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To judge friend's approach to Christmas?

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NoisyDenimShaker · 01/12/2024 07:26

I'm desperately trying not to judge my friend, who keeps talking about how much she loves spending Christmas only with her husband and kids. I don't have kids, so perhaps I just don't understand. But I feel I've watched her turn into someone I'm finding more and more difficult to respect. Here's the situation: Her parents are dead now, but when they both had terminal cancer, a few years apart, she wouldn't invite them for Christmas. Even when her mum was terminal and widowed, she wouldn't invite her. The mum did have a companion, but she was desperate to spend Christmas with her daughter and four young grandchildren the last two Christmases of her life. She was terminally ill for both of those Christmases, although the cancer hadn't yet overwhelmed her and she could have travelled. Anyway, it didn't happen, because she wasn't invited.

My friend also has a sister whose husband had an affair, and the sister will be alone this year since the parents are gone and her husband is with OW, but she won't invite her sister. (When I say alone, she'll probably have invitations since the sister is cool, but she has no family left to spend it with.) Neither will she inviter her in-laws, who live nearby and are old and one is terminally ill.

She gets on fine with all those family members, whom I know are deeply hurt, as our families know each other and go way back. What she says to me is that she just wants to spend Christmas with her husband and kids.

So my question for all the parents here is this: When you have kids, is it understandable to just spend it with the husband and kids. even when various family members are dying and/or alone? That they grow up so fast, and in the blink of an eye, they'll have their own partners and Christmas will change forever? So you want to have Christmases alone with your spouse and kids while you can?

I'm just really trying to understand, because friend keeps talking with glee about how she's having the Christmas she wants, and I'm having difficulty not judging.

I don't have kids, so perhaps my friend is being totally reasonable and it's what all parents want - just to be alone with their spouse and kids at Christmas? Maybe my friend is not being unreasonable?

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Sceptical123 · 01/12/2024 18:47

Gorgonemilezola · 01/12/2024 07:30

It'll be interesting to see how your friend reacts in 20 years when her own kids just want to spend Christmas with their partner and children and she's excluded. Because her kids will have learned that this is how you do Christmas.

Exactly. She’ll deserve it I’m afraid.

Sageteatowels · 01/12/2024 18:53

So it seems as though she might have social anxiety, and that's why she doesn't want anyone for Christmas. That is pretty sad, if true. I'm quite shocked she would leave people alone at Christmas. If she has a mental health issue, it would be better if she got help with it.

I can see this is upsetting for you, OP. Does it hit a nerve, if you are alone as well? It's ok if it does.

RawBloomers · 01/12/2024 19:00

TheSingingBean · 01/12/2024 18:42

I wonder whether it has occurred to her that she is setting herself up for her own children doing exactly the same to her when they have their own families.

Maybe she likes the idea that her own children will make sure they have a happy Christmas and she intends to keep making sure she has a happy Christmas when they leave home too.

The idea that what she will want in the future is to have the sort of extended family Christmas she doesn’t want now - even though she’d be in a different role - seems like a huge stretch.

BIossomtoes · 01/12/2024 19:24

RawBloomers · 01/12/2024 19:00

Maybe she likes the idea that her own children will make sure they have a happy Christmas and she intends to keep making sure she has a happy Christmas when they leave home too.

The idea that what she will want in the future is to have the sort of extended family Christmas she doesn’t want now - even though she’d be in a different role - seems like a huge stretch.

It tends to be what happens.

RawBloomers · 01/12/2024 20:50

That really hasn’t been my experience.

My own parents and quite a lot of my friends’ parents have turned down invitations to Christmas to stay home and do something low key or fly off to sunnier climes. I don’t think it’s a natural progression with age from liking a Christmas that’s just your nuclear family to wanting an extended family one.

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