Call a General Election? Really?

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I mean, I very much doubt this will get anywhere in the parliament but nearly 2 mil people signed it in just over 24 hours 😬

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143

By doing my research before the election, it was clear things would need to become worse before getting better.

@JusteanBiscuits why would contracting the private sector be part of what Labour wanted?

It won't be possible for an increase in public spending to occur with lower take

It wasn't forecast but has since happened post July

Would you prefer this petition instead? https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700035

Because sometimes the private sector is the best option. I don't know exactly what you are referring to, but any government should be finding the best option, what ever the sector.

What in their manifesto has been broken?

Yet everything has got much better in the last fourteen years.

@JusteanBiscuits by contracting I mean the recent S&P PMI report, here's the Bloomberg headline, other outlets picked up the same

Economics
UK Private Sector Stagnates After Budget Tax Hike, PMI Shows

• Index drops just below level dividing growth from contraction
• Slowdown blamed on budget increase to employer payroll levy

22 November 2024 at 09:30 GMT

The impression I get from your posts is that Starmer and Reeves have planned what is happening, but why would they want to stagnate the private sector and growth?

Is it that they've made mistakes or how else would you rationalise stagnation, especially since the opposite is required for increased public spending

The last thing we need right now is for Labour to drive the economy into recession. I am nervous as hell, because so much is riding on stability at the moment.

Meanwhile they are just not addressing the main issues:

Immigration controls
People smugglers
Social care
Crime and policing
Overcrowding
Able bodied, healthy people claiming benefits for decades

And now this: businesses closing en masse:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy8n3n62wq4o

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp816jrnynyo

Lol, i thought MN had guidelines on mis information?

Because i'm certain that the financial crash in 2008 was GLOBAL and started in the USA, made worse by not supporting Lehmans ?

But you know this, so are working on the "repeat a lie enough times and people will believe it" rubbish.

We weathered the crash very well, thats to having low debt to GDP of 42%, after 14 years of your lot, its now 100%....

UK Gilts going from 1.5% to 5% was a UK only impact, caused by your idiot Liz Truss, UK still paying the costs of that and will be for many years.

Yep, rules introduced by the Tories..... & ones Labour need to reverse, the only people benefiting from forcing traditional car companies to make & sell EVs are the Chinese EV only manufacturers.

We weathered the crash thanks to the conservatives taking over.

Fuckin ell... the Tories took over 2 years later... we were well past the worst by then.

Osbourne then decided on 5 years of Austerity, but somehow still managed to increase debt to GDP, quite a trick, borrow more but end up with far less.
then once fully in power in 2015, decided on another 5 years of cuts.... but not even content with that, your buffoon Cameron decided to call a fucking EU referendum, complete with no rules! just a simple majority of 1 was enough, the twat.

Condemning us to years of division and economic loss, which will carry on for decades to come.

After Cameron, May and Truss, Tories have a brass neck blaming Labour for the economy. Sunak spaffed millions on Rwanda and Johnson wasted how much on PPE and other disasters?

Now they want them back - it must be a kink.

Then again 70% think it's worse now with Labour and only 8% that it's better

It's not quite matched on these threads

We weathered the crash thanks to the conservatives taking over.

Did we fuck. Time for this chart to come out again.

TBF When asked "Should assisted dying be legal?" almost 70% said YES

When the question was reframed to include methods and procedures, just 11% said YES.

the point here is: how something is asked makes a big difference, so "Are you so fed up with Labour that you want the Tories back?" would get a very different response.

the other thing is, it really doesn't matter what anyone thinks, Labour are in for the next 5 years and unless the Tories up their game, they wont be in either, i've yet to hear of a single Tory policy on anything at all.

@Artistbythewater Labour have been in power for five months yet they are expected to solve the problems that have dogged the last decade. If Labour’s policies are stopping business investing in employees, plant and equipment etc, what has prevented them doing this prior to the election?

Who do you think would make a better government and why?

They're all on mumsnet! Have you not noticed?

Looks like the pp was reading the Guardian;

6 October 2024

after making more mistakes in its first 100 days – a milestone it reaches this week – than any postwar government

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/06/after-100-days-of-mistakes-we-need-to-hear-labours-underlying-philosophy

Maybe @Clavinova in which case I’d like to see the guardian’s workings as well. I suspect it’s not based on anything but a feeling.

Funny enough, just been discussed on the radio. There was an article 18 months ago in 2023. When the conservatives were in power that stated the firm behind this said they were going to leave if Brexit negotiations wasn't better because it cost money to export the cars, so I tell you what whose to blame. It's the right-wing sycophants that gave us brexit.
Sorry my reply was for @Artistbythewater

BBC article from 2023

Fears for Vauxhall Luton van plant's future due to Brexit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-66126185

See this is brexit not to do wuth bloody labour your right wing lot fucked us and yet you blame Labour fuck right off https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65612295.amp @Artistbythewater