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Grandparents treating dc and step dc differently

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Gottoshare · 09/11/2024 12:15

And my ‘rebalancing’ of things has been discovered 😬

We have 2 dc and dh has 2 dc from a previous relationship. Everyone gets on well, I adore his dc they are lovely kids.

Every Christmas my parents give money for my 2 dc, bags of sweets and chocolate selection boxes and a big Christmas Eve box. 2 of everything- plus big bags of sweets . There have been a few heated conversations (not when dc are there) and I’ve made it clear ALL dc are there 23/24 dec each year and it’s unfair to treat them differently. It’s been going on for 5 years. Dh dc are teenagers now and last year my parents were saying ‘well they are older why are you still going on about this they don’t believe etc etc’ . SC are so lovely to their little brothers and really keep up the magic of Xmas and they really make it amazing for them. My parents are so off about it.

Anyway what I’ve been doing is splitting the money between 4 not 2 and adding to the Xmas eve box so that it’s for 4 children not 2. So it’s been fine and the label says from granny and grandpa and it’s just for everyone . Well we saw them last weekend and one of SC was exclaiming how much they love the Xmas eve box and talking about all the nice things in it each year and I could see my parents faces. They were furious. They called me afterwards and said never to do it again or they will stop so I said ‘fine then - stop. You wouldn’t treat them fairly so I did’ I think they honestly expected them to sit and watch and miss out on the box ???

Today they’ve said they want my dc dropped to them Xmas eve morning they’ll do the Xmas eve box / activities / film / hot choc with them . They have GrAndpaRents RigHts now dont you know 🤬🤬🤬🤬

AIBU if I just tell them to get lost. It’s really annoyed me

OP posts:
Lickthips · 10/11/2024 20:26

YWBU to redistribute the gifts.
YANBU to want to see your sc treated kindly.
YANBU to tell them to stick their gifts.
YANBU to refuse to send your children to see their grandparents on command.

Your parents are BU in every way.

Ahwig · 10/11/2024 20:28

I had an 11 year old son when I got together with my husband. My son's father is very present in his life so my son didn't need another dad
. My husband was something else, another adult to talk to when he didn't want to tell mum or dad ( even though my husband would tell me) .
My husband never told him off, that wasn't his job, but on one occasion my son was playing his music drum and base quite loud and my husband had a bad headache. He politely asked my son if he wouldn't mind turning down the volume. My son laughed as he actually switched it off saying, my dad would have yanked the plug out by now.
When we got married, my son was 14. He was happy to be included in the ceremony and my in laws were absolutely brilliant from the time they met my son. My fil gave a speech saying how lucky they were to get another grandson. My in laws actually had 4 biological grandchildren and 3 step grandchildren and they boasted to everyone about how lucky they were having 7 grandchildren. To me this is how grandparents should be. My in laws set the bar beautifully high.

Facescar77 · 10/11/2024 20:30

I just want to add that you sound like a wonderful person OP and I would have done the same. My mum would prob do the same as your parents buty in-laws are incredibly generous and would never leave anyone out. Have an amazing Christmas and I hope all the children enjoy their Christmas eve box this year!

Lickthips · 10/11/2024 20:33

InternationalVelveteen · 10/11/2024 19:40

And that is exactly how children in a family should be treated. "Step," "half," whatever. I know someone who is helping to raise his wife's grandson. He has no biological connection to the child, but he is Granddad and absolutely adores the little boy. Blended families can be successful, but that requires empathy, inclusion, and an open heart. Alas, many people (like the OP's parents) lack these qualities.

It's a nice idea but it's more complex than that. My kids have had 3 sets of 'step cousins' introduced to them courtesy of my brother. The first lot lasted 2 years, the second just over a year and we are currently on set 3 and nobody is making the mistake of getting invested. They are close to their actual cousins who are permanently in their lives.

