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Cowardlybitch · 11/11/2024 11:36

For contact, we're lucky to be in a decent position financially. Not loaded but mortgage paid, decent income, we can enjoy not to worry about what we put in shopping basket. Usually a week abroad and a couple of breaks a year. What do I get for my 50th birthday off my husband? Bearing in mind we have been together for 20 years. 2 pairs of merino wool socks that are too big and in hideous colours. Same brand and colours as purchased at Christmas that I asked him not to buy again. In fact, I said no more socks unless they're Bridgedale ones. But apparently they'll shrink to fit. And two small boxes of chocolates from a shop I walk past 3 times a week to go to work and buy myself when I want them. And yes, the socks do in fact shrink - to a size that don't actually fit - as per the Christmas ones.

From friends I have a crap, self-published vegan book from some random off Facebook (full of beige coloured meals) and a collection of kitchen crap from Morrisons homeware section.

When asked what I want, I said to donate to my favourite charity. But no, apparently, I don't want that. I want a collection of wasteful rubbish to take to the charity shop. I don't think the thought counts when there has been no effort whatsoever. I make a real effort with these people and would never buy them something they had expressly asked me not to. Or rubbish from the supermarket. I live in a tiny house - what the fuck would I want with tacky ceramic crap that serves no useful purpose whatsoever? I'm a keen cook - if wanted a spoon rest, I'd already have one. Why the fuck would anyone want a spoon rest - just wipe your worktop? Why give me an "original" recipe book which contains a recipe for soffritto and meals so visually unappealing they look like cow-pats? The purchaser had clearly not bothered to look at it. Why feckin ask me what I want and then tell me I don't want it? Why the fuck do I bother? The two things that make me most cross in the world is money being wasted and talking to myself. I can't believe I'm still surprised at 50 to be reminded, yet again, how fuckin thoughtless people are and I may as well talk to the neighbour's cat as clearly people don't listen to me.

Now I'm stuck with repeat protestations of "I forgot" and "I don't know what to get you" and the poor, "sad me" face because the cruel, mean woman has finally erupted. I'm so incredibly angry. More angry with myself for thinking this would be any different to any of the other lousy, thoughtless birthdays.

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Runs4buns · 12/11/2024 19:41

With you on this one

i I think it’s really important to just even send a card - you never know what sort of day the person is having and to come home to find a little token that says “I’m thinking of you” just brightens your day. Doesn’t even need to be a big gesture, it’s the thought and the time put into that

it was my birthday at the weekend. My husband planned a nice meal etc but he has been really ill all week (for once not man flu) so that didn’t happen. I worked all weekend. I got 4 cards and a couple of presents.

But I was at work, told one person it was my birthday and they all made a fuss. My parents drove up to where I was to see me. Didn’t have to, but they did. Got home, my husband who really wasn’t so well, went out and got a little cake and some candles so I had something to blow out. It’s the little thoughtful things that mean the most isn’t it?

None of my extended family bothered. Even though every year, I make sure each and every one of them gets a Moonpig the day before their birthday.

Sorry to hear about your day - as many people have suggested here, take yourself out and enjoy your own company. I did, it was great. Didn’t have to share my Happy Birthday cream bun with anyone either!

Wingingit247 · 12/11/2024 19:53

Deadringer · 11/11/2024 12:00

Yeh people always come up with this 'hard to buy for' shite, but when your dp of 20 fucking years buys you hideous socks for Xmas and you particularly ask him not to buy them for you again, and he buys them for you again, that is a whole other ball game.

Yep, this really. He couldn’t be arsed and that’s the reality of it. And yes, of course you’d be upset that your partner of 20 years couldn’t be arsed to make a bit of an effort for you, especially on a landmark birthday. I’m sorry OP, Happy belated Birthday!

JWhipple · 12/11/2024 19:55

UserNameNotAvailable9 · 12/11/2024 19:29

Honestly though, if any of my friends reacted the way OP has…I’d be too scared to buy them anything never mind look forward to it. A big ‘look what I got you’ but with a panic room nearby I could run to just in case

A panic room makes an ideal gift for anyone!
Yeah, I didn't have quite the same reaction as OP TBF.

