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Pissed off DH dismisses my name ideas

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Plum02 · 01/12/2024 20:42

Currently pregnant with DC1. My favourite boys name since I was a child was “Sebastian” which he knew before I was even pregnant. He said he hated it - couldn’t give a reason, to the point where it felt like he’d once said that so felt like he had to double down.

I’m now pregnant with a girl and I’ve spent a lot of time researching and coming up with name ideas. It just so happens every name I like DH apparently “hates”. So far I’ve suggested seven names I love:

  • Margot - ugly, hates it
  • Ophelia - horrible, hates it
  • Clementine - awful, hates it
  • Octavia - cars name, ridiculous
  • Etta - doesn’t even sound like a real name, awful
  • Penelope - sounds old fashioned, hates it

A few days ago I came across (and fell in love with) the name Ottilie. It’s unusual but classic, feminine and pretty. I thought it would be uncontroversial! I told him I’d found another name I love and before I even told him what it was he was rolling his eyes like “oh god, here we go”. Before I told him I said “you don’t have to respond straight away when I tell you, just take some time to think about it” - thinking that his automatic reaction seems to be to dismiss the names I suggest but if he thinks about it he might actually like it!

Of course as soon as I said it he said it he said “that is awful, I’m not calling my child otter”. I said “it’s Ottilie, the NN could be Tilly” then he starts telling a story about a pregnant 17 year old called Tilly (he has a public facing job).

He says I’m over-reacting to be annoyed just because he doesn’t like a name but I feel utterly depressed. He brings nothing to the table but it feels like before I even suggest something he’s made his mind up not to like it which feels so disrespectful. I also want to have a name I love, not just settle for something and it feels like I’ve exhausted all those names having gone through thousands to pick out the ones I love.

I feel like most men would be so much more laid back about girl’s names and let their wife take the lead, unless it’s something they truly hate - but how can he truly hate every name I come up with!

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Grammarnut · 06/12/2024 14:53

StormingNorman · 06/12/2024 10:41

Exactly. My hairdresser is called Margot. And my local mechanic is called Hugo!

Edited

Your mechanic is probably better off than many on this board, too.

CovertPiggery · 06/12/2024 17:06

StormingNorman · 06/12/2024 10:41

Exactly. My hairdresser is called Margot. And my local mechanic is called Hugo!

Edited

faints in middle class

Delatron · 06/12/2024 17:44

I like your names but I can also see why your DH doesn’t. Mine wouldn’t. We had a similar issue for our second boy when let’s say I came up with some more unusual choices that he vetoed all but never suggested any back.

My tactic was to keep on at him with loads of names. We had no agreement still when the baby arrived. He was named 3 days later when we finally agreed on a name. It is annoying!

Grammarnut · 06/12/2024 22:58

Nanny0gg · 05/12/2024 22:50

No-one's heard of Etta James then?

The short form of a name is a diminutive e.g. Jim for James, or Johnny for John (diminutives are not necessarily shorter). A nickname is an addition that means something e.g. Henry Curtmantel for Henry II, suggesting he was short (curtmantel means short cloak) i.e. Henry II was known as 'shorty'. Sometimes it denotes a quality e.g. William the Lion of Scotland, presumably he was/hoped to be brave as a lion. Occasionally it's another name e.g. my FiL (who I never met) was known as 'Jack' but his name was Albert. My previous FiL, whose name was Kantilal, was known by all as Motobhai, meaning 'big brother'.

nutbrownhare15 · 06/12/2024 23:36

I would tell him I'm really fed up with his dismissive, lazy attitude. That you are 33 weeks and need to get this sorted as got might not be in the right place to after birth. That he needs to come up with a list of several names to discuss in the next 24 hours. And to stop.being so horrible to his pregnant wife.

Grammarnut · 07/12/2024 10:54

Plum02 · 05/12/2024 17:14

You obviously haven’t watched only fools and horses. That’s all I can think of when I hear Cassandra 😂

You obviously haven't read the Illiad or Agammemnon. (And I have watched Only Fools and Horses).

MisoMouse · 08/12/2024 16:46

StormingNorman · 06/12/2024 10:41

Exactly. My hairdresser is called Margot. And my local mechanic is called Hugo!

Edited

Yes, my window cleaner is called Theo, my gardener is Hugo and my tree surgeon is Sebastien (with an e) . My doctor is called Dan and our solicitor is Tracy. Go figure.

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 00:19

9999problems · 01/12/2024 22:23

Can you ask your DH to sit down and make a list of his favourite 10 girl's names? Perhaps see if there are any you could work with? Making a list each was the starting point for me and DH when choosing our DD's name. It wasn't easy because he's a teacher and so many names had bad connotations. Plus, our surname is a noun (think Wood), so any first names that were also adjectives, such as Scarlett and Ruby were vetoed.

I'm relieved we didn't have a boy, because his list was atrocious, including Kubo, Ragnar and Hector!

My Husband added Ragnar to our cats long list of middle names. it works.
The Ineffable Prince Crowley George Grimalkin Ragnar Merkin de Flurken.

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 00:33

Plum02 · 01/12/2024 22:36

I haven’t taken his surname so DC’s surname is still up for debate too! I’d like to double-barrel but he thinks it’s far too long, which I do agree with as his surname is two syllables and mine three. I’d be happy to have his as the day-to-day surname for ease and mine as more of a middle name. I was thinking once we’ve agreed on a first name we could see what sounds best and that might make it easier to agree on a solution!

we are childfree by choice, and I've recently been referred to have my tubes tied, but in our 24 years together, the discussion has come up. we agreed IF it ever happened, they would have my double barreled surname. husband loves his Moroccan ex work colleagues name of Saber. I don't have strong opinions on boys names. most of them seem a bit dull to me, and that's as good as any.
for a girl, I would want Lyra. husband, big star wars geek would want Organa as a middle name
and Lyra and Leia aren't THAT different/

BUT. unlikely to ever happen, as hopefully one or the other of us will soon be infertile.

