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To say no, as I was an afterthought

157 replies

SkunderlaiSkendi · 25/11/2024 12:11

I went to visit my Mum last week

Whilst there, she mentioned that her and my two siblings (along with their partners and kids) had booked a xmas meal

I was then invited - in her words- ''if we can change the booking''

Me and OH have made very loose plans that involve staying home and would have loved to have gone, but the fact we are an afterthought has pissed me off to such an extent I have said no

AIBU? - clearly it matters not to anyone if me and my husband are there or not?

OP posts:
AcrossthePond55 · 25/11/2024 15:40

SkunderlaiSkendi · 25/11/2024 13:06

Well I could indeed, but this isn't the question I asked here

I am not really sure I will ask, as the message is there loud and clear. No amount of 'oversight' will make up for forgetting you have 3 kids not 2

Edited

I'd ask because If nothing else, I'd want to make my mother explain to me why I wasn't included.

I'd want to know if there was some 'issue' with me that I didn't know about. Did I offend someone? Did I give the impression that I wasn't interested it being part of the family?

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 15:40

SkunderlaiSkendi · 25/11/2024 12:59

It could be a snub for this, but even the wedding i got the impression that the soon to be married sibling made it hard for our side of the family to attend

It was a strange one to be honest - so the whole family were only told six days before the impending nuptuals and neither me nor my other sibling went - as we both work full time and cannot get time off with less than a week notice

The only one who went was Mum , but shes retired

And you don’t think there’s a back story?! 😆

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 15:43

You have a terminal illness according to another thread?

Maddy70 · 25/11/2024 15:44

I would suggest that they booked it to get in and had to pay then asked you if you wanted to join them so would add additional people. You werent an afterthought they didn't want to pressure you

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 25/11/2024 15:47

SkunderlaiSkendi · 25/11/2024 12:11

I went to visit my Mum last week

Whilst there, she mentioned that her and my two siblings (along with their partners and kids) had booked a xmas meal

I was then invited - in her words- ''if we can change the booking''

Me and OH have made very loose plans that involve staying home and would have loved to have gone, but the fact we are an afterthought has pissed me off to such an extent I have said no

AIBU? - clearly it matters not to anyone if me and my husband are there or not?

If you would enjoy it - then accept.

Do you think that they wouldn't enjoy your company?
Is there any reason why they wouldn't?

If family organised something - and then asked me - I wouldn't be offended or worried that they perferred me not to go. I'd assume that they thought me busy - or that they just hadn't got around to asking me.

Your feelings about this suggest that you do not feel confident of their love . You are seeing in this a confirmation of being 'second' in their affections.
Do you have any other reason for feeling this?

Maddy70 · 25/11/2024 15:50

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 15:43

You have a terminal illness according to another thread?

Wow... did you mean to come across thia rudely?

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 15:51

Maddy70 · 25/11/2024 15:50

Wow... did you mean to come across thia rudely?

the op says there’s no back story

clearly that is a back story

hairbearbunches · 25/11/2024 16:08

redskydarknight · 25/11/2024 13:33

It's relevant because if the answer is "we thought you'd be at work/you like to have Christmas on your own/it would be too far to get to the meal" that's a bit different to "we didn't think about asking you, but suppose we might be able to include you if you you want to come".

Coming up with potential excuses for not inviting someone without finding out whether those excuses hold water is just as hurtful.

betterangels · 25/11/2024 16:10

maudelovesharold · 25/11/2024 12:18

I’d probably do exactly the same. I wouldn’t, however let them think I had other plans, I would make it quite clear that I didn’t appreciate being an afterthought. But then I’m petty like that!

I'd do this. I wouldn't be tiptoeing around something so hurtful.

LivinInYourBigGlassHouseWithAView · 25/11/2024 16:16

I think you need to ask your mum why you weren't included from the beginning. Tell her it's making you reconsider your entire relationship with her and whether you want to make any more effort with her and your siblings going forward since you were clearly being excluded from a family Christmas dinner out for no obvious reason.

