To want the tea on Gregg Wallace? 👀👀👀

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Apologies if there is already a thread on this?

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Looks like people have really been waiting on his downfall 🤭🤭

(Obviously, I know it's a serious matter for those who've been victimised by the guy, not being dismissive of them)

Just seems like he's really pissed off his fellow celebs

Yes being predominantly middle class women of a certain age we obviously would have an issue with him.

Not sure who he thinks watches Masterchef and are his target audience.

I’m really not happy about people (including well-known people) who are now arguing the world’s moved on and GW didn’t catch up.

He’s a v similar age to me. His alleged and evidenced behaviour has never been acceptable my entire working life. In fact, since I started working at 13 (in a newsagent) I’ve had to challenge sexual harassment at work on numerous occasions. And I’ve worked in all sectors (private, public and voluntary) and lots of different workplaces: kitchens, factories, offices, film sets, Parliament.

In fact, it was in September 1983 that an industrial tribunal first ruled sexual harassment was sex discrimination (under 1975 Sex Discrimination Act).

A young female executive (Miss Walsh) was sacked because she slapped a company director and poured lager over him following his behaviour towards her at an office party. Her legal costs were supported by the Equal Opportunities Commission, who said: ‘We are very pleased at the result, because now if women are harassed at work they have some protection’. Miss Walsh told reporters of the ‘emotional strain’: ‘I am just happy I won and I hope it will help other women in the same position’ (Daily Mail, 9 Sept 1983).

Latest position now for anyone who thinks they might be being sexually harassed at work: https://www.acas.org.uk/sexual-harassment.

I for one, am proud to be a middle class woman of a certain age. Because it means I’ve seen quite enough of this type of rubbish to be able to spot it a mile off and call it out and make it better for others in the future.

His behaviour and continued social media updates are those of a prize wazzock.

@Mysterychinhairs 👏👏👏. If you've got a sec would you have a bash at running the country too please!

https://news.sky.com/story/gregg-wallace-claims-tip-of-the-iceberg-former-masterchef-contestant-claims-13264535

Allegations against Gregg Wallace are just the "tip of the iceberg", a former MasterChef contestant has told Sky News - claiming he witnessed a "toxic environment" and was so "horrified" he considered quitting the show on his first day.

He alleged the "abuse" of contestants was widespread through the "production team", but was too scared to speak out after signing a non-disclosure agreement.

The contestant, who did not wish to be identified, told Sky's arts and entertainment correspondent Katie Spencer: "I was horrified. I'd never seen anything like it, genuinely, I was really quite shocked at that really toxic environment.

"What I witnessed... as a contestant was that there was a systemic problem that was larger than just him, in my view.

"Gregg... would occasionally crack jokes that in different ways felt inappropriate but he wasn't the only one."

AND

In terms of the language he claimed he witnessed, he said Wallace was "the least offensive".

"I mean, there was effings and c and twats and all sorts and that that was the kind of language you kind of got used to, particularly from some of the camera crew, but also a couple of the producers too. He was the least sweary person," he said.

"I think I got off pretty lightly, but I'd see the other contestants and just [be] thinking I would have been very upset if that person had that said that to me."

When asked by Spencer if the camera crew and directors were involved, he replied: "Producers as well... it wasn't everybody, of course, and some people I thought were incredibly respectful and very professional. So it certainly wasn't everyone, but there was certainly people from all levels of the organisation.

"It was all men... I don't think I ever witnessed any of the women taking part in it. I think there was a kind of disconnection within the team at large... between some of the men and the women."

I often think the TV companies get confused when talking about "the talent".

Eg, the programmes that Greggggg presents have decent viewing figures, but it's not because of Gregggg.

So, yes, those programmes bring in loads of viewers but it's usually because of which timeslot they're on.

Another example is Dan Walker. He was extremely popular on BBC Breakfast, and left to join Channel 5. However, he didn't take 4 million viewers with him, and conversely Breakfast didn't lose millions of viewers as a result of him leaving

IACGMOOH didn't lose viewers when Ant was off. But it lost viewers when they were based in Wales, I believe.
I.e. how much of what makes them the money is directly attributed to the presenters?

@RedToothBrush Gregg... would occasionally crack jokes that in different ways felt inappropriate but he wasn't the only one.

Interesting, so the whole show sounds quite toxic. Wonder if that explains the radio silence from certain quarters 🤔

It raises questions.

Certainly does...

How do you know I'm not autistic. Autistic people can find it hard to understand other people's emotions. It's not an excuse. It doesn't make it OK. It does provide context. That's all.

I think it is really hard to pull men up on words and actions as you're basically accusing them of being sex pests. I had an appointment with an osteopath who made me feel incredibly uncomfortable when I was laid on the table and I am 99.9% sure he pushed up against me when I was stood up with an erect penis. If I'd said something and it wasn't I'd be accusing him. I do feel a decent man wouldn't mind and would apologise anyway. If he was doing it then I could have put myself in danger by saying something.