Maluki · 12/11/2024 20:02

Cowardlybitch · 11/11/2024 11:36

For contact, we're lucky to be in a decent position financially. Not loaded but mortgage paid, decent income, we can enjoy not to worry about what we put in shopping basket. Usually a week abroad and a couple of breaks a year. What do I get for my 50th birthday off my husband? Bearing in mind we have been together for 20 years. 2 pairs of merino wool socks that are too big and in hideous colours. Same brand and colours as purchased at Christmas that I asked him not to buy again. In fact, I said no more socks unless they're Bridgedale ones. But apparently they'll shrink to fit. And two small boxes of chocolates from a shop I walk past 3 times a week to go to work and buy myself when I want them. And yes, the socks do in fact shrink - to a size that don't actually fit - as per the Christmas ones.

From friends I have a crap, self-published vegan book from some random off Facebook (full of beige coloured meals) and a collection of kitchen crap from Morrisons homeware section.

When asked what I want, I said to donate to my favourite charity. But no, apparently, I don't want that. I want a collection of wasteful rubbish to take to the charity shop. I don't think the thought counts when there has been no effort whatsoever. I make a real effort with these people and would never buy them something they had expressly asked me not to. Or rubbish from the supermarket. I live in a tiny house - what the fuck would I want with tacky ceramic crap that serves no useful purpose whatsoever? I'm a keen cook - if wanted a spoon rest, I'd already have one. Why the fuck would anyone want a spoon rest - just wipe your worktop? Why give me an "original" recipe book which contains a recipe for soffritto and meals so visually unappealing they look like cow-pats? The purchaser had clearly not bothered to look at it. Why feckin ask me what I want and then tell me I don't want it? Why the fuck do I bother? The two things that make me most cross in the world is money being wasted and talking to myself. I can't believe I'm still surprised at 50 to be reminded, yet again, how fuckin thoughtless people are and I may as well talk to the neighbour's cat as clearly people don't listen to me.

Now I'm stuck with repeat protestations of "I forgot" and "I don't know what to get you" and the poor, "sad me" face because the cruel, mean woman has finally erupted. I'm so incredibly angry. More angry with myself for thinking this would be any different to any of the other lousy, thoughtless birthdays.

Have a rant if it helps, I get the not feeling heard, but in the end none of it matters much.

My 50th was in lockdown. My present was seeing my elderly mum again after 8 months.

DH's 50th was after lockdown when we could have 6 people visit; only me and 2 of the kids had COVID and no one could come. He spent his 50th nursing sick people and had a virtual meet up with his friends online for an hour. I can't remember what presents he got.

Maray1967 · 12/11/2024 20:03

Deadringer · 11/11/2024 12:00

Yeh people always come up with this 'hard to buy for' shite, but when your dp of 20 fucking years buys you hideous socks for Xmas and you particularly ask him not to buy them for you again, and he buys them for you again, that is a whole other ball game.

Oh yes. That’s about as bad as it gets in terms of gift giving.

OP, put the socks in a bag and put them in the salvstion army collection bins at Tesco. Drop the kitchen ceramics off at the nearest charity shop.

Go and get yourself something great.

And buy him your favourite chocolates for his birthday - and eat them.

UserNameNotAvailable9 · 12/11/2024 20:05

JWhipple · 12/11/2024 19:55

A panic room makes an ideal gift for anyone!
Yeah, I didn't have quite the same reaction as OP TBF.

It’s going on my Christmas list and I’m gonna flip a table if I don’t get it.

caringcarer · 12/11/2024 20:07

I'd be bloody furious with my DH if he gave me socks for my 50th.

JustMeAndTheFish · 12/11/2024 20:26

I’m with you too OP. My adult children always ask what I’d like for birthdays and Christmas; for my birthday a couple of weeks ago I asked for - and received- a new stick blender. Plus an IOU for an expensive dinner out. I have no use whatsoever for useless tat.

