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Queen Camilla taking part in a documentary to highlight abuse of women

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OWRLOSERS · 11/11/2024 20:23

Apoplectic that ITV have chosen Queen Camilla to host a documentary highlighting the domestic abuse of women when she was King Charle's OW for many years and complicit in his abuse of Princess Diana.

World gone mad!

OP posts:
Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:48

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:42

So they were clearly meant to be a couple if nearly 40 years on they're still together!

Or camilla is just the most manipulative of his side pieces.

I remember people saying that Camilla knew how to talk to Charles the way that he wanted. He wanted to be fawned over and constantly told he was amazing.

Camilla would constantly call him intelligent, amazing, wonderful

She sucked up to him

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:48

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:46

Yes but why talk about when it just started.

A lot of the main explosive events happened in the 1990s.

In the 1990s -
Diana released a book, it mentioned Charles and Camillas affair.
Charles did a documentary admitting adultery.
Diana did an interview saying " there were three of us in the marriage."
Charles and Diana separated, and then divorced.

They all happened in the 1990s

All those actions by Diana are quite spiteful in light of her own behaviour in the marriage. It certainly makes me see her in a different light, manipulative maybe.

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:49

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:48

Or camilla is just the most manipulative of his side pieces.

I remember people saying that Camilla knew how to talk to Charles the way that he wanted. He wanted to be fawned over and constantly told he was amazing.

Camilla would constantly call him intelligent, amazing, wonderful

She sucked up to him

You mean to tell us you don't talk to the love of your life in a positive manner?

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:51

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:49

You mean to tell us you don't talk to the love of your life in a positive manner?

Theres a difference.

She was completely over the top with him, to manipulate him.

It's called love bombing to get your own way. She told him what he wanted to hear

She said to him once

"oh darling there's an awfully big brain in that head of yours isn't there, oh darling"

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:52

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:48

All those actions by Diana are quite spiteful in light of her own behaviour in the marriage. It certainly makes me see her in a different light, manipulative maybe.

What about charles doing a documentary aswell. Where he admitted adultery?

5128gap · 12/11/2024 16:54

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:46

Yes but why talk about when it just started.

A lot of the main explosive events happened in the 1990s.

In the 1990s -
Diana released a book, it mentioned Charles and Camillas affair.
Charles did a documentary admitting adultery.
Diana did an interview saying " there were three of us in the marriage."
Charles and Diana separated, and then divorced.

They all happened in the 1990s

I see. I thought from your earlier posts you were coming at this from a position of concern for Diana. Her misfortune commenced many years before the royals decided to let Joe Public in on the act. So the relevant period for you would surely be the time she was 'the victim' not the time we got to hear about it?

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:55

What I don't like the charled and Diana thing is things said in paul burrells book.

He said that Charles bought the highgrove house, simply because it was near where camilla lived.

He said that camilla used to come round to Charles's house to visit him, and he (the butelr) would write in a diary who was coming.

Diana saw the diary, and the butler said that prince charles screamed at him, and told him that he had to lie to Diana. It was such a lot of lies.

And the worst thing is that Charles had all the power, he knew that Diana couldn't leave the marriage

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:56

5128gap · 12/11/2024 16:54

I see. I thought from your earlier posts you were coming at this from a position of concern for Diana. Her misfortune commenced many years before the royals decided to let Joe Public in on the act. So the relevant period for you would surely be the time she was 'the victim' not the time we got to hear about it?

She was the victim in the 1990s though. They were still married into the 1990s.

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:56

Couldn't leave the marriage, and yet, divorced.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:57

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:48

All those actions by Diana are quite spiteful in light of her own behaviour in the marriage. It certainly makes me see her in a different light, manipulative maybe.

What do you mean "see her in a new light".

Surely you already knew that all of those things happened.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 16:59

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:56

Couldn't leave the marriage, and yet, divorced.

At the time she couldn't just leave the marriage no. They were told to work it out.
It wasn't the done thing for the Prince of Wales to divorce. So they were stuck in the marriage for ages.

They had to later on get the queen and church leader's permission to separate, and then divorce.

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 16:59

Bloody hell OP, can't you just be glad that someone high profile is shining a light on the issue.

If you actually watched the programme, you would have discovered that the charity had sent hundreds of letters to high profile women and none of them were prepared to be the face of the charity. They approached the then Duchess of Cornwall because they thought that she would be sympathetic and she was.

I think what she is doing is admirable. Can you imagine previous Queens saying the word "rape" and "sexual abuse" in public?

