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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Or is this Santa post unreasonable?

358 replies

BusySyllabub · 05/12/2024 05:38

The author of gentle parenting books Sarah Ockwell Smith posted on Instagram that it’s best to never pretend that Santa is real.

I did some research on this just to be sure and discovered research that indicated that very few children are adversely affected by the Santa myth.

AIBU to think that we are overthinking everything, taking the magic out of childhood, and that educators are now posting nonsense for clicks and engagement?

Or is this Santa post unreasonable?
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CulturalNomad · 08/12/2024 16:58

The 'magic' stopping is more likely not related to Santa but to children growing up and getting older and ageing out of that initial kind of Christmas 'magic' age generally, which is where they perhaps aren't as interested in all the Christmas stuff us parents like to think is magical

I agree. It's completely normal for some kids to start getting bored with big family holiday events as they get older. Not so interested anymore in the pre-Christmas activities and family outings that they enjoyed when they were younger. They become more friend-oriented and less "let's drink cocoa and look at Christmas lights!".

For some parents that means the " magic " is gone.

And then there are people who love the holidays and everything to do with Christmas their entire lives. It will always be magical to them. Nothing wrong with that either😀

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 08/12/2024 17:01

StrawberrySquash · 08/12/2024 15:01

Children who grow up in healthy families understand the difference between bad, damaging lies and lies told for fun and magic.

I’d never call the FC thing a ‘lie’ though. It’s a benevolent sort of fib, a bit like the sort of what is called ‘love lies’ for people with dementia, when telling them the truth is only going to cause a lot of distress - when they’re going to forget whatever you say so quickly anyway. (I have too much experience of using those!😩)

Sometimeswinning · 08/12/2024 17:40

TunipTheVegimal24 · 08/12/2024 16:33

Sorry, there was a whole debate with another poster. I love Santa and having my toddlers believe!

The person I disagreed with, was saying that believing in Santa, and believing in God, were both an example of believing in a lie. So if a family chose to be truthful about Santa not existing, because they didn't agree with lying, they would also have to be "truthful" that God didn't exist. Then they were pretending to not understand why they were totally different and unrelated situations, or why equating them was rude (and ignorant) 🙄

I’ve not read anywhere that anyone says you can’t be honest about Santa if you’re religious. I said they are similar untruths. Blind faith, a proportion of the world believes whereas others know it’s not true.

Religion is a debatable subject. You can say you don’t believe. It’s not rude (or ignorant) 🙄

Ukrainebaby23 · 09/12/2024 21:55

You're gonna tell me the car park fairy is a myth too ....

Don't expect to find a space tomorrow!

TheignT · 10/12/2024 17:20

Ukrainebaby23 · 09/12/2024 21:55

You're gonna tell me the car park fairy is a myth too ....

Don't expect to find a space tomorrow!

Well the car park fairy never looks after me. I'm still worrying about granddads leprechauns. After he died the house was demolished as part of a road improvement scheme, where would the leprechauns have gone?

JHound · 10/12/2024 17:23

I think it’s for individual parents to decide.

goodkidsmaadhouse · 10/12/2024 20:52

doodleschnoodle · 08/12/2024 16:52

The one thing I've discovered through this whole thing which I hadn't really thought of pre-kids is the sheer level of suspension of disbelief and the elaborateness of the stories required to maintain the belief for some kids, and I think that's maybe what my problem with it is as I was comfortable enough when the belief was vague enough and didn't require any details.

Maybe I just have a very sceptical child, but in order to answer her very reasonable questions in a way that would stop her asking them, I would need to come up with very elaborate stories, and that's the point at which I found myself feeling uncomfortable about it. Which surprised me as I never thought I'd be one of 'those' parents about Santa, but responding to her genuine questions with nonsense left me feeling really grotty about it.

Unfortunately 'what do you believe/think?' doesn't buy much time in this house either, DD1 wants to know how stuff works and doesn't like being fobbed off with that technique!

Ultimately I'm probably a bit relieved about it as I did sort of dread whenever she piped up with a question about it. DD2 doesn't really like Santa so far so we may just avoid it altogether with her. Seems a bit pointless trying to push it when she hates the sight of the guy!

These are exactly my feelings.

NewHere83 · 29/12/2024 19:39

BusySyllabub · 05/12/2024 06:13

Interesting to hear everyone’s thoughts. I remember by 5 I didn’t “believe” in Santa but I definitely believed in fairies at the bottom of my garden 🤷‍♀️

I’m not sure how I’ll respond when my child asks if Santa is real, but I find it over the top for a parenting expert to suggest we should go out of our way to tell children he’s not real. It just feels like a way to boost engagement on Instagram and after realising there has been research on this topic that indicates the myth is not damaging at all for the overwhelming majority of kids, it makes me sad that someone with influence is giving poor advice.

She actually doesn't recommend this though. If you read her full post on the matter, she says there's no such thing as a "gentle parenting approach to santa", you can have him or not have him, each to their own, but for those interested this is what she did in her house. What's so offensive about that??

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