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To not want to spend another sh*t Xmas with in laws

180 replies

Oopydoops · 17/11/2024 21:52

Myself and DH are together 13 years. We have two DD aged 8 and 5. Every year since we met, we have spent Xmas with his family. The past few years have been awful, his brother is rude and arrogant, his sister spends the day sniping at everyone, her husband is the most pompous man I've ever met in my life and I'm sitting in a corner wishing I was anywhere but there. MIL is selling the house so it will be the last year in that house. But the thoughts of another Christmas wasted on arguments and backbiting and MIL ending up in tears makes me feel sick. My children aren't going to be young forever. I want to enjoy the magic with them. DH wants to go there, feels his mum will fall apart if we don't. I want to stay at home and possibly have my parents over. But I won't win this one. DH will put his foot down and say he's going with the kids and I can stay at home if I want. I honestly want to cry at the thoughts of another Xmas in the atmosphere of a funeral parlour. AIBU in not wanting to go even though it's the last Xmas in his childhood home?

OP posts:
RenoDakota · 17/11/2024 23:59

Lookingatthesunset · 17/11/2024 23:43

How could you not know that Boxing Day also known as St Stephen's Day? Have you never heard Good King Wenceslas? Who, "last looked out, on the feast of Stephen"???

Of course I know Good King Wenceslas but never gave one thought to when 'the feast of Stephen' might be! Apart from sometime vaguely around Christmas.

Pallisers · 18/11/2024 00:00

Tell him he is welcome to go to his mother's but you and your children will be spending christmas day at home with your parents.

If he doesn't like that then his mother is more than welcome to come to you.

If he doesn't like that tell him he is self-centered and selfish and after 13 years of suiting him you will be suiting you - and your children.

If you can't do that then text him "so am I to understand that for the Xth year in a row we will be going to your mum's even though you know I don't enjoy it, have a family of my own I'd like to invite over and I have to work Stephens' day so this is my only day off really" If he says yes reply "Well ok - you clearly have your priorities. but like you agreed, we'll be staying home next year."

Then save the text and when he starts trying to impose his own will next year produce it. but good luck with that - he sounds very very self-centered to me.

Silvertulips · 18/11/2024 00:02

Have a family Christmas Day on Christmas Eve - open presents have dinner, play all day!

The he can F-Off to his parents and you can do it with yours.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 18/11/2024 00:08

Invite your parents and his mum. Say sorry no space for siblings. If she doesn’t want to come that’s up to her.

And if your DH wants to go he can, but he can’t force you to let him take the kids?! Put your foot down and spend it how you want to spend it. Your turn to decide this year.

DBD1975 · 18/11/2024 00:30

OP what a nightmare and I feel your pain my SIL and her husband are exactly the same. They are extremely wealthy, look down their noses at the rest of the family and just spend the day making sarcastic comments, putting everyone down and being totally vile. I have had to suck it up for years, it is hideous but not worth the arguments and fall out if I say I won't go. I don't enjoy Christmas, in fact I just see it as something to be endured, I will just be glad to get back to work as soon as possible.

CJFJ1 · 18/11/2024 00:54

DBD1975 · 18/11/2024 00:30

OP what a nightmare and I feel your pain my SIL and her husband are exactly the same. They are extremely wealthy, look down their noses at the rest of the family and just spend the day making sarcastic comments, putting everyone down and being totally vile. I have had to suck it up for years, it is hideous but not worth the arguments and fall out if I say I won't go. I don't enjoy Christmas, in fact I just see it as something to be endured, I will just be glad to get back to work as soon as possible.

Sadly, I feel exactly the same about Christmas, @DBD1975 😥I breathe a huge sigh of relief once Christmas is over - it is an endurance test, as you say, when you have difficult relatives.

brecal11 · 18/11/2024 00:55

I feel your pain, I used to avoid going to my partner mother’s house because she is so morbid and made me very uncomfortable.

Vaxtable · 18/11/2024 01:04

Invite your parents, tell him the kids are staying with you, and he can go on. his own. Tell him the kids are older now, will pick upon the way his family treat everyone and you are not subjecting your kids to his families bad behaviour that he won’t do anything about b

Orangefruitbrush · 18/11/2024 01:08

Put your foot down this year OP. Do it for your children - they deserve one year of Christmas at home whilst they are still little.

What is wrong with your DH... could one of your in laws be a narcissist?

DBD1975 · 18/11/2024 01:11

Further to my previous post just had a thought, surely you didn't/couldn't have spent Christmas at your MIL's during COVID? I didn't have to do my in-laws when we were in lockdown, best Christmas I have had in years!

24CRZZNKKA · 18/11/2024 01:32

Lookingatthesunset · 17/11/2024 23:43

How could you not know that Boxing Day also known as St Stephen's Day? Have you never heard Good King Wenceslas? Who, "last looked out, on the feast of Stephen"???

I haven't ever heard of St Stephens day and couldn't have told you if it was Christmas eve, boxing day or some other day around Christmas. Sorry 🤷

Iv heard the song but still didn't know when it was.

user1492757084 · 18/11/2024 02:18

Go for the final Christmas this year.

Anounce on the way there, in the car, that next year you will be having Christmas at home. Ask the kids to take note of anything they want to include, from these old Christmases at Granny's, in their new Christmas Celebrations.

At the table announce to all how generous the old house has been to the family and proclaim that next year you will be hosting Christmas.

Make happy noises a couple of months out from Christmas next year about how you will enjoy hosting Christmas.
Invite both families. The happy vibes might catch from one family to the other.

