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SIL describing herself as "retired" pissing me off

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SacreBleugh · 12/11/2024 18:07

I have recently retired. I've worked full time my entire career, as well as bringing up 4 kids. I know. Heroic.
My SIL is a SAHM to 3 grown up kids. She's had the odd temporary very part time hobby job in the 30 years I have known her. She is now also describing herself as "retired". I'm not sure why I find this irritating.

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Slobberchops1 · 12/11/2024 18:36

Sounds like sour grapes

Jifmicroliquid · 12/11/2024 18:36

My friend never worked once she got married in her earlier twenties. It used to annoy me when she talked about ‘pay day’. She meant her husbands pay day (“thank god it’s payday” that kind of thing)
It used to drive me mad for some reason.

WildGuide · 12/11/2024 18:36

Silly thing to be wound up about. She used to work, she now doesn’t. That’s what retirement is. There aren’t degrees of retirement based on what kind of job you had.

LlynTegid · 12/11/2024 18:36

Late 50s is old enough to call yourself retired I think, much as the seemingly copycat behaviour I can understand being annoying.

CheekyHobson · 12/11/2024 18:36

You’re annoyed because you’re envious and you think you're better than her because you worked instead of parenting full time.

HTH

SacreBleugh · 12/11/2024 18:37

PiggieWig · 12/11/2024 18:24

I find when I feel resentful of someone it’s usually something in me that I’m resenting. And in your situation I’d be feeling like I resented having to work for so hard and so long to have what someone else ‘appears’ to have handed to them on a plate.

It’s similar to the resentment I feel when my friend tells me she’s a single parent for the week when her DH works away. Sure, it’s tough, but it’s not the same as 20 odd years of making every single decision and carrying all the weight and responsibilities on my own.

You feel your years of hard work have been diminished by her putting herself in the same bracket as you.

Exactly so. I appreciate it's not a good look!

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BoredZelda · 12/11/2024 18:37

I think it's because I feel I have worked so hard and am delighted to be retired

I work, but not particularly hard. Will I be allowed to say I'm retired?

Tryingtokeepgoing · 12/11/2024 18:37

TroysMammy · 12/11/2024 18:32

She's not retirement age until she is 67. She is however unwaged.

Well I’m 52, and I have retired from paid work, so I generally say I’m retired. However, I do like how a PP relayed how her son described her - wilfully unemployed. I might use that instead 🤣

HappyTwo · 12/11/2024 18:37

I’m a full time mum with new adults in 6th form - also in my 50s. I have started using the wood retired myself because it’s really means not working and likely to never again.

i think you are being over sensitive

stayathomer · 12/11/2024 18:37

What’s a hobby job? Just wondering as I jump between sahm and working in retail and want to scream when people say it’s nice I’ve gotten myself ‘a little job’. I think if you delve you’ll find she was possibly forced through circumstances to give up jobs over the years (kids always getting sick/ no childcare etc). I may be projecting but it’s a situation I know a lot of people in and it gets annoying people acting like we’re just not wanting to work!!!

Zanatdy · 12/11/2024 18:38

TeenToTwenties · 12/11/2024 18:21

I'm a SAHM.
When my youngest leaves home I will be retired.

How else would you describe the occupation of a 70yo ex SAHM?

Unemployed is the correct term surely

Birdscratch · 12/11/2024 18:38

She doesn’t work. She’s never worked. She’s not retired from anything!

Sprinklesandsprinkles · 12/11/2024 18:38

I honestly think the mumsnet tide has swept everyone to the side of YABU but I totally understand it annoying you!! Nothing wrong with the life she's lead but she can't go around saying she's retired like she's had years of hard work

SemperIdem · 12/11/2024 18:38

I can see why that irritates you. Retiring suggests she has been in gainful employment and she has not.

I can see the perspective that she says it for ease in general conversation too.

SacreBleugh · 12/11/2024 18:38

Lentilweaver · 12/11/2024 18:32

You are basically unhappy with your choices and think your SIL has made better ones.

No. Not even slightly true.

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Cheepcheepcheep · 12/11/2024 18:39

You should have met my great aunt. When her ex husband died (25 years post divorce) she started describing herself as widowed rather than divorced 😂

TunipTheVegimal24 · 12/11/2024 18:39

Well her job was being a SAHM, and her kids are grown up and no longer live at home. Thus, she is retired. Sounds like you are belittling her achievement tbh. Like raising three children is easy!

SabrinaThwaite · 12/11/2024 18:39

When my DF died, my DM described herself as a ‘retired civil servant’ to the registrar. She ‘retired’ in the late 1950s (about 60 years ago at the time) after about 10 years of actual working.

I was a bit Hmm

MrsPinkSky · 12/11/2024 18:39

Grooch · 12/11/2024 18:35

I think the disdain towards women who stay at home to look after house/children is really nasty. The capitalist system wants you to think that paid employment is the only thing of value to society but that’s far from true. Tbh ‘retired’ is probably the description that best describes her situation. It’s certainly better than ‘sahm’ (because her kids are adults) or ‘unemployed’ (because that implies she’s looking for work)

I think the disdain towards women who stay at home to look after house/children is really nasty.

I know, I wonder if there's a mean old girls retirement home somewhere, where 'proper' retired Mumsnetters can go to bitch to their heart's content? 😁

SacreBleugh · 12/11/2024 18:40

ohtowinthelottery · 12/11/2024 18:33

I haven't been in paid employment for 25 years. I had to give up work to become an unpaid carer. I did that for 17 years until the person I cared for died. I didn't return to work. My previous employment afforded me a final salary pension which I started receiving this year.
When people ask if I work/what I do, I tell them I'm retired. What else am I going to say?
Would I annoy you too?

Of course not. That's not even remotely similar

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BoredZelda · 12/11/2024 18:40

It's annoying that she finds excuses to be paid benefits which takes from the pot of those who need it more, but she says her back twinges so her doctor completes the forms.

Because it is that easy to get disability benefits. 🙄

Zanatdy · 12/11/2024 18:40

I can understand your annoyance. SAHM isn’t a job so you can’t suddenly be retired from that long since they grew up. Retired indicates you were gainfully employed. Otherwise people may ask, oh what was your role before you retired. SAHM? Oh how old are your children then? 45 and 43. Oh.

MrsPinkSky · 12/11/2024 18:41

Sprinklesandsprinkles · 12/11/2024 18:38

I honestly think the mumsnet tide has swept everyone to the side of YABU but I totally understand it annoying you!! Nothing wrong with the life she's lead but she can't go around saying she's retired like she's had years of hard work

Yes she can and she does.

The beauty of living in a free country.

Birdscratch · 12/11/2024 18:41

Sounds like you are belittling her achievement tbh. Like raising three children is easy!

Everyone who has children raises them! That’s not a job, it’s being a parent!

anniegun · 12/11/2024 18:41

I am sure you also piss her off in other ways