To think this is an unacceptable wage?

[Youthiswastedontheyoung]

I'm a qualified teacher with 21 years' experience who has just started supply so flexibility with a poorly husband and three kids of my own.
Just did a full day supply (8.30-3.30) and came out with £112 net.
Hubby thinks decent wage, I think piss-take!
Opinions please!

Your being paid considerably more than any of these jobs. You are on approximately £25 ish before tax. A waiter etc will be on in most cases minimum wage of £12.50 ish before tax.

The reason for your wage dropping lower is down to earnings in other work and deductions for pensions etc which you previously told us about.

YABVU

Oh and as for which jobs are important and which are not is all about context. eg A nice restaurant cannot serve up food without someone working hard washing the dishes and peeling the spuds. The ingredients cannot reach the restaurant without somebody working hard to deliver them. The truck they use wouldn't be able to do it without a mechanic maintaining it.

Every job is important, and if you are thinking otherwise I don't think teaching young minds is suitable for you.

With a few exceptions for excellent cleaners, receptionists and waiters, I do think a teacher should be earning more. However, you didn’t ask first how much you would be paid. You quoted your net salary. You have a part time job and your wages from that will use all your tax free allowance so any wages from the supply job will all be taxed. For a supply job your years of experience do not count for anything. Are you being employed through an agency that is taking a cut or are you being employed directly by the school?

You're not a maths teacher are you

Go and work as a waitress, receptionist or cleaner then - nobody's stopping you!

After tax and NI? I think it is pretty good. Makes it over 21 pounds before tax and NI

If Mothers that teach are struggling with not being available for school runs and school events , how do they feel they will cope with the alternative of not being available for the entire school holidays? It is impossible to cover school holidays with the holiday allowance you have from most, if not all, jobs. It’s great that some people are able to WFH during the holidays and still do their work ….. personally , like a lot of people, I could not do my job satisfactorily and take care of my children .

I've worked in many different jobs, some in responsible positions. I can honestly say that waiting tables was the hardest. To be good at it you had to be able to juggle multiple balls at once. Far more than the kitchen.

Is it not only 5 over minimum wage though is it? You said net, so if it is 21 it is 9-10 over min wage

Yep, totally agree with you!

Fellow teacher here. I think that is pretty terrible and to be honest you could earn WAY more by doing private tutoring. I think I would do that as you have lots of flexibility (tho of course it’s after school and weekends..)

But that 16 would be before tax. So less than you are currently getting

Who thinks that? You actually earn more than them anyway, so why do you care?

Glorified babysitters?! I cannot understand how people who trained extensively, spent a shit ton of money to earn a degree and then work to educate and keep your children safe are treated with such disgusting disrespect. I have worked as both a class teacher and a supply teacher and I can hand on heart say that my time supply teaching was worse in a lot of ways - the behaviour was horrendous and you had no idea of school routines and systems day to day. And you absolutely do have to stay behind and mark the bloody work!

All the comments saying 'go get another job then'. We'll all be fucked when all the teachers go and do this and there's none left. It's going that way and blatant disrespect for the profession is one of the reasons. Good luck when your children are being 'babysat' by people who are unqualified and your children don't receive an education.

I doubt private tutoring would work out paying more. Outside of London the going rate for primary school tutoring seems to be around £30 an hour. You still have to take the tax and ni implication into consideration along with travel to at least 5 different locations and probably supply resources that private homes won't have compared to a school.

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All the confusion on this thread is insane!

For a comparable hourly rate (one that can be compared fairly with another) is to understand:

• Gross hourly rate (before ANY deduction as we all have different rates especially on a second job)
• Contractual paid hours, not start and finish of 08:30 - 15:30 Did the contract say the lunch break is paid for? I’m sure anyone working over 6 hours is required to take a break and it’s not paid for. It’s misleading to include the break when calculating your hourly rate

The £16/hr for the cleaning job - how much will you need to deduct on your self assessment? Or will it be a PAYE? Either way I’m sure it’ll be a lot less than £16

My God. Are you OK @Youthiswastedontheyoung ? Seriously

It’s a terrible wage for someone of your experience. It’s the same as a nurse in NHS.
No wonder there are so many vacancies in both professions.

You think £25 an hour before tax is low?

I work in a factory. No qualifications needed, no degrees. I earn £16.70ph

Some people don't live in the real world do they?

Now nurses, yes they are horrendously poorly paid. A mid level nurse will be on around £15 an hour before tax which is under £12 after.