BettyBardMacDonald · 10/11/2024 20:34

Wooky073 · 10/11/2024 18:41

Thats a difficult situation. I can understand totally why you did what you did.
I can also understand the grandparents viewpoint, which is quite old fashioned but also fairly normal for that generation. I think it probably is time for their xmas eve box to stop as it would cause problems in your blended family unit. I wouldnt agree to just their grandkids going to just their grandparents if this isnt what works for your family. A new solution is needed. Maybe you take over the xmas eve box tradition then you can put into it whatever you want. You could also make it a secret santa xmas eve box. You can invite your grandparents to add gifts to it which are just to their grandkids if you like, and any other family members as appropriate, and as before you top up the others as you were doing as needed, so everyone gets a gift and they are all from santa :) Santa saves the day. It could save a lot of tension. This means your parents are only getting gifts for their grandkids. If your parents wont accept that solution then it would seem that they want to hurt the other kids which is another situation entirely.

Their generation? They aren't 120 years old, probably 60 more like it. Age is no excuse for their nastiness.

Wantitalltogoaway · 10/11/2024 20:35

Er, they’re not their grandchildren.

They are absolutely nothing to do with them.

YABU

BlitheSpirits · 10/11/2024 20:35

so suppose yiu were successful in forcing a relationship between your parents and your dh's kids.What happens if and when you and dh split? The GPs will probably never see them again.If by some chance they did maintain a relationship, woul you still be happy to share half of your dc's odh Would you ill you still be happy to share 50% of you kids christmas present with them? Do you expect your GPs just to switch on and off feelings for these unrelated kids?

BalletCat · 10/11/2024 20:37

HoHoHoliday · 10/11/2024 19:58

"I know some people might think perhaps I should have been upfront and honest with SC but I couldn’t do that to them they need to feel accepted I wanted to protect them from yet more rejection in their life as they’ve had a tough time and they need stability and to feel valued."

But you could have been upfront and honest with them from the beginning without them feeling rejected. All it would have taken was a very simple "grandparents have made a Christmas box for their grandchildren, me and your dad have made one for you" - as simple as that. Everyone would have had something, and everyone would have known who it was from.
The feeling of rejection has been set up by you! In not wanting them to feel rejected you created a false relationship with grandparents who aren't their grandparents and who don't feel that connection with them, which would inevitably lead to rejection. You must have known the truth would come out eventually, either by one of the kids mentioning it in front of the grandparents or by one of the grandparents mentioning it in front of the kids? I'm astonished that the older kids have never thanked your parents for the gifts and brought this up before!
And now to perpetuate the step-children not being rejected by the relationship with the grandparents that you created, you are preventing your younger children, the actual grandchildren, from having a loving connection with the grandparents.
A very simple solution here is to let you parents treat their grandchildren and enjoy them, while you and your partner treat the teenage children - who are more than old enough to understand that small children get made a fuss of by grandparents especially at Christmas.

This!!! I can't believe people are telling gher to cut the grandparents off. That is only punishing the children out of spite.

Wantitalltogoaway · 10/11/2024 20:42

BalletCat · 10/11/2024 20:37

This!!! I can't believe people are telling gher to cut the grandparents off. That is only punishing the children out of spite.

Edited

Absolutely agree with all of this.

OP has made this into a situation when it didn’t need to be.

Suzuki76 · 10/11/2024 20:43

I think if it was just birthday and Christmas gifts, that's one thing, but this is a very specific situation where they're providing a Christmas eve tradition to make sure their grandkids have a nice evening, where everyone gathers round to open them... But as far as they're concerned the older 2 can whistle, and go watch telly in the other room.

I mean ultimately they don't approve of your family, do they, and it's so shitty to take it out on some nice kids. They are your children's half siblings as well so will all be at family events until they die.

Danielle9891 · 10/11/2024 20:43

I can't imagine myself or my family leaving out a child like they do but some adults are like that, they just look out for what they consider their own. I'd offer your parents the money for them to buy all the children the same. I.e you pay half of the cost of the 4 Xmas eve boxes and they do or once you get the stuff from your parents buy similar for your SC and say you went halves with your parents.

ClimbEveryLadder · 10/11/2024 20:43

Some posters seem to be missing why the OP is upset. The problem with the GPs present not being for all children is because the Christmas Eve box is a combination of all of the following

  • it’s a joint present rather than 2 individual presents
  • it’s to be used at a specific time when your SC are also there
  • the type of present is something the SC would also enjoy despite being very different ages
  • the present is to be opened the day before Christmas Day when none of the children have the distraction of other presents
  • the SC like doing things with their younger siblings

It’s completely different to individually wrapped personal presents.

