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Need a hand hold part 4

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Imbluedalale · 05/12/2024 17:02

Hi spoonies .
Welcome to season 4 xxx

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Nottogetapenny · 05/12/2024 17:52

Hi Laura. I don’t want to lose you, so pleased you have made a new thread! Hope you are over your panic attack. It must of been frightening, especially when you had chest pains. Hopefully you will get some good advice from your care team tomorrow. 😘🌺

nornironlady · 05/12/2024 18:12

@Imbluedalale I'm here and trying not to laugh out loud on the bus at @apolloneuro on the last thread. You crack me right up 😂
I came into town to pick up a pair of boots I had on order. Got some furry Xmas pjs for my son. He said last years were too tight bless him, there's more meat on a chicken wing!

Apolloneuro · 05/12/2024 18:51

I’ve come over here to continue my flounce that I have not been asked to sing lead vocals in the band.

I know all the words and the harmonies to Angels by Robbie Williams AND I did the solo in choir when we did All I Want For Christmas.

so there. 😛

Munchyseeds2 · 05/12/2024 18:55

@Imbluedalale just caught up now that my working week is (sort of) over

I have you are feeling a little better after the panic attack, really scary and in not at all surprised you had one ❤
That the ex is being a twat...why am I not shocked??

All the other lovely spoonies have, as usual, given fantastic advice.
I think, really, you have no choice but to go down the legal route, you also need to report and document all the past events -

I understand why you have desperately tried not to do this,I really do but now I think you have to start fighting the twat with all you have.
You have been as nice and as reasonable as you can be because you are a fantastic mum who what's the best for your kids....unlike him, who will do anything to hurt you, as will his family (because you are an 'outsider??)

How did you end up involved with him??

Never worry about telling us how bad you're feeling lovely, I know we all get it, we just try to hold you up with all our mundane life talk so that you havethe strength to keep going xxx

Munchyseeds2 · 05/12/2024 19:01

@Imbluedalale just wanted to add that if you feel another panic attack lurking, try breathing slowly in and out into a paper bag - this can really help xx

Malbecfan · 05/12/2024 19:32

Ooh @Apolloneuro we are kindred spirits!

Chin up @Imbluedalale . It's all part of Ex's stupid game. It sounds crazy but please just drop the rope. Don't engage with him at all.

I think you should email your DS's school to say that you are concerned that he has not been keeping up with work, and that you do not consent to any further time off. You could perhaps ask if his Head of Year could provide you with activities that you could work through with him over the holidays if you are able to see him. This has the effect of saying "I am a responsible parent who is prepared to put in the effort", without actually being rude about your Ex.

Apolloneuro · 05/12/2024 19:54

@Malbecfan now we know we’re quite close to each other, do you belong to a local choir? Mine closed after Covid.

Malbecfan · 05/12/2024 20:56

No I don't @Apolloneuro as I am an orchestral musician mainly. However, I direct one at school - 3 concerts in 3 days next week....! I have played for a few local choral groups in the past. Are you looking for a choir?

Apolloneuro · 05/12/2024 21:01

Malbecfan · 05/12/2024 20:56

No I don't @Apolloneuro as I am an orchestral musician mainly. However, I direct one at school - 3 concerts in 3 days next week....! I have played for a few local choral groups in the past. Are you looking for a choir?

I really miss my choir. Thing is, I can’t drive at night anymore, blinking aging eyes!

TealPoet · 05/12/2024 21:02

Malbecfan · 05/12/2024 19:32

Ooh @Apolloneuro we are kindred spirits!

Chin up @Imbluedalale . It's all part of Ex's stupid game. It sounds crazy but please just drop the rope. Don't engage with him at all.

I think you should email your DS's school to say that you are concerned that he has not been keeping up with work, and that you do not consent to any further time off. You could perhaps ask if his Head of Year could provide you with activities that you could work through with him over the holidays if you are able to see him. This has the effect of saying "I am a responsible parent who is prepared to put in the effort", without actually being rude about your Ex.

I agree with this! And maybe show that you have somewhere set up in your home as a dedicated study space for him to use when he’s with you so that when you go to court there’s no doubt you are the one providing what he really needs. Huge hugs my sweet 💕

ChoccieCornflake · 05/12/2024 21:39

Hello lovely spoonies, and welcome @MsJinks!

Sorry I disappeared - sadly it was not because I was snapped up to play a leading role at some super-posh perfume advertising house, but because I have the latest bug doing the rounds. All I can smell right now is Eau d'Snot!

