To think this is an unacceptable wage?

[Youthiswastedontheyoung]

I'm a qualified teacher with 21 years' experience who has just started supply so flexibility with a poorly husband and three kids of my own.
Just did a full day supply (8.30-3.30) and came out with £112 net.
Hubby thinks decent wage, I think piss-take!
Opinions please!

People on this thread have been punching you down saying you should be happy with your lot and what you are paid (you shouldn't, your pay is insultingly low, like a lot of people's pay in the UK). I called them out for it.

The trouble is, you're doing the same as them now, punching down people who don't have a degree, thinking you should be paid more. I would expect better from a teacher to be honest.

Why should you be paid more than a cleaner? We're all caught up in this capitalist system together aren't we? And if my private sector law firm wants to pay a cleaner more than the public sector wants to pay a teacher, then it is what it is. Hell, I think I worked out the public sector is happier to even pay a HLTA more than you per hour because things are so messed up.

There is no advantage to punching down. We need to support other people on low pay and start punching up.

If people with degrees were to be paid the same as people without, what would be the point in going to university for 3/4 years (and getting into debt in the process?) @ShinyShona

Well exactly. It’s quite a common debate these days isn’t it, is uni really worth it? In so many cases, no. If you’re looking at monetary value uni is absolutely not worth it for teaching or nursing.

It's a degree lots of people have them. You went to uni for a few years for a big piss up. You need to come down of your high horse

Try being on a TA's wage!

@IVFmumoftwo I was - for five years. People have no idea how appalling that is, either.

What because I don't agree with you. You work part time on a decent wage compared to most, you have lots of flexibility in how you have chose to work so you get to spend plenty of time with your family and your still not happy. Going to uni for a few years doesn't mean you have an easy ride for the rest of your life and that your above others. I hate to burst your bubble but life doesn't work like that.

Yes we do it's minimum wage

@Differentstarts What do you do for a living (job)?

Retail

Agreed - I went to uni then into teaching , DH didn’t go to uni and started his own business…

3 prizes for guessing who earns more 🤷🏽‍♀️.

But @Youthiswastedontheyoung I went to uni because I enjoyed studying literature and wanted to learn. Surely the point of a degree isn’t just to earn more money.

Plus to just think having a degree should entitle you to earn more isn’t fair really. Why should someone who starts out as a pot washer in a kitchen and works their way up to head chef be paid less than a recruitment consultant who did a graduate scheme? The very same type of recruitment consultant who is now selling your labour as a supply teacher!

She is paid way more than a TA. Most TA's only get roughly £1600 per month.

Of course teachers get paid more than TAs!!!!!!!

Choices. You can choose to be a cleaner, a cleaner can't just choose to be a teacher. A degree stopped making you special decades ago unfortunately.

@Fluufer If a cleaner would like to become a teacher why not?

Because they need a degree. Obviously.

@Fluufer They can go to uni?

Well yes but then they'd be in the same situation as you - degree = choices. Which was my point. A cleaner without a degree can't apply for a teaching position tomorrow. A teacher can a apply for a cleaning job. You're being obtuse.

I have a first class science degree but I still choose to do unskilled work that I enjoy and is stress free, over getting a ‘proper job’. For numerous reasons, this kind of work is more compatible with my life at the moment. And £20 an hour (per dog!) isn’t a bad wage for hanging out with dogs.

I thought you were the same poster who posted a lot last year about being a TA/HTLA (same difference in my school!).

Weren’t you going off to train to be a counsellor? Sadly I know several teachers who have done that and quit, finding it was a very expensive training route with all the supervision needed, and quickly realised it was very difficult to earn a good wage.

@Shinyandnew1 I've deferred until next year but cannot wait to start now. Been granted a scholarship 🙌

Did you not know the rate of pay before you accepted the work? Presumably not if you're shocked it's too low. You could possibly have negotiated it up. Or looked for something else.

Did you not know the rate of pay before you accepted the work? Presumably not if you're shocked it's too low. You could possibly have negotiated it up. Or looked for something else.

Good luck with it-the only people (all ex-teachers!) I know who are managing to keep going with it as an alternative career are doing so because they have very high earning partners!