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To think this is an unacceptable wage?

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 09:41

I'm a qualified teacher with 21 years' experience who has just started supply so flexibility with a poorly husband and three kids of my own.
Just did a full day supply (8.30-3.30) and came out with £112 net.
Hubby thinks decent wage, I think piss-take!
Opinions please!

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:39

@slashlover I also have two teenagers?

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Fluufer · 14/11/2024 19:39

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:37

@SabreIsMyFave What fantastic advice! I'll pack it in tomorrow and you can pay my rent and bills! 👏

It wasn't long ago that you wanted to pack it for uc and social housing...

SabreIsMyFave · 14/11/2024 19:40

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:37

@SabreIsMyFave What fantastic advice! I'll pack it in tomorrow and you can pay my rent and bills! 👏

Or you could get another job, if 'being a teacher' is so bad. Confused

I never said pack in your job, but you knew that. Wink

Change careers if teaching is such a hideous job with such poor pay! 🙄

SabreIsMyFave · 14/11/2024 19:41

Fluufer · 14/11/2024 19:39

It wasn't long ago that you wanted to pack it for uc and social housing...

Well spotted!

SabreIsMyFave · 14/11/2024 19:41

GlasgowGal82 · 14/11/2024 19:15

There's no such thing as a minimum/maximum income for social housing. However, it is in high demand and if you are appropriately housed you are likely to be put on a long waiting list. If you are privately rented there is no harm in getting on the list though. You should look into your benefits entitllements and see whether you are eligible for any payment. Citizens Advice can do a benefits check for you, or there are online calculators.

Of course there is an income limit when you want to be considered for social housing. Many councils/social housing landlords will have it at £30,000 a year per household. Some are £40,000 to £50,000 a year, They're not going to dish out affordable housing to a family with £150,000 a year income! It's literally for people on low incomes, who can't afford to buy a property, and can't afford private let.

Once you are in however, you could earn a million a year and won't be evicted. (If it's a lifetime tenancy obviously.) If you have 5 year tenancies though, (like some social housing landlords do,) and your income has gone from say, £33,000 to £42,000 in that time, the landlord is under no obligation to carry on the tenancy... (if, for example, the limit is £40,000.)

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Edingril · 14/11/2024 19:41

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 09:52

I don't think £16 ph is acceptable tbh. 4 years at uni, degree and PGCE, 21 years of teaching.

I presume somewhere in those 4 years of uni you would have known how to find out what you would be on?

Fluufer · 14/11/2024 19:42

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:39

@slashlover I also have two teenagers?

Still not overcrowded. You would be told the teens can share. If you have even 1 reception room downstairs that will also be counted as a sleep space. Not even close to overcrowded.

Snoopybird · 14/11/2024 19:42

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 18:58

@Snoopybird Unfortunately not currently possible with a 4 yo.

Ah yes, it’s really hard with young children I know. I had to cut my hours quite a lot. Once they’re a bit older it will free you up to work more, but realise that doesn’t help in this moment, and it does completely suck that normally both parents have to work full time to sustain the home, very unhealthy pressure to put families under. At least you are saving on childcare I suppose. Best of luck and hope you find a way out of teaching eventually.

Snoopybird · 14/11/2024 19:44

Edingril · 14/11/2024 19:41

I presume somewhere in those 4 years of uni you would have known how to find out what you would be on?

Teachers have taken a huge real-terms wage cut. Salary was much more competitive and conditions much better 20+ years ago. Not any more.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:44

@Fluufer According to government website a person over 21 needs own room? My eldest is there in 3 years?

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Fluufer · 14/11/2024 19:45

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:44

@Fluufer According to government website a person over 21 needs own room? My eldest is there in 3 years?

Only if you don't have a living room and only if he's actually living with you. And only in 3 years when he's 21. At which point you'd most likely to be told he should find his own place to live.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:47

@Fluufer How many 21 year-olds do you know that can afford their own place to live?! I'm 44 and still bloody renting!!

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Anoisagusaris · 14/11/2024 19:48

i haven’t read every post but a teacher appears to not know the difference between gross and net pay???

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:49

@Anoisagusaris And even one with a Masters(!) The pay is shit. End of.

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slashlover · 14/11/2024 19:50

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:44

@Fluufer According to government website a person over 21 needs own room? My eldest is there in 3 years?

Bedroom 1 - You and DH
Bedroom 2 - 17 year old
Bedroom 3 - 14 year old.

The 4 year old doesn't count for another 6 years. Your 2 oldest children have their own rooms. Your living room also counts as a bedroom, did you click the link I posted?

Fluufer · 14/11/2024 19:51

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:47

@Fluufer How many 21 year-olds do you know that can afford their own place to live?! I'm 44 and still bloody renting!!

I didn't say it's great. But it is what the council will tell you. They will tell him to rent a room. And if you do have a living room, you still wouldn't be overcrowded anyway.

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:52

@slashlover Yes. Somebody said 14 and 17 can share one of the single rooms so I was replying re that and the fact he will need his own room at 21.

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Worried8263839 · 14/11/2024 19:52

Surely you knew your hourly rate before you decided to work supply??

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:54

It appears to vary according to school/agency.

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slashlover · 14/11/2024 19:55

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:52

@slashlover Yes. Somebody said 14 and 17 can share one of the single rooms so I was replying re that and the fact he will need his own room at 21.

Again, he has his own room and will do for the next 6 years. Even if the four year old is in with him then that is his own room as the 4 year old doesn't count.

Children under the age of 10 do not count. They can share a room with anyone.

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:57

@slashlover I see. Find it worrying they would deem it acceptable for a 4 yo of opposite sex to share with 17/18/19/20 yo but if they are the rules...

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Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:58

@Stealthmodemama No clue. The £45k is ridiculous!

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slashlover · 14/11/2024 20:00

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 19:57

@slashlover I see. Find it worrying they would deem it acceptable for a 4 yo of opposite sex to share with 17/18/19/20 yo but if they are the rules...

She could also go in with you and your DH, or set up a bedroom in the living room.

You realise there are homeless families living in one room in hostels/hotels?

Youthiswastedontheyoung · 14/11/2024 20:03

@slashlover She is in with us.
The difference being we both are in work.

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