@Imbluedalale - I'm so sorry twat-face-ex has found a new way to get at you. Your young lad is clearly a lovely boy though, so while it's really hard right now, I can't imagine your ex will be able to keep him away for long. I would just keep telling him that you love him; tell him you're not sure where ex got the idea about him losing mates, you not being able to look after him, etc, but that ex must have got things mistaken because of course you don't want him to lose mates, miss footie, etc, so you'll work out a way to make it work. Play the long game on this one, as pretty soon your youngest will be able to get himself to things, and ex's views will have no impact!

Massive hugs, and a plague of arse boils on your ex!

RaspberryBeretxx · 05/12/2024 21:50

I’ve just caught up. Oh, I’m so so desperately sorry Laura about your poor boy and his absolute dick of a father (that initially autocorrected to sick and yes - a pile of sick is about right too!). What utter bollocks about his friends, he will be even more exciting to be friends with when he’s in shorter supply! His dad is just clutching at straws to hurt you and because he’s desperate for you to fail. What a despicable human he is. I think that as he’s such a highly abusive man, your children must have some coping mechanisms to deal with him (even if he’s not outwardly abusive to the children) and they may have followed your lead a bit also. So they may feel they have to walk on eggshells and pander to him. It doesn’t mean a huge part of your youngest isn’t desperate to be with you on some level and knows his dad is bullshitting him, it’s just hard to go against what this controlling man says. I know my son is much more worried about his dad’s feelings than mine - frustrating at times but you’re the safe person who will always have unconditional love for them. Don’t lose sight of that although I know it must be horrendously hard not seeing your youngest. No matter what he repeats from his dad, I know he will be feeling that too, keep texting/talking little and often. Be the calm, reasonable voice in his ear. You’re so wonderful, articulate and kind and your son will be missing that even if his dad is messing with his mind just now (or trying to).

do you know if you qualify for legal aid? That might be a good starting point for some advice.

The panic attack sounds really scary but also really understandable that you are going and have gone through so much. having this indirect contact again with your ex and knowing he’s harming your son in this way is bound to be really hard for your brain/body/mind to deal with. I remember seeing something that said when you’re going into a panic attack try and name 5 things you can see, 4 things you can touch, 3 things you can hear, 2 things you can smell and 1 thing you can taste. Just to anchor yourself in the physical.

and please please don’t feel you have to be endlessly positive on these threads! You have made it through so much but we all get there are battles left to fight and we are here for that as well as the crafting, green coats, cats and positivity! There are plenty more hugs left to be given out all round as needed 🤗

oh and I loved the pics you posted on the last thread! It all looks so lovely 💕.

@Apolloneuro that’s so lovely you saw wicked! I’m desperate to see it and trying to work out a time around babysitters etc 🤪. Good to know it’s definitely worth it 😆. Hope you’re feeling ok and the urine infection gets sorted soon.

RaspberryBeretxx · 05/12/2024 21:57

@MsJinks hello 👋. Such great advice for Laura on the last thread and welcome 😁.

sorry to hear you’re not feeling well @ChoccieCornflake . There’s a lot going round at the moment I think!

in other news, my Christmas tree just fell over 🫣 and spilled smelly water all over the rug 🙄. Gave us quite a shock as it’s 6ft tall. We’ve got it back up but the bare bit (no lights/decs) that used to be against the wall is now facing the door to the lounge 🤦🏻‍♀️.

BeNavyCrab · 05/12/2024 23:07

I had a busy day today. It was too wet and windy for my husband to go to work today, so he started off doing the prep for an online safeguarding course. Then we sat down together and started writing the Christmas cards that need posting. He wrote the envelopes while I did the inside of the cards. My daughter phoned me to go through her revision, as she's got an exam on Saturday. It was all about logic related to computer science. She finds things stick in her brain better if she can "info dump" on someone. The Spoonies who have ND kids will understand exactly what I mean. 😜 I can't say that I understood half of what she was talking about and after two hours, I was quite exhausted, but hopefully it's helped her.🤞

@Imbluedalale The pictures of your house are beautiful and it certainly looks very cosy and welcoming.

