To think this is an unacceptable wage?

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I'm a qualified teacher with 21 years' experience who has just started supply so flexibility with a poorly husband and three kids of my own.
Just did a full day supply (8.30-3.30) and came out with £112 net.
Hubby thinks decent wage, I think piss-take!
Opinions please!

Goodness me this is thread number 7ish whining about your job? You need to get out of teaching/TAing for your own good.

To compare, I teach 2.5 days a week not supply (class teacher 0.5) and come out with £1400 pm. So not sure where some of you are getting these figures from?

A lot of equally qualified/experienced professionals earn around your wage OP - Vets for example (although their degree level is probably higher than a teacher).

And I believe human nurses earn less than that.

£20ph is a £41,600pa salary. It's good money and on the nose for teaching.

@Fluufer And perhaps you need to get one if you have so much spare time on your hands to work this out and post entirely unhelpful comments.

The day to day rate is lower based on the fact you have no planning responsibility or accountability.

When you have been working in the same school for 12 weeks, your pay goes up to reflect your current pay scale (M1-M6).

So it’s over £36k FTE. Not bad when you can just turn up then leave and don’t have to do any extra work - marking, lesson planning, SLT meetings etc. You can’t expect to have your cake and eat it too.

I think it's a normal salary. it's just that the cost of living has become so high it feels like it doesn't perhaps go far. But it's a fare bit above the average wage.

@YetAnotherFedUpTeacher I'm M6. Always worked but 3 mat leaves and pt.

At a crossroads with my career as going back to work after being a SAHM. Would love to be a TA but I’m asking myself, can I make that commitment to be on minimum wage, or just over for the foreseeable future? Partner is a high earner and I want to ease the financial burden on him being the sole earner and have my own pension. He gets paid a lot, but work is probably the last thing he thinks about at night and the first thing he thinks about in the morning. Time off is scarce and hard to take. If he had gone down the public sector route he would probably be earning a third of what he is now (and of course, probably working just as hard and as stressed / more stressed). Is it fair, no, but he chose the route that would pay out. Whether he can cope with the stress for another 20 years is another matter.

It's about 40% over NMW, so that's pretty good.

Experienced vets earn £16 ph? That really is shocking. I had no idea!

I don’t know how supply teaching works but if you don’t get paid holiday, BH, sickness and pension, then I don’t think that is a good wage. Locum social workers can take home £30+ ph after tax without the benefits listed above, so I would have expected supply teaching to be similar as I imagine permanent wages and benefits between social workers and teachers to be relatively similar

That explains it then.

The last agency I was with only paid £120 a day for 12 weeks and then it went up.

But you need to be with the same school.

That's not bad

In my school £45k a year which this equates to is what a junior HoD or more senior subject lead would get

Do you have 21 years experience…

… or do you have one year’s experience, 21 times?

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@Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee No holiday pay or any of the other things you mention, no.

@Thatsenoughcoffee Get a life.

I think it sounds OK for a teacher with no responsibilities. Degrees are pretty meaningless these days in terms of wage equality

You’re not comparing like with like. Minimum wage is gross and you’re comparing the rate you received after tax, NI and any other deductions. Hope you’re not teaching maths.

May I ask what it is you all do in terms of work and pay?

So a £2.40 per hour wage cut for not having the responsibility of a class, planning, marking, schemes of work, meetings, parents evenings...I'd take that if I were you!

Load of nonsense on this thread! OP YANBU and some of these annual salary calculations are total shyte as the job physically isn't available to work longer days or year-round. That's not how teachers' salaries are calculated.

It sounds like they've put you on M1 which, given you're not getting sick or holiday pay, is absolutely shite with all your experience. However, that's usually what supply agencies pay and you should have negotiated when you signed up. Some agencies pay everyone M1. If you're not doing planning or marking, I'd suck it up, but if you're in a long term placement with additional responsibilities I'd definitely talk to someone about this.

Is it for 7 hours or did you have an hour off teaching for lunch. It’s a fair NET wage for a job where you have no prep and can walk away at the end of the day.

But sure 3-4 years at Uni is standard. We have all done years at Uni, (most of us).