UnderZealous · 12/11/2024 21:28

@JustMeAndTheFish , I use my stick blender a lot. Cheap cheerful and useful.
The last time I suggested an expensive meal out, I got a 'We could go to Wagamama'. Obviously we were not compatible.

approachingfourzero · 12/11/2024 21:45

I'm sorry how your birthday went down. I am with you on this one. I hate presents just for the sake of it, or something to open which only ends up in the charity pile, so infact you end up with no present lol.
I'm sure others with have a lot to say & go on to mention that you're being ungrateful blah blah blah.

But the point is, you were asked what you wanted & that was ignored. (I've never understood asking someone what they want for their bday, they tell you and go and buy them something completely random ffs 🙄). As we get older we don't need stuff we can buy ourselves!

Think of something you'd like to have done and go head and make a plan to do it. Whether it be with a friend/hubby or on your own.

I've learnt with big birthdays, you have to take matters into your own hands to avoid serious disappointment.

CoffeeDogwalkTennis · 12/11/2024 22:25

Happy 50th OP and welcome to the Nifty Fifties Club!

I made a point on my 50th by setting up a just giving page for cancer research and doing a sky dive - “in lieu of presents here’s the link and don’t forget a birthday card “. And it worked. I raised over £1700 and got loads of cards.

for my 60th birthday next year, I’m going on safari and everyone else can kiss my a£se 😘❤️.

Do exactly what you want and f#ck everyone else.

anon666 · 12/11/2024 23:28

I learnt my lesson regards presents on my 40th.

I'm lucky enough to have a wonderful husband who put lots of effort in amd asked what I wanted. My own family chipped in and got thoughtful, if slightly random, pressies.

Literally everyone else I invited to my very expensively catered party got me a mug. It was hilarious opening one mug after another. No idea why I seem like a mug person?

I get that I had a mix, but life's too short to get so pissed off about these things. People genuinely have no idea what to get. They mean no harm..

Passenger42 · 13/11/2024 00:14

Happy birthday, I felt sort of envious to the fact that you get gifts. I have to buy myself a card for my child and disabled elderly mother to write in and if I am lucky
some money is put inside from my elderly Mum. If you don’t like your gifts return them or sell on vinted and donate the money to charity.

Ladysmirnoff1 · 13/11/2024 16:23

I agree . Regift the socks back to him. If he says anything say we'll you must have liked them to buy them for me . Then say especially as you knew I didn't want them in the first place.

Cowardlybitch · 14/11/2024 21:13

Hello everyone who replied especially the ones who gave me the benefit of the doubt to think that a potty-mouthed, psychopathic ranter was a complete monster on a day-to-day basis. Thank you for the birthday wishes. Apologies for not updating sooner but I did indeed channel my Darwin (as per the excellent suggestion of someone on here) and took myself off to a hotel for a few days. And yes, I did take my husband as once I calmed-down I realised that what he did was not the problem. The problem was not in fact him but my Uni friends. I was apoplectic with rage when I typed what I did and it seems to have been quite triggering for some people who I wholeheartedly admit have had much worse birthdays than I did. I'm afraid I did not present a full picture of the situation. However it seems some posters have filled in the blanks themselves. Particularly @MarvellousMariella1. I know at least one of my four Uni friends used to be on here when her children were small but you can't be one of them being that you made more stretches than a pilates teacher. I do hope you don't work in law enforcement, you need to go off the facts as presented, not do your own creative writing.
Though to be fair, everyone else can hand my arse to me on a plate for typing out what must look like a drip feed. I was not tethered by an HRT patch when I typed but no excuse. The title of my first post should have been "My 4 Uni friends don't actually like me and my ordinarily great husband did a thoughtless thing". Not quite as catchy or as easy to write though.
I always knew I was going to get socks and was in fact looking forward to it. I don't know how many more crumbs I could have laid. Short of laying runway lights to the nearest Cotwolds shop, I don't know what else I could do. But when I opened the parcel and saw the same gift as Christmas, it really was the last straw. This wasn't the case at all though: she got a nice posh pair of socks for Christmas and then TOLD HIM she didn't like them. Actually, I did thank him at Christmas and was only fed up when they went from being oversized to shrunk. In February / March after they were ruined, I said something along the lines of "Those expensive socks are a right rip-off. It is like being throttled by the ankle. I'll shove them in the fabric recycle. Stick to Bridgedales - they're cheaper and they last longer". I was more angry about him ignoring me and the quotes I made in the original post were all to him. "I forgot" was about the shrinking. "I didn't know what to buy" (my favourite socks?) Every time I threw out an old pair that were shabby I stuck in a hint. And the sad face comments referred to him. I did thank him on my birthday morning (Monday) and it was only a couple of hours later when he caught me upset after my shower (and minus Evorel patch) that I lost my temper. He did get an onslaught of shouting, tears and snot. Thankfully the attached neighbour is on holiday or he'd be wondering whether a foul-mouthed sailor had moved in. It was wrong of me so I'll take the accusation of needing to grow up on the chin. And he is genuinely sorry. Annoyingly, it would have been less effort to go into the City than to the sock of wonder shop.