Imbluedalale · 06/12/2024 05:46

Nottogetapenny · 05/12/2024 17:52

Hi Laura. I don’t want to lose you, so pleased you have made a new thread! Hope you are over your panic attack. It must of been frightening, especially when you had chest pains. Hopefully you will get some good advice from your care team tomorrow. 😘🌺

Hi @Nottogetapenny , happy Friday. How are you today? I’m just sat having a cup of tea at my kitchen table then I think I’m going to get stuck into bridgerton for an hour or 2.
Have you any plans for the weekend? Xx

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Imbluedalale · 06/12/2024 05:49

nornironlady · 05/12/2024 18:12

@Imbluedalale I'm here and trying not to laugh out loud on the bus at @apolloneuro on the last thread. You crack me right up 😂
I came into town to pick up a pair of boots I had on order. Got some furry Xmas pjs for my son. He said last years were too tight bless him, there's more meat on a chicken wing!

Morning @nornironlady , happy Friday.
@Apolloneuro is hilarious isn’t she, she really made me laugh yesterday ‘um excuse me I can sing’ I couldn’t stop laughing 😆
Ohhh I love furry pjs although I can’t wear them at the minute because my mum has out on my bed a fleece sheet, fleece pillows and a fleece huge togg duvet and I’m so hot 🥵xx

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Imbluedalale · 06/12/2024 05:54

Apolloneuro · 05/12/2024 18:51

I’ve come over here to continue my flounce that I have not been asked to sing lead vocals in the band.

I know all the words and the harmonies to Angels by Robbie Williams AND I did the solo in choir when we did All I Want For Christmas.

so there. 😛

Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. That’s made me spit my tea out all over my white tablecloth. 😂😂
You can be lead singer @Apolloneuro , do you think we can rope your son in too if he’s good at singing ?xx

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Imbluedalale · 06/12/2024 06:06

Munchyseeds2 · 05/12/2024 18:55

@Imbluedalale just caught up now that my working week is (sort of) over

I have you are feeling a little better after the panic attack, really scary and in not at all surprised you had one ❤
That the ex is being a twat...why am I not shocked??

All the other lovely spoonies have, as usual, given fantastic advice.
I think, really, you have no choice but to go down the legal route, you also need to report and document all the past events -

I understand why you have desperately tried not to do this,I really do but now I think you have to start fighting the twat with all you have.
You have been as nice and as reasonable as you can be because you are a fantastic mum who what's the best for your kids....unlike him, who will do anything to hurt you, as will his family (because you are an 'outsider??)

How did you end up involved with him??

Never worry about telling us how bad you're feeling lovely, I know we all get it, we just try to hold you up with all our mundane life talk so that you havethe strength to keep going xxx

Good morning @Munchyseeds2 , lovely to hear from you , how are you?good I hope.
I am documenting everything ex has done and is doing , I have already filed police reports re when he hurt me so that’s already on file and the school is aware that I don’t agree with son being taken out of school like he has been. Small little mercies I have been doing too, had a nice long chat with the police yesterday re ex doing things against the law. I’ve never been a tell teller ever but I’m so angry at what he’s doing it did give me a little satisfaction. Also council rang me yesterday to close my homeless case and I may or may not have mentioned that ex and his mum have never paid council tax ooops 🫢.
I really should have listened to every gut instinct Moi I had when I got him , he treated me appallingly with eldest before. People would always pick up on something in not being right as I was never allowed to go to the works Christmas doos nor was I allowed to go to my leaving doo when I moved to branch. I’m stupid for all I put up with but I was scared of leaving because of what he’d do and where I’d go. Well I’ve gone through all that now in the worse way possible and it has made me stronger.
And none of you spoonies talk is mundane , I love hearing about your lives. I just didn’t want anyone thinking I was a fun sponge with more bad news xx

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nornironlady · 06/12/2024 07:03

Good morning Spoonies. Here we are at the end of another week. They seem to be flying right now.
@BeNavyCrab I've just realised I'm a total info dumper so my brain can sort things out! This ND journey is a revelation every single day!
@Imbluedalale all that fleece on the bed! I'd have melted into the sheets by now.
There's been some good advice on here and I really can't do any better. Loved your lack of discretion on the council tax. What goes around.......and all that!!
@RaspberryBeretxx gutted for your poor tree. I hope the water didn't do any damage. My living room floor is covered in bits of tinsel from the cat. There's none on the actual tree. He keeps climbing under the tree skirt to get at the tree so I shouldn't bothered spending 20 quid on that 😂
Have a good Friday ladies. Watch out for storm Darragh!

