Update - where’s the new Guardian Soulmates?

[Snowfish79]

Having stumbled upon the above topic via dear Google…. I wonder if any wise and informed persons have an answer?

I may be shot for being a boy, in a girls’ place…. Please make it quick 🙏🏻

Hold on; ‘allegedly’?!! What?! That’s exactly why I initially posted, not to have my man-ness interrogated. Funnily enough

I was not aware that this was a ‘women’s safe space’. I suggest you contact the management and suggest they advise all men accordingly.

Thats a lie, you were told again and again that it was/is a safe space for many women but YOU decided that those women telling you that, are wrong.

And not “all men” need to be advised accordingly, just you.

@Snowfish79 I meant more in relation to @anythinginapinch contribution, especially the first part. About this particular man's insistence and persistence to ignore my 'No.' Why is it even necessary for me to say 'no' more than once?

I don't want to be asked out at work. I don't want to be touched by men at work. I want to go to work to work.

Ohhhhh so you now think in addition to your previous self entitled posts, you have the right to dictate any references to man-ness, what ever that might be?

“Women are afraid of being killed by men. Men are afraid of being laughed at by women.”

This is a fucking STUDY, truly.

And I don't want my only option to be to quit my job because men don't understand the word 'no'.

As he said, you sounded negative about the job and if you were positive about the job then you wouldn’t mind getting touched up a bit, would you, love? 😫

Im going to nominate this thread for Classics. It represents some of the most pernicious and insidious misogyny I’ve seen in a long time.

I’m not sure that I can help you with this 🤷🏻‍♂️

Do you think it’s possible that she’s trying to tell you that you’re in a safe space, are not wanted and should leave?

And absolutely, 100% doesn’t want your help?

When I was learning how to navigate parenting I came to the realisation that for Toddlers quite often ANY attention was good, even if it was negative - they sought it and enjoyed it. I believe that Narcissists are the same.
Some men also just enjoy getting attention from women even if it may seem that the attention is negative, they don't care if they are being called names or told to go away because at least we are interacting with them. Probably related to Mummy issues, who knows (or frankly cares)

Is this thread still going.

Fucking hell

@Hoppinggreen is right.

Sod the lot of you.

I said I would leave and that was wrong. So I stayed, to try to learn, that was wrong. You make all sorts of false and mostly unpleasant assumptions.

If I now leave, you will think you have ‘won’ and I must be guilty as charged, but if I stay, nothing I say is considered, literally nothing, and I am branded a narcissist and a misogynist. As someone commented earlier, you have constructed a no win situation, or a series of them, where the only outcome was to find me guilty and to fit me to to your stereotypes about men. How on Earth this is meant to help relations between men and women I don’t know.

Enjoy festering in your own toxic bile

Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out 🤣

Thanks, babe 👍🏻

Well that has certainly told us.

Bloody hell. He just kept on, didn’t he? And it’s all about winning, and domination. Vile.

FuckityBye

They always let the mask slip. Always. They pretend to be reasonable (although the veneer is paper thin and we can all see through it) and then they lash out as soon as we’re not doing as we’re told. Women are playthings, produced for their fascination and enjoyment.

Well if a man can't solve the Problem of (some) Men...

The point is, you can't dip in and out of women's rights whenever it suits you to say "yes, yes, I understand..." You don't understand, because you can't fully emphasise unless you are a woman. Unless you feel afraid to walk home alone in the dark. Unless you can't go to work without fear of being touched or propositioned or followed home. Unless you have to carry a personal alarm.

Please educate yourself, or be bold enough to say, "Sorry, I actually don't understand any of this because it's not my experience."

Long sigh.

Oooh we're supposed to ensure we do everything to facilitate men's understanding- without upsetting, challenging or being anything other than kind - of the insidious misogyny of the culture...

I so want to respect and be able to enjoy men. Again and again they disappoint.

OP, if you're still here, this is not about you. It's about women's experiences of men - again and again and again. Whether the postal worker, the colleague, the customer, the bloke in the bar or the man providing a service. Again and again women experience a shit ton of mild or major put downs, judgement, evaluation, demands, and limitations. You've had one thread of it and you're pissed off and defensive.

Does that not tell you anything at all?