Regarding the presents from friends. I was brought up not to ask for presents however if someone asked me what I want, I was able to ask for something modest. My friends from Uni don't have that approach. Which is fine. Two e-mail with a list approx a month before their dates, one has a standing request for Champagne (must not be supermarket labelled) and the fourth works near where I do, so we usually go out a couple of weeks before her birthday after work and she chooses something. I don't mind as at least I don't have to wrap it.
I'm not grabby but I do like presents My favourite ever present was some paper napkins with cats dressed as Victorian ladies. Really weird. A colleague brought me them back from Japan for no reason other than they thought I'd like them. So yes, I guess I am spoilt as I'm incredibly lucky for that to happen. I felt so special that they'd thought about me. Maybe it was their other half's cast-off present that they lost the plot over but I like the warm and fuzzy version. Likewise, to my friend who isn't so well-off who remembered I wanted to read a particular author. She bought it from the charity shop. She confessed where it was from. Don't know if it was for brownie points or because she felt embarrassed but it was so kind to remember what I'd said and the wrapping!!! She follows someone on Insta and wraps stuff like that scene in Love Actually. I hope everyone on here who hasn't had much effort ends up getting a gift wrapped so beautifully. Again, I admit, I am overindulged compared to many.
When any of the Uni four have asked me what I want, I have told them. It doesn't work. For example, when I asked for the following things, this is what I got:
Tulips. I got a Peace Lily from the supermarket. My response: "Thank you, that's lovely. I'll try not to kill it". How my friend could have failed to see the rather large specimen in my house I really don't know.
A pen refill for my nice pen (£7.50)- . The shop to get it from is two streets away from where she works. I got a pack of fluorescent disposable pens. My response: "I'll keep them on the fridge, they'll cheer up the shopping list. Thank you".
Nice stationery. I got a multi-pack of children's notepads from the Aldi special aisle. My response: "Those tigers are very cute. Thanks, I'll use them for the shopping list".
The best ever (which did make me laugh at the time) had to be when I was asked what I wanted and I said a small rucksack, large enough for a purse and water. I got a black UPVC, shiny bag with chains for straps and a miriad of zips. It made me laugh as I'd seen a re-run of League of Gentlemen and it reminded me of the gimp mask episode. And no, I didn't laugh in front of them and thanked them and said it was very practical with all the zips.
I know that gifts shouldn't be a transactional relationship but none of the gifts my Uni friends have ever been under £25. The cheapest one this year was some black Chanel nail polish. So with Christmas, birthday and their respective two children (who used to have a list but now just ask for vouchers) we're looking at £200 per friend. And yes I'm lucky enough to afford it. And yes, I could refuse but that isn't what has upset me. I finally get it, for the last 20 years, it is like in that film when women realise "He's just not into you". Only the friendship version. I had 10 decent years when they appeared to give a crap about me but for 20, I've been in denial.
The person who asked whether they were in fact my friends nailed it. I'm a friend when I'm useful. A friend for looking after their houses when they go abroad, need the bins taking in, looking after the dog so they don't have kennel fees, need free cake for their kids parties ("home-made cakes taste so much nicer"), baking done for the school or church fair. Babysitting when the kids were younger. I know it is pathetic and I have zero self-esteem but I just thought that they didn't treat me like they treat each other because I wasn't good enough. If I kept on making an effort, I'd make the cut. And no, before someone psychoanalyses me, I wasn't like this at school. Nor am I like this at work.