It will be new traditions on your terms.
Keep inviting everyone every year as your default..
Accept invitations to someone else's Christmas only when it suits you.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 18/11/2024 02:21

user1492757084 · 18/11/2024 02:18

Go for the final Christmas this year.

Anounce on the way there, in the car, that next year you will be having Christmas at home. Ask the kids to take note of anything they want to include, from these old Christmases at Granny's, in their new Christmas Celebrations.

At the table announce to all how generous the old house has been to the family and proclaim that next year you will be hosting Christmas.

Make happy noises a couple of months out from Christmas next year about how you will enjoy hosting Christmas.
Invite both families. The happy vibes might catch from one family to the other.

It will be new traditions on your terms.
Keep inviting everyone every year as your default..
Accept invitations to someone else's Christmas only when it suits you.

No way. Her kids are 8 and 5 and have endured this rigmarole long enough

user1492757084 · 18/11/2024 02:27

Op says, her kids are treated like royalty over there and don't pick up on any nasty vibes.
It is mainly Op who dislikes hearing her DH family bickering etc.

DPotter · 18/11/2024 02:28

Re-frame the problem - Invite your MIL over to yours along with your parents, and don't invite his siblings as they can't behave.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/11/2024 03:18

I would also not give in for the last year in the house. No way. Your children deserve a lovely drama free Christmas. Your eldest will shortly no longer believe in Santa (presuming you do the Santa thing) and for all that time has had to put up with bickering, drama and crying.

Is this really the dynamic you wish them to perpetuate into adulthood? Children usually live what they learn. I see it now with my dd’s 16 yo friends.

With one friend, her dad doesn’t talk to his family but dd’s friend does see her grandma (his mum). Dd’s friend’s mum is blaming her for the parent’s marriage breaking down and stopped talking to her a week ago and has blocked her dd on her phone (in case anyone forgot she’s 16), her father is overbearing but loving and is forcing her to work in the family business full time and the setting is inappropriate with lots of leery men. She doesn’t get along with her 14 yo brother at all and they snitch on each other to their parents… I’ve spoken to her about this all and asked her to stop btw. There are no rules and the rules are supposed to be known and seem arbitrary so dd’s friend doesn’t know which way is up. This is the next generation of a fragmented family.

Another 16 yo friend’s parents are divorcing and the parents are nesting on alternate weeks. The mum kicked her dd out at the start of her week, dad now has a girlfriend and stays with her, and as there is no room at the gf’s house unless she sleeps on the sofa, dd’s friend is staying with a friend. Imo the nesting agreement has failed and the dad isn’t sticking up for her either. Dd didn’t know either girl until in her teens so I don’t know the parents and can’t comment for what it was like as a child but my guess is chaos or at least one overbearing parent in both instances.

Idk why there is so much sibling rivalry going on in your dh’s family. But drama is no good and there must be a cause from childhood even if no one seems to understand why. I’d be keeping my kids away and inviting your mil to yours or going to your family. Drama is infectious and your dh may not be perpetuating the drama between the siblings. But he’s doing it in other ways and being incredibly controlling of the 3 of you. Control leads to chaos and he clearly has very poor boundaries.

Thus far you’ve been a pushover and he is just expecting you to roll over. I most certainly hope you will not. The more people give, the more people will take until eventually things are very uneven. As a result you wanting this Christmas with your family likely feels to him like you are upsetting traditions and dictating to him even when we can all see he’s completely taken the piss out of your good nature and desire to smooth things over.

Pinkpurpletulips · 18/11/2024 03:56

Lowering my expectations of Christmas has increased my overall happiness. I mean if your expectations are low, anything good is a bonus. I would be happy to invite any family member who was on their own because I think that is the essence of Christmas. However, given that most of my relatives don't live in the same country as me, I may have a slightly rosy view there. (My husband tells me that being an only child has given me an over rosy view of the benefits of having siblings and my eldest told me years ago that he would have preferred to be an only child.)

Anyotherdude · 18/11/2024 04:47

Take over a game that you can all play - some of the mystery ones available this year look good. That should take care of the backbiting and make everyone work together instead. Your MIL might even get to enjoy her Xmas…

icecreamsundaeno5 · 18/11/2024 04:59

It doesn't sound like MIL has a nice time either. Invite her to yours but not the others.

If she won't come, stay at home with a clear conscience.

Or, suck it up this year but remind dh weekly from January that he agreed that next year will be different.

Artistbythewater · 18/11/2024 05:00

Say no and hold firm.

Invite his mother over with your parents. The siblings can make their own arrangements this year..

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 18/11/2024 05:01

Swap your shift to Christmas Day so you can do Boxing Day with your famil.

Aberentian · 18/11/2024 05:06

He must be in his thirties probably? I think his "childhood home" is water under the bridge now. He can say goodbye to it without spending Christmas there. It sounds fucking horrible, send him alone if he must go and give your kids a real Christmas at your house.

Aberentian · 18/11/2024 05:09

DH will put his foot down and say he's going with the kids and I can stay at home if I want.

Does he often bully you like this?
Why would his mum "fall apart?"
Lots of red flags for emotional abuse here imo.

PurebredRacingUnicorn · 18/11/2024 05:21

You have a bigger problem than what happens on one day of the year.

GettingStuffed · 18/11/2024 05:31

As your problem seems to be with your DH,'s siblings can you invite your MiL to yours and not the siblings. You could invite iyour parents too

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