a lot of it is about giving to other people, but if you already see them regularly, you are not obliged to go through the same routines you don’t enjoy year on year. Why not ring the changes and host yourself?

All I would say as a host myself, is that a lot of work and effort go in to shopping, buying and wrapping presents, cleaning, decorating and cooking, and after that; it’s up to our invitees to make the most of it. We are not going to create the entertainment as well apart from suggesting the odd dvd or card game. We expect grown adults to take care of that themselves frankly!

Not everyone is going to like everything about the Christmas we provide and if they really don’t like it, they are very welcome to host and create their own!

Spondoolies · 07/12/2024 13:13

I’m sorry but games is the answer, there are so many types of games there is bound to be something that people can get on board with. Start one off with you and the kids and liven things up! Have a look at Dobble, Cobra Paw type games that anyone can join in but don’t have to ‘perform’ like the charades/pictionary type games.

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Purplecatshopaholic · 07/12/2024 13:15

If you both agree, why on earth are you still doing it. Genuinely don’t get it. Plan something else! Take a holiday? Or just be on your own and catch up at another point? You see both families waaaay more than I see mine already right enough, which is fine if it works for you - but if you don’t enjoy Christmas it’s in your gift to change it.

glolap · 07/12/2024 13:16

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What ?

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Apolloneuro · 07/12/2024 13:18

glolap · 07/12/2024 13:12

No chance they'd ever do anything different. In fact if we mention we want a different set up, they'll be deeply hurt.

Then they’ll just have to be hurt. Without needing to be a dick, obviously, we’re not responsible for the happiness of others.

Today, book a lunch with your mates on Christmas Eve. Tell family you’ll be around for them from the evening of Christmas Eve onwards.

Then, be really present and engaged. Go for quality over quantity.

MaggieBsBoat · 07/12/2024 13:18

Tbh you sound a little combative OP.

You don’t want to discuss ‚marital problems‘ (so nothing that is essentially a struggle for others), you can’t think of anything worse than board games (this is often a good way of just sitting round spending time and communicating), you think everything is superficial but actually you sound so stuck. Maybe you are really boring? Unpleasant?

I find my in-laws tedious but I also recognise that it is fulfilling a need in them and my DH and it’s 2 days. Also if they want to talk about something with me or play a game I would welcome it.

You sound more than mildly judgmental and superior almost. Can’t put my finger on how exactly. Just a feeling.

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GreyCarpet · 07/12/2024 13:18

OP, I agree with the suggestion to spend one day with wider family and the other days with just your family or friends doing what you want.

Have your own Christmas Eve traditions, do their points of Christmas day the way you want to and the guests will fit in around that. If they want to sit and do nothing that's fine. The children will ge the best of both worlds then.

It can feel quite awkward though to be having fun with a sour faced audience.

AgnesX · 07/12/2024 13:19

Surface level chat? Deep and meaningful isn't really for Christmas though is it.

If you find it hard going don't do it.

MrsAga · 07/12/2024 13:19

Shinyandnew1 · 07/12/2024 13:07

A tantrum? I don’t think I would be indulging any tantrums from anyone over about 3.

We do have some friends who are free who we could invite over on Christmas Eve for example.

Do that, then speak to your in laws.

‘Hi, just finalising plans; we have invited Chris and Sue round for Christmas Eve dinner and drinks this year which is exciting. Looking foreword to seeing you and FIL on Christmas Day. Come over at 11am for sherry and festivities!’

If anyone threw a tantrum at that, they can spend Christmas on their own.

This is a good idea. With an added line saying “unless you have other plans this year. Either way is fine, just let us know”

Bright & breezy but firmly stating your plans. Any push backs, just keep repeating “this is what we are doing this year”

Its at your house, so your decision who is there & when. Their decision to join in the part they are invited to or not. Only you can change this.

glolap · 07/12/2024 13:19

@HazelTiger are you saying you don't think we get on well with the family we might spend Christmas Eve with ?

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mindutopia · 07/12/2024 13:21

Yes, it’s so incredibly boring. We have BIL/SIL and MIL every year for Christmas (BIL/SIL stay for a week!). They’d be lovely to meet for lunch. But I’m so bored after a day. They all just sit around the kitchen table and have inane conversations punctuated by brief countryside walks, then more sitting at the table. So many cups of tea. Eventually they move on to the booze. MIL will cry about some deep sadness about their childhood and her failings as a parent. Rinse, repeat. 😩

Last year we had a moderately serious veterinary emergency with some livestock and I was so pleased to be like, right, that’s going to take 3 hours a day every day of my time to manage for next week, off I go! I was strangely grateful. This year, I got cancer and it’s been the saving grace, no one is coming!

I’m going to institute a 3 year rotating ban from here on out. Every 3 years we will host (neither of them will ever host, so we’d only do it every 3 years) and 2 night stay max. There are families who are so much fun. We’ve gone to dh’s aunt and uncle for Christmas and it’s amazing and so much fun there. They have adopted all the many cousins in the family who want to avoid their own parents for Christmas. But I think quite a few people do find it tedious to see family at Christmas. It’s true you can’t choose your family!