You’d have to have a heart of stone to hear a teen talk about how much they love the Christmas Eve box every year and be angry that their daughter had added similar items for the SC and let the SC think the box was from the GPs for all the children to enjoy.

I’d have been mortified that I hadn’t thought about the teens, grateful my daughter had, and delighted that my grandchildren had such lovely older siblings that they would spend Christmas eve doing activities with the little ones.

BalletCat · 10/11/2024 20:44

Wantitalltogoaway · 10/11/2024 20:42

Absolutely agree with all of this.

OP has made this into a situation when it didn’t need to be.

Yep.

And it's interesting that when everyone way baying for the grandparents blood the OP was posting regularly and agreeing how awful they were but when people started pointing out she had no right to redistribute their gifts and money she disappeared.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 10/11/2024 20:50

Does the DSC's mum do anything for your kids?

I can see why your parents are a bit miffed.
It's their money to spend as they please.
If you feel it's unfair, then do an identikit yourself for the SC.

How have they not realised you were doing this, did the kids never send thank you cards?

Also, not sure I'd be happy as the SC to know it was all a lie.
They're old enough to understand the different family dynamics.
They have a mum, a dad and a lovely step mum, they don't need fake Christmas box presents.

QueenMaize · 10/11/2024 20:51

Gottoshare · 09/11/2024 12:52

Yes my parents have said so many times ‘blood is thicker than water’ 🙄

You should teach them the true meaning of that saying!!

ClimbEveryLadder · 10/11/2024 20:52

I wouldn’t necessarily expect the grand parents to give money to the SC as well but that’s a very easy thing to discretely manage

bittertwisted · 10/11/2024 20:53

Is everyone missing that these children are their grandchildren's biological siblings? Their own grandchildren adore their siblings
Absolutely disgusting, selfish, cruel people all of you that agree with the grandparents
I don't think I've ever been so shocked by a post

LameBorzoi · 10/11/2024 20:56

Yikes. I'm normally in the "you can't force a step - relationship" camp, but this is just mean. The grandparents are deliberately excluding the step grand kids.

HisNibs · 10/11/2024 20:56

BalletCat · 10/11/2024 20:37

This!!! I can't believe people are telling gher to cut the grandparents off. That is only punishing the children out of spite.

Edited

Punishing the children my arse! If anything, she's protecting ALL of them by preventing her sorry excuses for parents from splitting them apart. Those children all have the same father in case you didn't notice. As for your accusation about OP disappearing... she has her opinion on how she sees the gift situation, you have yours. What use does it serve for her to keep coming back and arguing with you? Read OPs posts again regarding her parents and then read between the lines. This incident is not in isolation. Her parents are not nice people.

Tvp123 · 10/11/2024 20:56

Cunts of the highest order. I was talking to my step mum about this recently. She treats everyone the same and we don't understand people who don't. If I was going to be at Xmas and a child who I didn't even know was going to be there I'd be buying them a present too. This kind of behaviour upsets children.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 10/11/2024 21:00

They are absolutely nothing to do with them.

They're the siblings of their grandchildren, and their own daughter loves them and is in a family with them.

I mean sure they can, and are, drawing a line in the sand as you describe but how the fuck is that going to be anything but divisive, hurtful and destructive?

another1bitestheduck · 10/11/2024 21:03

thepariscrimefiles · 10/11/2024 18:44

OP hasn't stolen the money. It was given for a family outing and that is what it was spent on. The step children are family.

I wonder whether OP's parents would have kicked up such a fuss if OP had invited a couple of her children's friends on the outing. They seem to have an almost visceral dislike of OP's step-children and actively look for opportunities to demonstrate the difference in treatment of the two sets of children.

it wasn't given for a family outing!
OP's ACTUAL words "They give £100 each year to get the dc something / go out somewhere"
OP very clearly knew this money was given to JUST the 2 'blood' DC.

Is that nice or fair of them? No! But what OP did was dishonest, regardless of her intentions.