9999problems · 09/12/2024 01:30

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 00:19

My Husband added Ragnar to our cats long list of middle names. it works.
The Ineffable Prince Crowley George Grimalkin Ragnar Merkin de Flurken.

I agree, Ragnar works.

Fortunately, I did not give birth to a cat.😁

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 01:42

Mirabai · 01/12/2024 23:54

As is Garyanne.

and Spudulika.

thing47 · 09/12/2024 16:35

Why Lyra @CrowleyKitten , whats the origin of that?

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 19:00

adriftinadenofvipers · 02/12/2024 00:17

They're awful and pretentious!! And the OP's DH doesn't like that style of name???

exactly. suggesting names in the same style of the ones husband clearly dislikes isn't useful. OP needs to be looking at other styles of name until they find one they can agree on. but more of the same isn't going to solve anything.

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 19:05

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 02/12/2024 00:56

To be fair I was quite keen on Phaedra, which as outcomes go is possibly worse than Ophelia's.

Phaedra is better, but they'd forever be having it mispronounced or having to spell it.

Farmwifefarmlife · 09/12/2024 19:30

I think they are lovely classic names , I had this with my DDs names, when she was born the midwife asked her name I said name DH is that what we are calling her I said yes and that was the end of the conversation!

Balloonhearts · 09/12/2024 20:10

I think I'd just put my foot down. I want your 10 favourite girls names by Saturday or her name is Ottilie. You can't keep shooting down everything I suggest but not contributing any alternatives.

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 20:25

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/12/2024 14:44

You think that in 2035 around 1000 eleven year old girls are going to be bullied at secondary school for being called Margot, the 59th most popular name in the UK right now?

Really?

Edited to say, bloody hell, even Ophelia and Ottilie are well inside the top 100 right now. They're way more common than Sarah right now and not much less common than Emma.

Edited

there were FIVE Emmas in my class at Primary school in the 80s. I was always the only Sheena. (Scottish name, but my mum first heard it in the Ramones song, Sheena is a punk rocker, and loved the name.)
I was bullied for a lot of things, but having an unusual name wasn't ever one of them.

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 20:44

Msrachel · 03/12/2024 21:32

I’d ask him to come up with 10 that he likes, and you’ll be able to gauge the types of names that he likes and hopefully then find some that you both like.

If he doesn’t come up with any, he loses his veto rights!

I like the names you’ve chosen, not that that’s the point. I named my twins 20 months ago and remember the pain of finding some we both liked!

A couple of ideas, hopefully along a similar vibe but you never know what he/you may end up liking. Mabel, Thea, Ada, Eloise, Elodie, Felicity, Elspeth, Violet.

Elodie always makes me think of the pondweed we used to do science experiments with at school.

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 20:51

BunnyLake · 04/12/2024 13:49

I think it’s interesting how David and Dave sound like they come from different social backgrounds. I’m not sure if there are any other full names that seem so downgraded by their abbreviation. In my opinion, of course.

it's funny how some abbreviations work and some don't for different people. my husband is a Richie. I literally cannot see him as a Rick or a Ricky. he's DEFINITELY a Richie. his sisters sometimes call him Dicky or Dikdik (because he's a little dear. boom boom) but Richie is what suits him. Rick or Ricky seem like completely different names.

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 20:58

Grammarnut · 05/12/2024 14:08

For what it's worth, now, I think Cassandra Ottoline is good for a girl. Beautifully classical (and Cassandra was always right) and Ottoline Morell influenced many early twentieth-century writers and artists including Dora Carrington. As a second choice Octavia (after Octavia Hill, National Trust) Margaret (after Margaret Miller who led a 30s campaign to allow married women to continue to work).
NB Ottoline is pronounced Ottoleen.
NB2: Anna and Emma are equally middle-class names.

Edited

Cassandra might be a good option. my mum is a Carolyn, and has always gone by Cassy. it's a fancy name, but has a more casual abbreviation.

JudgeJ · 09/12/2024 21:05

Americano75 · 01/12/2024 20:46

I love Clementine to be honest. What names has he managed to come up with?

No, all I can hear is Oh my darling, oh my darling, oh my darling Clementine!

JudgeJ · 09/12/2024 21:22

That’s the sad reality of living in a country rife with inequality.

Grown ups know that that's almost every country, sorry to burst your bubble of prejudice!

CrowleyKitten · 09/12/2024 21:40

thing47 · 09/12/2024 16:35

Why Lyra @CrowleyKitten , whats the origin of that?

it's an older name than where I first discovered it, but it's the name of the main character in the His Dark Materials trilogy, where I first read it. and I just think it's a beautiful name. I named one of my rats Lyra. (partly because her and her sister Pan, we went to Oxford from Cornwall to collect them, as they were a rare variety} I just think it's such a pretty name.

thing47 · 10/12/2024 12:42

Thanks. I only asked because I know a Lyra but have never heard of anyone else with that name. She loves her name (as do I, fwiw), but she would only warn that most people just assume it’s Lara with an ‘a’

Icannoteven · 10/12/2024 12:50

Those are some pretty marmite seeming names and all are of a similar style. I’m not sure what he is supposed to say to that tbh. If he doesn’t like them, he doesn’t like them.

try making a list together.