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Queen Camilla taking part in a documentary to highlight abuse of women

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OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 20:23

Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

OP posts:
ZingyGoldTraybake · 12/11/2024 20:08

Ill happily call her a queen consort but calling her a queen is offensive to Queen Liz 2nd.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 20:08

Livingtothefull · 12/11/2024 19:40

Well maybe if the royals stopped helping themselves to huge amounts of money tax free - including taking from charities ie from donations made by members of the public on their taxed income - there would be more money for refuges and survivors' needs.

I'm afraid I take everything any of the royals say about social issues with a big pinch of salt.

I absolutely agree with your last part.

ZingyGoldTraybake · 12/11/2024 20:09

Does Chas still talk to his plants?

Havalona · 12/11/2024 20:10

Is the RF a catalyst for all the ills around us I often wonder?

Do they embody avarice, sloth, adultery, pride, lust etc.? You know, the deadly sins in the Bible, that book that is symbolic of the CofE of which King Charles is the Head?

You couldn't make this duplicity up if you tried.

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 20:12

Havalona · 12/11/2024 20:10

Is the RF a catalyst for all the ills around us I often wonder?

Do they embody avarice, sloth, adultery, pride, lust etc.? You know, the deadly sins in the Bible, that book that is symbolic of the CofE of which King Charles is the Head?

You couldn't make this duplicity up if you tried.

Yeah the timing of the Welby revelations aren't helping are they?

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 20:13

Havalona · 12/11/2024 20:10

Is the RF a catalyst for all the ills around us I often wonder?

Do they embody avarice, sloth, adultery, pride, lust etc.? You know, the deadly sins in the Bible, that book that is symbolic of the CofE of which King Charles is the Head?

You couldn't make this duplicity up if you tried.

Many people at the very top are evil and corrupted.

The biggest mystery is why we keep allowing a royal family to be there.

Livingtothefull · 12/11/2024 20:14

GetrudeCoppard · 12/11/2024 20:02

😂 let’s apply to canonise her.

Talking about things that happened doesn’t stop people ‘resting in peace’ whatever that means. Any group discussion about Diana is guaranteed to include James Hewitt, Will Carling & Hasnat Khan to name but a few. It’s the same as discussing scandals attached to any celebrity - alive or dead.

I don't and didn't make any claim about stopping people resting in peace - just that it would be nice if Diana's memory were left alone and not unnecessarily besmirched (I would say that about any deceased person btw, and it is not the same thing as legitimate criticism that has relevance today).

And this discussion is not actually about Diana. There is no need to mention all her boyfriends' names, as if having a few boyfriends discredits her and is in itself unsavoury.

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 12/11/2024 20:16

It’s a shame that there is one poster in particular who gives so little a shit about victims of domestic violence that she has felt the need to derail the thread in this way.

And before someone says that there have been others who have agreed, there is only one who has posted on here dozens and dozens of times with the clear intention of derailing the thread.

Maybe go out and get a real job, and if you want to start a Camilla hate fest, go and start your own thread.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 20:20

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 12/11/2024 20:16

It’s a shame that there is one poster in particular who gives so little a shit about victims of domestic violence that she has felt the need to derail the thread in this way.

And before someone says that there have been others who have agreed, there is only one who has posted on here dozens and dozens of times with the clear intention of derailing the thread.

Maybe go out and get a real job, and if you want to start a Camilla hate fest, go and start your own thread.

You are derailing this particular page, as, if you look, multiple posters on this page have been posting about how dark and corrupt the royal family are.

Then you come on and post this odd post.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 20:20

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 20:12

Yeah the timing of the Welby revelations aren't helping are they?

They certainly aren't.

Fenellapitstop · 12/11/2024 20:20

This is such a weird thread

None of us, as far as I can tell were personally involved in whatever marital shenanigans occurred within the very messy 70-90's period in the royal family.

Camilla has worked for many years supporting da charities and sarc's

If you've ever had to use a sarc or take someone there you would understand how valuable any support is.

sweatervest · 12/11/2024 20:21

i thought the programme was good/interesting/sad/essential. all of those.

although i know i did the right thing, the programme confirmed to me i did the right thing when i did and how precarious the whole thing/situations like that is/are.

when you feel like you've been buried, in fact you've been planted. (as i read on the www recently). that wouldn't have helped me at the time but it's a nice thing (to me, anyway)

EdithWeston · 12/11/2024 20:22

Fenellapitstop · 12/11/2024 20:20

This is such a weird thread

None of us, as far as I can tell were personally involved in whatever marital shenanigans occurred within the very messy 70-90's period in the royal family.

Camilla has worked for many years supporting da charities and sarc's

If you've ever had to use a sarc or take someone there you would understand how valuable any support is.

Exactly.

What the documentary sought to highlight seems to have got rather lost from the thread

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 20:23

Havalona · 12/11/2024 20:10

Is the RF a catalyst for all the ills around us I often wonder?

Do they embody avarice, sloth, adultery, pride, lust etc.? You know, the deadly sins in the Bible, that book that is symbolic of the CofE of which King Charles is the Head?

You couldn't make this duplicity up if you tried.

They're definitely not a good example in any way.

Livingtothefull · 12/11/2024 20:23

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 12/11/2024 20:16

It’s a shame that there is one poster in particular who gives so little a shit about victims of domestic violence that she has felt the need to derail the thread in this way.

And before someone says that there have been others who have agreed, there is only one who has posted on here dozens and dozens of times with the clear intention of derailing the thread.