Everyone is polishing their haloes by saying how lovely the OP is to 'redistribute' the money but real integrity would be saying "I consider ALL of them my children, either you give all of them money or none of them"

Or the real 'kind' thing to do would be to say "Thank you for the money, we spent it on taking A&B to Winter Wonderland. Did C&D come? Yes of course, we wouldn't leave them behind, but DH and I paid for them."

Not "thanks for the money yes the tickets cost £50 each" (when they actually cost £25). Which is essentially what OP did. It's easy to be kind and generous when you're spending other people's money!

BalletCat · 10/11/2024 21:05

HisNibs · 10/11/2024 20:56

Punishing the children my arse! If anything, she's protecting ALL of them by preventing her sorry excuses for parents from splitting them apart. Those children all have the same father in case you didn't notice. As for your accusation about OP disappearing... she has her opinion on how she sees the gift situation, you have yours. What use does it serve for her to keep coming back and arguing with you? Read OPs posts again regarding her parents and then read between the lines. This incident is not in isolation. Her parents are not nice people.

I don't see what all the children having the same father has to do with it when the grandparents are the mothers parents.

I don't care if she argues with me or not. I'm far from the only one disagreeing with her, clearly it doesn't serve her for many people to disagree with her which is why she hasn't been back.

Withholding money and gifts from her children from their grandparents, and all the people telling her to go no contact and cut them off is only hurting her children because she doesn't like her parents behaviour. That most certainly is spite because it's the children that suffer from her making a point, not her.

BalletCat · 10/11/2024 21:06

another1bitestheduck · 10/11/2024 21:03

it wasn't given for a family outing!
OP's ACTUAL words "They give £100 each year to get the dc something / go out somewhere"
OP very clearly knew this money was given to JUST the 2 'blood' DC.

Is that nice or fair of them? No! But what OP did was dishonest, regardless of her intentions.

Everyone is polishing their haloes by saying how lovely the OP is to 'redistribute' the money but real integrity would be saying "I consider ALL of them my children, either you give all of them money or none of them"

Or the real 'kind' thing to do would be to say "Thank you for the money, we spent it on taking A&B to Winter Wonderland. Did C&D come? Yes of course, we wouldn't leave them behind, but DH and I paid for them."

Not "thanks for the money yes the tickets cost £50 each" (when they actually cost £25). Which is essentially what OP did. It's easy to be kind and generous when you're spending other people's money!

Exactly!! Polishing their halos indeed.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 10/11/2024 21:10

ClimbEveryLadder · 10/11/2024 20:43

Some posters seem to be missing why the OP is upset. The problem with the GPs present not being for all children is because the Christmas Eve box is a combination of all of the following

  • it’s a joint present rather than 2 individual presents
  • it’s to be used at a specific time when your SC are also there
  • the type of present is something the SC would also enjoy despite being very different ages
  • the present is to be opened the day before Christmas Day when none of the children have the distraction of other presents
  • the SC like doing things with their younger siblings

It’s completely different to individually wrapped personal presents.

You’d have to have a heart of stone to hear a teen talk about how much they love the Christmas Eve box every year and be angry that their daughter had added similar items for the SC and let the SC think the box was from the GPs for all the children to enjoy.

I’d have been mortified that I hadn’t thought about the teens, grateful my daughter had, and delighted that my grandchildren had such lovely older siblings that they would spend Christmas eve doing activities with the little ones.

Very manageable to open gifts at different times when SC are not there.
Or ask for GPs to deposit into kids accounts.

Even better to be honest to the kids and explain the family dynamics.

What happens with other relations, uncles and aunties?
The kids can't all have the same amount of presents all the time.

Its a good lesson to learn early on instead of OP trying to control her parent's giving. They'd find out soon enough anyway and OP would be seen as having lied to them.

No one can tell someone how to spend their money. It would be lovely if they bought extra, but they don't want to, as it's their money, they make the choice.

What happens if OP was to be divorced again, or if OP's siblings each have x number of step children. If Grandparents feel this is what they can afford, then let them be.

OP has known what they're like and should have handled it better instead of lying.

Would OP take half the inheritance from her kids to give if in the situation arose, don't think so.

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