To think this is an unacceptable wage?

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I'm a qualified teacher with 21 years' experience who has just started supply so flexibility with a poorly husband and three kids of my own.
Just did a full day supply (8.30-3.30) and came out with £112 net.
Hubby thinks decent wage, I think piss-take!
Opinions please!

This is key information!

What's the gross day rate and hours? It's net after tax and presuming no personal allowance can be used if that's gone against the main job.

Because they aren’t. A cleaner, receptionist may be on 16 an hour, but that will be before tax/NI. Your quoted 16 pounds is after tax/NI!

Agree it's probably way in excess of nurses pay. Which needs addressing.

I'm not even remotely saying teachers or nurses shouldn't be paid more but all this comparison to min wage jobs is nuts.

If you’re working via a supply Agency , they will be taking a heft weighting from your hourly rate . This should have been made very clear at the outset .

@DurinsBane Do you think all "cash in hand" cleaners declare their earnings?

Mixed as many have pointed out the wage is normal for a lot and is higher than NMW (which is ridiculously low bar). Just highlights how low wages are on some sectors.
The real question is does it work for you I.e can you live off it and is it something which you don't absolutely hate.
As with most things if you can suck it up.

Not read the full thread but as a teacher who has done supply it's totally not a good amount as that's to cover holiday and sick pay too! I couldn't survive on supply as it's term time only so doesn't work out anywhere near £42k a year!

Plus I forgot to add you won't get work for every day of the terms either! So it's not a good wage!

I dd supply in England for ages for £110 per day. After total burnout I loved the freedom and felt it was fair enough for 7 hours work and no stress. However, long term you've really losing out on vital pension contributions. The private pension your agency will have you on (probably nest pensions) is rubbish.Im doing supply in Northern Ireland now. There isn't an agency system, all supply teachers work through the education authority. Which means the school doesn't have to pay agency's huge chunks amd more can go to the teacher. The teacher gets their pay scale divided by 190 instead of a flat rate. Pension contributions are also proportionate to days worked. I feel like a fool for staying in England so long. The English supply scheme needs reformed. If schools didn't have to pay agencies, more would go to the teacher.

I know people who have been reported (maliciously) to hmrc for not reporting income, who then had full audit - it was expensive, time consuming and very very stressful. I am sure a great many fudge a bit here and there around the edges, but it is more difficult than you think for the average person to get away with hiding any sort of substantial income from hmrc long term.

My husband who has left the classroom and now teaches with an agency which provides one to one tuition with children who are out of the school environment gets paid £26 per hour.
I would consider doing that. He enjoys the freedom and flexibility. Find an agency that do that. You go into children's homes and just teach. These kids have echp . So many children who are not in school for one thing or the other and COVID has definitely affected them. Consider that and get paid the money you're worth for that many years experience

I work in the environmental field, at the top of my world (CEO for my company). I earn just under £50k, work about 65hrs a week, no sick pay, 5% pension. If you don't feel you are earning enough, get out of teaching and do something else. I hear nothing but moaning. Do I think I could earn more elsewhere? Yes. But, do I think I could achieve what I do in my current role elsewhere? Not at all. I do it from a passion. You owe it to the children you teach and are supposed to inspire to find a different profession.

I may have missed it but has the OP stated the hourly rate pre-deductions and hours to be worked plus other T&Cs?

@ArthurChristmas22 As any current teacher will tell you, teaching is no longer about the children. It is no longer our central focus. Incredibly sad but true.

@HomelessAngua The agency are yet to provide me with this info. I've requested it but what will it change?

So instead of complaining about it, why don't you get a different job.
You've been teaching long enough to know what the pay is. Besides I don't think anyone takes on a teaching career to get rich.

My DD is in year 9. Her science teacher has been off sick I’ve February. They’ve had a long term supply teacher that gives them worksheets that other science teachers have put over her. She isn’t allowed to do experiments with them, and can’t answer any questions on anything in the worksheets.

in what way is that not “babysitting”?

Why did you agree to do it without knowing the pay?!

Did you not ask prior to starting? Anyway if I were you I would want a payslip...

Is that £26 before deductions?

I know teachers with Doctorates and Masters degrees as well as their PGCE. Some teachers get dumped left on MP1 earning less than £30K a year and working all hours. I think you're being ridiculous. You're probably taking home a whole lot more than the teachers around you who are probably working for minimum wage if you actually consider the hours they put in.

Ex-legal here, media contractual. £40k. Left 4 years ago on the verge of a breakdown due to the unbearable pressure. Took redundancy during Covid.

I work for the nhs in admin/reception - I earn £12 /hr - just gone up from £11.44.

Op around here Nannies are earning around 20-25 an hour. It's really shocking how little qualified professionals earn. Someone I know left teaching to open her own nanny agency!

I'm a full time primary school teacher. That wage sounds good when you consider there's no extra responsibility outside of your working hours. Must be nice…