I told the receptionist, aged 70 to my mid 40s who said he's always been fine with me. I told two other staff members, one who was his wife but I didn't know, and both said nothing. Both a bit younger than me/15 years younger.

Clearly never allowed him to see me or my kids again and only stayed at the clinic as it is the one we've been going to for years and the women are very good.

I've been thinking about this a lot - and I'm so angry. Why are men allowed to get away with this shit? Why aren't other men taught to stand up and call it out? I did my annual mandatory training at work last week, and the module on sexual harassment was pitiful. There was nothing about being an upstander instead of a bystander, nothing saying if you witness this happen to someone else call it out. It just said to make notes and speak to your manager. There really is a pervasive culture of silence.

It's also made me think a lot about a friend's husband. He's a horrible disgusting man, very much like Wallace. If we meet at her house he'll find reasons to come into the room to interrupt - and ask things like - " Which of you girls is going to go home and get laid tonight then?" "Can I ask, do any of you completely shave down there, I like just a trim". "How did you know you were gay, have you ever had sex with a man?" "We tried anal once didn't we babe, I prefer the normal way - have you all had anal sex".
I can't contain my disgust but 3 of our group say they think he's "funny". My poor friend rolls her eyes and pushes him out of the room and will just say "so sorry girls, you know what he's like".

There are men like this all around us.

@snapdragontoadflax i'm
not sure pop bitch an be relied upon any more. they recently published a totally untrue story about paddy mcguiness and then massively backtracked and issued an apology. the story had been total fiction

Was that the one about him staying in a hotel during his recent charity bike ride? He was very quick with legal threats then, which is easy to do when you’re innocent.

When people don’t immediately threaten legally it does make me wonder. I mean, they shouldn’t have lies published about them, but you know what I mean.

I think everyone should complain to the BBC to let them see the force of feeling about this. I've just done so. They haven't changed since Savile.

I had a friend whose husband in the same. I barely see her now because of him. He is creepy. One of his favourites is, “Don’t stay too late, Helen and I are having sex later, don’t want an audience, so you’d have to join in. Haha!”.

No, no, no. We have to stop with the autism = no concept of emotion. Speaking about sex or comments of anything about that nature when it’s not warranted or uncalled for in the WORKPLACE is not autism it’s misogynist, rude and entitled.

Being autistic doesn’t mean you can’t learn either, if you’ve gotten something wrong once innocently and have to be told hey this isn’t appropriate, as a functioning respectful person in society you just wouldn’t at all try to do it again.

Its far from a misunderstanding, it’s making women feel uncomfortable, it’s a feeling that he’s superior, it’s so blatant.

The video he has just done says it all, but it should never have been questioned anyway. He thinks of women and their feeling as lower than him. But that’s nothing to do with autism!

I thought the way they phrased the apology was VERY interesting.... gave the vibe of 'we accept what his team says' without actually saying they believe it

Interestingly I saw a clip from Great British Bake Off yesterday and Pru Leith was asking a contestant "can we talk about your Beaver". Now they had made beaver cakes but it was said very much in the way of a double entrendre, Paul and the other 2 were pissing themselves. It carried on with a "oh I think you beaver is quite dry, I don't like dry beaver" type comments.

Nobody is hanging Pru Leith or Noel out to dry.

It's hard to put a finger on Why Greggggg's stuff feels worse (but I think it does). Maybe because some reports of it are off camera comments where there's no need to have those sort of conversations? It's not gags for TV? But I do think all TV shows need to be careful......even if the contestant on GBBO was OK with it (and she might have been too scared to say she wasn't) it sets a poor tone about what is and what isn't acceptable.

I think it's different as a man can physically hurt a woman in a completely different way to a woman hurting a man.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/breaking-gregg-wallace-touched-masterchef-34225851.amp

@DanielaDressen It's hard to put a finger on Why Greggggg's stuff feels worse.

Maybe because this?

Dean Banks apparently not defending him while saying Gregg is a joker and his jokes were harmless.

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/fife/5136265/gregg-wallace-masterchef-dean-banks/?utmsource=Sailthru&utmmmedium=email&utmcampaign=Courier%20-%20Daily%20Newsletter%20V2%202024-12-02&utmmterm=Courier%20Newsletter

Re bake off, I didn’t see it but these things are pre-recorded and edited, so imo they should take it out if the contestant (or anyone) is being humiliated, made to feel uncomfortable or objects. The GW “tart” clip where the contestant obviously thought he’d crossed a line and he was clearly being aggressive is an example of something they should edit out (as well as warning/sacking him).

But double entendre in itself is not bad if everyone is going along with it and it’s not about targeting someone. Loads of comedy and chat shows do it well. Soggy bottom is a classic DE that’s pretty overused now but in itself it’s not bad - but if the host aggressively targeted it at the contestant and was obviously making it about sex act that’s when it’s not on. Plus IMO any contestant should be able tell producers if they’re uncomfortable with something like that and don’t want it aired.

Yes but Noel and Paul joined in

Thanks. I hadn’t seen he’d been accused of physical stuff too. Initially it was all about comments. That’s a sexual assault allegation so hopefully the police will investigate.