And don't anyone even think of suggesting they can't afford to make an effort in terms of money or time. Suffice to say, of the three that work, their household income is at least double ours. 3 work part-time and one inherited so much (post-divorce, thankfully) she retired at 45. She has a flat in London. And I don't mean a high-rise in a rough area. And no, before we get any more Scaravelli stretches, don't begrudge them their inheritance or their detached houses or their kids their private education.
I said, well in advance, "We don't really have the same taste in stuff so this year, please would you give a donation to the animal sanctuary please? They are desperate and I love following their news on Insta". They pulled a face but said they would. The three that live nearby came round on Sunday. I am assuming that at the spoon rest came from the supermarket but it is not fair to suggest all the gifts were. I saw her digging through her shopping bag when she was parked on my drive and started to wrap it up. The other two got impatient, eventually saying "Leave it, it doesn't matter". Those door camera things are useful. I had asked for donations but I wouldn't have dreamt on checking if they'd done it. I quickly found out they hadn't bothered as "charity things are so impersonal, don't you think?" If they'd have lied and said they'd done it online, I'd still be their doormat.
I opened them all immediately as they're always strangely proud of their offerings. The spoon rest, plus a mug with a llama on ("cause you went on that llama picnic thing". It was an alpaca picnic but close enough. And one of those garlic dishes with grooves on that all the garlic gets stuck in (own foolish previous purchase). And yes, I did say thank you but I'm not much of an actress so I'm sure I did have cat's bum face on.
I'd got the cocktail glasses out ready for their arrival but I didn't bother getting out the ingredients. Likewise with the cake (chocolate live oil cake and macadamia and chocolate cookies) that were cooling on the side didn't get offered. They got coffee (instant) and one got her llama mug back which had only had a cursory rinse. They chatted and when they ran out of stories, they saw the vegan amazon book on the side. One of them picked it up and said, "Oh yeah, this is X''s godmother's book isn't it?" X being a friend of my faux vegan "friend". She flicked through the pages and said "Vegan friend said they all looked ghastly on the Facebook page but surely not worse than this?". She pointed to a picture and laughed and made a face like she was being sick. It did look like the contents of the vacuum caddy mixed with water.
It was obvious something was wrong as they said how I wasn't my usual - "hostess with the mostest" self and how they'd have to self-serve at this rate. They eventually asked what was wrong. Normally I'm one of those people who know what to say when they person has disappeared down the road but for the first time ever, I knew exactly what to say and when. "What could possibly be wrong when my 4 oldest friends have told me exactly how they feel about me with their thoughtful gifts". They all exchanged glances and looked like they'd been caught out. I rinsed out my cup and one said "Maybe we'd best leave". I agreed. I admit I did get a small amount of satisfaction when the driver had to come back to retrieve the chiller shopping from my fridge.
I don't think I'll hear from them again. I know they won't care as obviously they don't class me as a real friend. And to be fair, I'm no social butterfly, no ready wit and have no social standing so they won't miss me. I can say they will miss the dinner parties and free cakes though. And on the off chance that Suzanne is on here reading this, no I will not be making Andrew a three tier copy of this https://slattery.co.uk/cake/skier-extras/ for his 60th in April . And don't think I'll be pitching in for your son's volunteering holiday abroad either. I don't care if this is outing, you deserve it.