YouLookinSusBro · 25/11/2024 16:16

Reminds me of the time my parents, all my siblings and even one of my own DC went out for a father's day meal but didn't invite me.

Not surprised you're hurt op.

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:17

YouLookinSusBro · 25/11/2024 16:16

Reminds me of the time my parents, all my siblings and even one of my own DC went out for a father's day meal but didn't invite me.

Not surprised you're hurt op.

and if you’re honest

what’s your relationship like with these people that a) you weren’t invited and b) they all wanted to go knowing you wouldn’t be there

greengreyblue · 25/11/2024 16:19

My first question to my mum would have been, why didn’t you ask us when you booked?

zingally · 25/11/2024 16:22

There's clearly a lot of backstory here.

I imagine a lot of it centers around the siblings unknown partner and OP not attending their wedding. Just a hunch.

YouLookinSusBro · 25/11/2024 16:23

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:17

and if you’re honest

what’s your relationship like with these people that a) you weren’t invited and b) they all wanted to go knowing you wouldn’t be there

Complex relationships in some cases but not bad.

My mum said it was only meant to be 1 sibling and his family and it kind of snowballed. Then my DD was invited as she lived just around the corner and doesn't have a father - she didn't realise I hadn't been invited just assumed I wouldn't have gone as I had a small baby. To be fair I probably wouldn't have but it still stung!

ginslinger · 25/11/2024 16:25

If you want to go and see your siblings then I would accept the offer but I would say that you were hurt by not being included in the initial planning and is there a reason for this.

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:29

YouLookinSusBro · 25/11/2024 16:23

Complex relationships in some cases but not bad.

My mum said it was only meant to be 1 sibling and his family and it kind of snowballed. Then my DD was invited as she lived just around the corner and doesn't have a father - she didn't realise I hadn't been invited just assumed I wouldn't have gone as I had a small baby. To be fair I probably wouldn't have but it still stung!

ok so not even a fraction as bad as your first post would indicate

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:29

greengreyblue · 25/11/2024 16:19

My first question to my mum would have been, why didn’t you ask us when you booked?

indeed

but it’s a mumsnet thread afterall

mondaytosunday · 25/11/2024 16:32

No it's not 'loud and clear'!
Just ask her! At least it is an opportunity to get things out in the open - maybe she is harbouring some resentment you have no idea about! Like now you are harbouring resentment, and she may not realise!

Thatcastlethere · 25/11/2024 16:46

I wouldn't cut off your nose to spite your face tbh. If you want to go just say so.. and directly ask why she hadn't thought to include you initially? It may be that she assumed you wouldn't be interested for some reason... I think it's best to find out what's actually gone on here before you decide to take offense.

Apolloneuro · 25/11/2024 16:50

bridgetreilly · 25/11/2024 13:11

I wouldn’t cut off my nose to spite my face. If you want to go, go. If you don’t, don’t. But I really think life is much easier if you don’t constantly take offence all over the place.

I must admit I agree with this. I can totally understand why you feel pissed off, but people aren’t perfect and cock up without really thinking.

if you think told enjoy it, go.

Livinglifetoday · 25/11/2024 17:04

I would tell my mother & my siblings you are extremely confused about why you weren't included in the initial plan & see what they have to say. If there is a reasonable excuse I'd go along & put it out of my head.

Livinglifetoday · 25/11/2024 17:06

andagain1 · 25/11/2024 16:29

ok so not even a fraction as bad as your first post would indicate

I didn't read this post. It's getting worse,just go along & stop the drama.

Shopgirl2 · 25/11/2024 17:36

If saying 'no' hurts yourself, and you want to go and would get something positive out of seeing your family, then it's worth making an effort to go despite the snub. Put these initial feelings of hurt aside. If it repeats, then you'll need to ask questions of why you weren't included in the plans from the start.

AnnieSnap · 26/11/2024 18:21

SkunderlaiSkendi · 25/11/2024 13:03

Ask what, exactly?

Ask her why in your words, you were “an after thought”.