Zimunya · 12/11/2024 17:01

Createausername1970 · 11/11/2024 20:40

I very much regarded her as the OW initially and didn't have much time for her. But over the years I have definitely changed my mind about her.

I very much regard her as the OW, and still don't have much time for her. I think it's appalling that she's now the Queen given that she basically slept her way to the top. In short, I'm no fan. BUT, anything that shines a light on domestic violence, and may help people who are facing abuse, has my support. Bad people can do good things.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 17:04

I think people would be less angry if Diana had gone on to have a second happy marriage of her own.

Charles took all of her best years. And he made her waste most of her life in a loveless marriage. Diana never got to experience a loving happy marriage.

Them Diana died, and charles is lovely and happy with his sidechick. It all leaves a bad taste

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 17:06

She's not really the queen

Of course she's the bloody queen. She's married to the King.

Unless you're saying that only Elizabeth II, Victoria, Queen Anne, Queen Mary II, Elizabeth I, Mary I and Matilda were actual Queens?

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 17:07

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 17:06

She's not really the queen

Of course she's the bloody queen. She's married to the King.

Unless you're saying that only Elizabeth II, Victoria, Queen Anne, Queen Mary II, Elizabeth I, Mary I and Matilda were actual Queens?

Edited

I think the poster means that a lot of people don't really see her as queen. They just see her as a side chick.

MajorCarolDanvers · 12/11/2024 17:08

She has supported DV charities for years. Actively.

it’s not a glamorous cause and she’s done a lot to support these charities and raise the profile of these issues.

Havalona · 12/11/2024 17:09

The pair of them are well suited. Few redeeming qualities in either of them IMV.

That would cover morals, money and manipulation.

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 17:09

Camilla is just an old biddy that was a side piece

Nice.

Do you realise that had Diana lived she would now be in her sixties and GASP eventually she would be in her seventies too. Like Camilla is now.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 17:10

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 17:09

Camilla is just an old biddy that was a side piece

Nice.

Do you realise that had Diana lived she would now be in her sixties and GASP eventually she would be in her seventies too. Like Camilla is now.

Yes I like many old people. I've no problem with old people. Some of my favourite people are in their 70s.

I don't like Camilla, which is why I will call her an old biddy.

WestwardHo1 · 12/11/2024 17:14

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 17:07

I think the poster means that a lot of people don't really see her as queen. They just see her as a side chick.

Well then they're just as daft then. All this "not my queen" is insane. Since when have we chosen members of the royal family? And I don't say this because I'm a royalist - I say it because those are facts.

Be a republican if you want. However hereditary monarchy isn't a popularity contest. You get to be monarch through and accident of birth, and the person you marry is then your queen if you are male.

Do none of you want to actually talk about the content of the programme, or the reality of domestic violence? I thought she did a great job myself - she was interested, compassionate, matter of fact and humble. She was also extremely kind and sensitive to the women she met. Apart from Sophie (another outsider who married "in") I can't see the other royal women using their position to help other women this way. Can you?

5128gap · 12/11/2024 17:16

Menowhatdoyoucallit · 12/11/2024 16:42

So they were clearly meant to be a couple if nearly 40 years on they're still together!

I find QC marginally less repellent than KC, so arguably, if he were not so well placed I'd have thought she could have done better. However my interest in them as people is slim to none and in all honesty I care about their happiness about as much as they do mine. I do care about VAWG and DV though, and if QC wants to support the work she will be useful.

user2848502016 · 12/11/2024 17:17

Good for her. She's been doing great work with DV charities for years.
I'm sure I read that it's because of personal experience in her own family- her parents relationship maybe?

Charles and Diana's marriage was doomed from the start, they would never have been happy together. Calling it an abusive relationship is a massive stretch though

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 17:24

user2848502016 · 12/11/2024 17:17

Good for her. She's been doing great work with DV charities for years.
I'm sure I read that it's because of personal experience in her own family- her parents relationship maybe?

Charles and Diana's marriage was doomed from the start, they would never have been happy together. Calling it an abusive relationship is a massive stretch though

Of course it was an abusive relationship.

Look up the definition of abuse.

Lying and gaslighting to someone is abuse.

Paul Burrell, Diana's butler, wrote that Prince Charles told the butler to lie to Diana about Camilla coming over to Charles house.

It's manipulation and abuse.

Sylviacrystal · 12/11/2024 17:25

Camilla cares about stopping domestic abuse, except when it benefits her, by having an affair with someone else's husband!