I don't have any expectations of presents. I don't think presents are beneath me, even if I don't like them. Oh and I don't go hiking - so another stretch I'm afraid. And I didn't say it was "charity shop junk". I said it was "a collection of wasteful rubbish to take to the charity shop". Though one man's trash and all that. They might make a few pounds from it.
I'm sorry I'm not as saintly as some of you claim to be and maybe I should still be grateful for this stuff but I'm not. Though to anyone I've upset with my whine, I am sorry. Esp @travailtotravel. I hope you were in a temporary blue mood when you wrote your post otherwise that seems an incredibly sad way to live. And also @Passenger42 - yours made me a bit teary. You sound absolutely lovely to be grateful for the small things. I wish I could send you a card.
So there is it. I'm ready for the pile on but the new version of me no longer cares whether people like me or not. I tried my hardest to be likeable and all they smelled was desperation and weakness and played on it.

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SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 14/11/2024 21:23

What a miserable collection of stuff that was. People can't even take note that you appreciate donations for your favourite charity, which is less work for them than buying a load of rubbish from Morrisons. I'm really sorry. It's not what you deserve, these folk are being incredibly thoughtless.
Happy birthday anyway.

Ohnobackagain · 14/11/2024 21:36

Good for you @Cowardlybitch and thanks for (probably unintentionally) making me chuckle

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 14/11/2024 21:36

OP, I didn't see your last message (21:13) until I'd posted mine, we must have been typing at the same time. Bloody hell! Your original rant makes sense in the light of that visit and gift-giving from your former Uni friends. They were much worse than just careless.
I wonder if they apologised and admitted how mean they had been, whether you would still want to be friends with them. If they don't do some pretty serious grovelling, it sounds like that's it. End of an era.
May happier times in other contexts be on their way.

Cowardlybitch · 14/11/2024 21:40

Thanks @SoNiceToComeHomeTo but I don't think I can forgive myself for being so stupid for so long. I thought I didn't have that many friends that I could afford to lose 4. Jeez, how desperate was I? Like some kind of desperation scent must've been coming off me. "Please treat me like dirt. I'll come back with more gifts, time, cake..."

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SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 14/11/2024 21:44

Cowardlybitch · 14/11/2024 21:40

Thanks @SoNiceToComeHomeTo but I don't think I can forgive myself for being so stupid for so long. I thought I didn't have that many friends that I could afford to lose 4. Jeez, how desperate was I? Like some kind of desperation scent must've been coming off me. "Please treat me like dirt. I'll come back with more gifts, time, cake..."

Well, they were your proper friends for years, and it's not always obvious when things gradually change with people you see often.
It's not stupid to give people lovely gifts, you sound like a generous and creative person who I'm sure other people in your life appreciate. Maybe now you've let these four go, there will be more friends to come. Hope so.

Cowardlybitch · 14/11/2024 21:52

I also tried the - why don't we do activities out instead of gifts route instead. Which worked in the Spring and Summer (when it is their birthdays) but no one wants to go out when it is so dark early in November.. And I still didn't get it... Forrest Gump cottoned on quicker than I did.

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Cowardlybitch · 14/11/2024 21:56

@Birdscratch I would be delighted to send you mine before it goes to the charity shop. It already has bubble wrap on. It is just one more thing to wash though...

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MarvellousMariella1 · 14/11/2024 22:37

If it helps, I like you very much. I'm sorry you didn't get the birthday you wanted.

MeatPotatos · 14/11/2024 22:42

Would like me to forward to you a short clip of a 25 year old North Korean woman who has been homeless almost all her life, is living out in the woods by herself, all family died, she is malnourished and dirty and her eyes fills with terror when the undercover journalist asks her when was the last time she ate and what she ate and she mumbles "I don't eat ever' because if she is caught foraging anything at all she will be closed as a thieve and endure horrible torture.

Let me know

MarvellousMariella1 · 14/11/2024 22:56

I will say, and I mean this gently so please don't take offence, that sometimes friendships wax and wane. I have a lot going on in my life and have neglected good friends whom I've known for years. I don't hate them. There is no malice involved. It's just that things are difficult and I've pulled back. I doubt your friends who have cared about you for years hate you. Please take care.

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