To break with hair stylist over politics?

[momtoboys]

Please try to be kind, because as silly as this sounds I am very upset about this situation.

I am currently in the US and I have been going to the same woman who does my hair for 25 years. Over the years we have become friends but do not really see each other socially (occasionally talk on the phone, text, cook a meal when someone sick). We seem to have made this unspoken agreement that we would not discuss politics both knowing we are on opposite ends of the spectrum in our beliefs. The US has recently had a presidential election and the person elected is a VERY polarizing character. This is the person my hairstylist supports.

I had my hair done last night and it appears that since the election results our silent pact not to discuss politics has expired. She really wanted to talk about how much better the country will be and how smart the president elect is. I asked her to stop and that I didn't think we should discuss it but she kept on and then I went at her both barrels. we played the "well, what about THIS" game for a while each trying to outwit the other to prove our point. We were able to pull ourselves out of a terrible spiral and the last 1/2 hour of the appointment was fine. I hugged her goodbye which I normally don't do and I realized that was because I think that may be the last time I see her. I don't think I can go back. I still enjoy her as a friend but her support for this megalomaniac makes me think less of her. If this is the end do I call her and tell her why or just cancel my next appointment and just move on?

‘A small country, far away’.

Not really most of the UK can't understand why the US would vote in a racist, misogynistic, rapist loon.

You sound insufferable.

Maybe act like an adult yourself then and stop with the pathetically childish rethoric. Why they voted for Trump is the important part. There has been a huge walk away by former Democrats who voted for, or even campaigned for Trump. And they did that precisely because of the behaviour of the Democratic party. There has also been the surprising (to people who haven't actually spent much time with young people) fact that Gen Z, turned to Trump. And they are doing that because of the behaviour of the Democratic party. (Bear in mind that in unofficial 'polls' run in elementary schools, Gen Alpha kids were even more favourable towards Trump.)

If the Democratic party ever wants to win people back, or over in the first place, they need to understand why they are not attracting voters and change course. Otherwise you're looking at the next 12, maybe even 16 or 20, years of Republican presidencies. Vance is starting to poll even more favourably than Trump now, and the most likely woman, as it stands now, to be first female president of the US is Gabbard.

Not most of the UK at all. Most are indifferent to American politics, and those that are are pretty much split on their thoughts on the result. You're probably basing your assumption on the views of the majority on MN, who really aren't representative of the UK population. If they were, brexit would never have happened.

Hairdressers in England only ever want to talk about holidays….i guess we must be grateful for that lol 👍

I couldn’t care less what the politics views of my hairdresser involves.

yes, but when someone is that close to your head with a sharp implement?

& bonkers enough to be fervent Trump supporter?
😂

I disagree. Everyone I know was very interested in the American elections and had quite strong opinions on the candidates. The day after the elections my colleagues spoke a lot about the result. I'd say the majority of Brits really dislike Trump but there are a large minority who love him.

This.

Not necessarily who 'love him' but just think he's the better option. Considering the Democrats clung on to the mentally unstable Biden for too long, and had to rush in the unpopular Kamala Harris, then who could blame them? And Bidens current crusade trying to poke the bear (Russia) to satisfy his own agenda, seems the right decision was made. Imo.

And maybe the circles you move in doesn't reflect the majority. I know people who were invested in the American election. But equally I know lots of people who really didn't give a toss.

If I knew my hairdresser was a Trump supporter but she kept quiet about it, then fine, I'd still go. However, if she wanted to discuss him/argue with me during my appointment, then I'd definitely stop going.
It's not about wanting to exist in an echo chamber. I'll happily debate politics and listen to others, if I'm in the right mood.
However, I'm a busy, working mum. My hair appointments are about the only time I have a bit of me time, a whole hour to sit back and relax. I really don't want to hear someone going on about Trump and his policies, which I find quite repugnant, during this time.

You said most of the UK are indifferent but that's not my experience. Maybe the circles you move in don't reflect the majority. And yes, I do know people who couldn't care less, but they're not the majority.

@momtoboys go to the next appointment. Steer clear of politics. If she insists on talking about it, there’s your answer.

Maybe that's true but if you support someone who is a racist misogynist then that tells me what your core values are. Its not the same if you switch it the other way round.

That was for @Errors

You're being ridiculous in my view. Everyone is entitled to their own views and politics. It baffles me why people allow it to affect friendships and such.

Reminds me of a dentist many years ago that would fill my mouth with drills, etc & then wax lyrical about Margaret Thatcher.
I changed dentists.

I never understand this view. Your political views reflect your values and world view. If I knew someone thought Trump was brilliant or was a massive Tommy Robinson fan, I just wouldn't want to he their friend. Their views would turn me off and I simply wouldn't like them. Why is that so hard to understand?

I'm not going to attempt a discussion with someone who resorts to puerile insults. They don't tend to have anything intelligent to say.

I did this with my hairdresser over Brexit, he was spouting Daily Mail hate stuff which I then dismantled. It took a while but I showed him which statements were a complete fabrication or even outright lies... he then encouraged the juniors to vote for it and that was the last time I saw him.

He cuts the hair of a friend and a year ago sent his apologies via her, telling her that I had been right and how he wishes he had listened. Too late, mate.

I would dump any and all service providers who supported trump. Without question. As a moral imperative.

You really don’t get it.

I voted Trump because I wanted immigration under control and fossil fuels to be prioritized.

He was simply the best fit. I don’t have to consider the ‘morals’ of our leader: I want to consider his effectiveness and his ability to realize these goals.

After all, Jimmy Carter was probably the most ‘moral’ of presidents and was extremely ineffective, and it led straight to the Reagan era.

… seems familiar somehow

Out of curiosity, how has immigration/asylum seeking affected you personally?

And why wouldn't you want to prioritise alternative energy solutions? Why would anyone want to prioritise fossil fuels?

Does the fact that he's a convicted rapist, convicted on other criminal counts, profiteering from the presidency and a known racist not bother you at all? Or what this is going to do to the people of Ukraine?

My hometown is near Springfield. I don’t want it to become like that, how could I allow my elderly parents to suffer as they have?

Plus, I have been horrified by the Laken Riley case (have you heard of it?). An illegal immigrant attempted to rape her and then bashed her head in with a rock when she fought back.

He was apprehended at the border and LET GO under Biden admin’s catch and release. He went to NYC and was arrested for injuring a child there. He was let go (did they know he was illegal? Did they check?) and missed his court date. Nothing was done about this.

Because of overcrowding at his taxpayer funded hotel room for migrants at NYC, he was given a taxpayer-funded airline ticket to Athens, GA, where he ended up murdering Laken

She’s far from the only woman raped and murdered by an illegal immigrant this year btw. But this case was especially awful for how many times he slipped deportation.

I don’t care about Ukraine’s borders at all. I care about America’s.