TealPoet · 06/12/2024 07:41

Laura @Imbluedalale we’re all so proud of you and we’re here for the downs as well as the ups! That’s what friends are for! I love all the advice you’re getting - as always @RaspberryBeretxx is spot on. And loads of us have picked up how good you are at writing - use that now to help you and your children :)

And I’m getting quietly jealous over here - I love to sing too - can we maybe share roles? 😂

@ChoccieCornflake I hope you feel better soon!

Imbluedalale · 06/12/2024 08:24

Malbecfan · 05/12/2024 19:32

Ooh @Apolloneuro we are kindred spirits!

Chin up @Imbluedalale . It's all part of Ex's stupid game. It sounds crazy but please just drop the rope. Don't engage with him at all.

I think you should email your DS's school to say that you are concerned that he has not been keeping up with work, and that you do not consent to any further time off. You could perhaps ask if his Head of Year could provide you with activities that you could work through with him over the holidays if you are able to see him. This has the effect of saying "I am a responsible parent who is prepared to put in the effort", without actually being rude about your Ex.

Morning @Malbecfan , happy Friday, how’s your morning going?
I’m trying to keep my chin up as much as I can. Trying not to dwell on it too much until my son comes back from Liverpool and I’m hoping it will be Sunday or Monday . But I’m not saying too much to youngest about that now as if ex finds out I’m looking forward to him coming back he’ll probably keep him there for longer just to spite me so got to stay quiet. I’m taking all your advice on playing the long game.
I’ve just been looking outside my windows for last 40 mins waiting for bin men as I put my main bin out last week and was washing the pots when they came so could see them out of the window and the guy opened my lid and looked in and just left it! So I was ready for them this week , slippers and dressing gown on and spoon in hand for my recycling bin but lucky for them they emptied it properly this time.
I am going to call the school this morning and ask to speak to the head and the safeguard and ask what support I can give my son to help him catch up with missed work .
Thank you for your great advice xx

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Apolloneuro · 06/12/2024 08:42

Morning gorgeousnesses

If you think how far you’ve come in a couple of months, Laura, think what Christmas 2025 and 2026 are going to be like!

On amber alert for wind down here (ooh matron). My friend and I have cancelled plans to go out tomorrow. Not worth the risk. I don’t like the wind. It scares me. Hubby has gone round weighing down all our garden furniture.

The cat is frightened by wind, so I’ll keep her inside.

@TealPoet shall we form a spice girl tribute act? @Malbecfan can be MD. Who do you want to be?

Munchyseeds2 · 06/12/2024 08:51

@Imbluedalale we use the fleece bedding when we are camping in the winter... lovely as it is there's no way I could put it all on our bed, I would be a sweaty mess!!😂😂
Have a good day lovely...it will all come good in the endxx

@BeNavyCrab the diary for your mum is lovely.
Well done for doing the cards, I'm not that organised and will be found frantically doing them having missed the posting dates.....its the same every year!

Nottogetapenny · 06/12/2024 08:56

Good Morning and a happy Friday to you all!
i’m fine, today I’m going to wrap a few Christmas presents up. I’ve still got a few to get. But I’m pleased with myself, as I normally have very little by now.

Later today, we are going to a holiday cottage with family and staying over for the weekend. We intend to go to a few Christmas markets, and go to a lovely pub for Sunday Lunch.

I’m so proud of you and your ‘little slip’ to the council! Hope they charge the bastard and his family loads. Also it’s good to hear you have kept the police up to date, and given them more information. And ringing your sons school shows what a good and responsible parent you are, and what a waste of space your X is, as he doesn’t have your sons best interest at heart but using him to score points against you!

Hope you have a much better day, enjoy Bridgerton and most of all believe what we spoonies tell you, you are an amazing mum. 😘🌺

Imbluedalale · 06/12/2024 08:58

TealPoet · 05/12/2024 21:02

I agree with this! And maybe show that you have somewhere set up in your home as a dedicated study space for him to use when he’s with you so that when you go to court there’s no doubt you are the one providing what he really needs. Huge hugs my sweet 💕

Thank you @TealPoet , how are you today? Did you manage to sleep?
I am getting youngest a bed with a desk underneath so he can do his homework on there although I’m hoping he will do it in the kitchen with me sat next to him and I’m saying all that hoping that he will still stay here . But I’m tired of ex trying to bring me down all the time so I’m using all my reserve strength to stay propped up and I’m trying to be positive. I don’t want my mum worrying and I don’t want to make her poorly again so I made sure to ring her last night and this morning and sounding really positive and she sounded relieved so that’s one less worry xx

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