Maybe go out and get a real job, and if you want to start a Camilla hate fest, go and start your own thread.

OK to unpick this:

I am not sure it is true that the poster has derailed the thread. It is not about domestic violence per se; rather it is specifically about the suitability (or otherwise) of Camilla to host a documentary on this subject.

It was a provocative post from the OP who described herself as 'apoplectic'. In that context I don't see any derailment going on.

I don't see any correlation between disagreeing with Camilla hosting the doc, and that being proof that the poster doesn't give a shit about DV victims.

I didn't know there was a rule about how many times a poster may post.

It is past 8pm so the poster may well have a 'real job', I personally manage to fit posting around my day job.

OrwellianTimes · 12/11/2024 20:44

ZingyGoldTraybake · 12/11/2024 20:08

Ill happily call her a queen consort but calling her a queen is offensive to Queen Liz 2nd.

Queen Elizabeth said a year before her death that Camilla would be Queen.

Your offence has no basis in reality.

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 20:47

Is every Queen (Consort) who followed a Queen (Regnant) an insult to the memory of the dead one?

Apparently QEII liked her. On their marriage she said her son was "home and dry with the woman he loved". She didn't sound particularly insulted.

Enchente · 12/11/2024 20:48

Livingtothefull · 12/11/2024 20:23

OK to unpick this:

I am not sure it is true that the poster has derailed the thread. It is not about domestic violence per se; rather it is specifically about the suitability (or otherwise) of Camilla to host a documentary on this subject.

It was a provocative post from the OP who described herself as 'apoplectic'. In that context I don't see any derailment going on.

I don't see any correlation between disagreeing with Camilla hosting the doc, and that being proof that the poster doesn't give a shit about DV victims.

I didn't know there was a rule about how many times a poster may post.

It is past 8pm so the poster may well have a 'real job', I personally manage to fit posting around my day job.

Except the poster who has derailed the thread (in my view), is undermining the seriousness of DV by likening the emotional turmoil of an affair in the same category of emotional abuse such as coercive control and gaslighting. Not a single person on this thread can have evidence Camilla did that, and its that which is being used to judge her suitability.

The statements from that poster are clearly available on page 1 or 2.

ZingyGoldTraybake · 12/11/2024 20:51

OrwellianTimes · 12/11/2024 20:44

Queen Elizabeth said a year before her death that Camilla would be Queen.

Your offence has no basis in reality.

Liz was a professional and toed the line. I doubt she cared much for the likes of Camilla.

OrwellianTimes · 12/11/2024 20:52

ZingyGoldTraybake · 12/11/2024 20:51

Liz was a professional and toed the line. I doubt she cared much for the likes of Camilla.

That’s not the point. Liz said Camilla would be Queen. It wasn’t a matter of liking her, it was a matter of fact.

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 20:53

If your only counter to actual events is "Well I expect she didn't mean it", it's not a very convincing point, is it?

And if we're talking about "respect", you're calling her "Liz".

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 21:18

Enchente · 12/11/2024 20:48

Except the poster who has derailed the thread (in my view), is undermining the seriousness of DV by likening the emotional turmoil of an affair in the same category of emotional abuse such as coercive control and gaslighting. Not a single person on this thread can have evidence Camilla did that, and its that which is being used to judge her suitability.

The statements from that poster are clearly available on page 1 or 2.

Edited

Do you even realise what this thread is about.
Do you know what thread you're on?

This thread was started by the OP to point out how hypocritical it is for Camilla to do this documentary. It says that clearly in her opening post.

The OP wrote how hypocritical it is for Camilla to be doing this documentary on abuse, considering Camilla's own past of being an emotional abuser herself

I then greed with what the OP said

To say that me AGREEING with the OP is me "derailing the thread", doesn't make any sense in the slightest.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 21:20

OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 20:23

Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

Just to say again.

Yes, I agree with you OP

Livingtothefull · 12/11/2024 21:21

Enchente · 12/11/2024 20:48

Except the poster who has derailed the thread (in my view), is undermining the seriousness of DV by likening the emotional turmoil of an affair in the same category of emotional abuse such as coercive control and gaslighting. Not a single person on this thread can have evidence Camilla did that, and its that which is being used to judge her suitability.

The statements from that poster are clearly available on page 1 or 2.

Edited

I just don't see evidence in the posts of undermining the seriousness of DV by pointing out that cheating is part of a spectrum of emotional abuse. although it is qualitatively different from actual physical violence. And there are plenty of voices out there stating that cheating is emotional abuse in itself.

For evidence we have primarily Diana's statements.....although a few posters on here seem to be trying to undermine these by portraying her as a slut. No there is no definitive evidence of what Camilla did or didn't do, and I am not disputing her sincerity. But the fact is that she is a deeply divisive figure like it or not, which is a problem if you are trying to keep the focus on this cause.

Enchente · 12/11/2024 21:37

I don’t see evidence of it being deeply divisive, except a few posters as is their right/perspective. And then there is the other one.

What I have seen is posters who’ve actually watched the programme, some of whom may have been victims, completely unbothered about her involvement. Seems it’s only an issue for people who dislike Camilla and the RF generally. Pages of this thread are about tittle tattle. I don’t care what people read in the daily mail and who is alleged to have done what and who is ‘manky. All unsubstantiated.

What are the government doing to highlight this issue? Any other groups with as large a reach picking up the baton? Those are the questions, not is she a smoker.