Another XL Bully Attack

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Vicious XL Bully attack leaves five-year-old boy with life-changing injuries and needing facial reconstruction surgery | Daily Mail Online

Little Teddy needed 100 stitches in his face but was lucky to escape with his life.

Is it unreasonable now to ask the Government to give a warning in the media, that children are to be kept away from these dogs? Not to enter a house or garden where they're known to be? Even if told that the dog is safe, which they are not.
This little chap was visiting a home with his family when it struck.

I rehomed an 11 week old puppy from England when the ban was announced, I have always advocated for xl bullies , the pup was beautiful, loving , amazing with my children and other dogs....and one day out of the blue she attacked my 8 year old dog infront of my children, the xl bully was only 8 months old and turned into a wild animal. She attacked her ragging her throat, her ears , legs everything. My old dog was screaming for her life and I just couldn't get her off :( this happened infront of my baby and 3 other young children.
Never again will I trust an American bully of any kind . My old dog was screaming for her life . I called police everything and no one would help me. Eventually after 40 minutes I got the xl bully pup outside and rushed my dog to the vets . The vet said only her fur saved her , I had the puppy pts. And I was absolutely fukin broken at doing that. But if I had to bury my child it would have ended me.

When they attack they attack till the death ...I think that's the problem here.

Why did you advocate for them @Carol4155 ? Why did you need it to happen to you personally before you'd believe the endless reports and the statitstical data?

You were very lucky this happened before she was older and stronger and that it wasn't your baby or young children who were attacked. I just cannot understand what you were thinking in the first place to have any kind of puppy around a baby and very young children let alone one from a notoriously vicious breed that you knew was being banned for this very reason.

It would be helpful if you could explain what made you think this was a good idea. Genuinely, I do not understand. Did you think all of the data and news reports were invented?

Because I have an American bulldog who is 8 , and American bully and American bulldogs both descent from the old English bulldog ...my 8 year old dog is the most loving affectionate dog with my kids , has been since I had them, I've always believed it's the owners who can determine how a dog behaves , obviously in this situation I was proved wrong , I know many xl bullies with families that are amazing with child4en and other pets , but this incident has changed my whole perception and I believe now that it is genetic and they do have some sort of fighting instinct that they kill whenever there is conflict.

Croydon central is a shit pit with a serious drug and crime problem

Indeed. However, there are even worse ones, and the data in that map shows how closely they map onto areas where there are a high prevalence of these vicious dogs so the "stereotypes" of who is keeping them don't seem to be far off the mark.

They should be muzzled and on a lead in public. If not, you can report to police or dog warden.

@Mumofnarnia takes one to know one. You're so funny. Great entertainment for us all. Not to mention more exclamation marks than an MLM seller.

We have a ginormous Newfypoo, but she never remotely poses any threat to anybody (apart from being licked too death). It seems to be a cult status thing to have an XL bully, why?

You’re hilarious and extremely nasty. Good job I’m not that bothered about strangers on the internet!
That poster kept on replying to me because i commented on their post and said I would never let my child near a staffy, claiming they’re not comparable so what’s your issue? Oh that’s right, you thought you’d jump on my post too and call me ‘unhinged’ and ‘rude’ all because I said I won’t allow ANY bully near my child! Please inform me why I’m starting to sound ‘unhinged’! The only person who seems a little unhinged and rude is you! I did not ask you to rudely comment on my post! Any further nastiness and rudeness from you will be reported! Have a good day!

They are dangerous. They should be called.

Sorry that happened to you but the “no one would help me” comment. Who should have helped you? Who should put themselves in danger and at extra cost on the public purse because you chose to house a dangerous dog?

The authorities have said there are dangerous breeds. You thought differently and you knew best yet expect an intervention and put others at risk as well as yourself.

This shows people can’t make objective decisions sometimes.

?? Xl bullies were not banned in my country when this happened ...

I think people are often lulled into a false sense of security, especially if they bought one as a little squishy puppy, a biddable dog is fairly easy to handle regardless of their size, what people forget is how hard it would be to handle should it stop being biddable and actually want to kill you or someone else.
They also fail to realise how vulnerable the human body is to such an attack, we are walking weak spots, children being especially vulnerable, all of which will result in a very quick death should they be bitten in these weak spots.

You said the ban was announced? So the ban wasn’t yet in place but knew there was going to be a ban. Or is it a different puppy you’re talking about in your first sentence? Can’t quite work out if you mean you rehomed a different puppy. Or if you took the puppy from someone else to live with you.

@QueenTweenandKingTeen
The first link you posted shows a woman with a small child walking what looks to be a staffie and another staffie attacking it. The attacking dog showed no interest in the child. And because of the size of the attacking dog was able to be brought under control, imagine if it was 10 times bigger ! Still awful for that poor women, her dog and child, that someone who probably knew their dog was dog aggressive let it wander around outside, idiot !
A few of the links mention staffie crosses, which is what I was trying to put across in one of my posts. A lot of 'staffies' are not your normal small staffie but a mix of other dogs, with very little care given to the temperament of either sire or dam.
Personally I wouldn't get any terrier type with small children in the house, because they don't generally suffer fools gladly, whilst being fantastically loyal to a select few, and are renowned to be other dog unfriendly and who wants to deal with that when you also have small children to contend with?
I also don't get the issue some people have with muzzling a dog so that it can enjoy walks without causing any issue that may result in it being PTS ? Horses wear muzzles to stop them eating too much grass if they are prone to laminitis, doesn't stop them enjoying being in the field and do horse stuff !

There's was no mention of a ban in Scotland when I rehomed the puppy , there are thousands of xl bullies in family homes ..which makes you think it's the owners that cause these attacks on people or they are mistreating the dogs ...I brought her up with nothing but love and for 8 months she was amazing , there was no thought in my head at all that she would do what she done

I brought her up with nothing but love and for 8 months she was amazing , there was no thought in my head at all that she would do what she done

And that is the issue isn't it @Carol4155 , love will never cancel out the genetic default. Training won't either regardless of how experienced you are or think you are.

I took in a lovely orange and black striped kitten. It was wonderful for a couple of months - but my, did it grow!

It had to be PTS after it ate my next door neighbour.

I had no idea that tigers might be difficult to look after, or that they’re banned pets.

These are Dog FIGHTING dogs.
Bred from Pit bulls. With the express design to fight other dogs.

But with American Bully added to make them bigger and stronger.

It is in their nature, just as it is in a Border collie to be intelligent and to herd, and to work in close partnership with its owner herding sheep or cattle.

These Pitbull X Dogs lived with their owner for ''years'' then suddenly attacked her-plus attacked neighbours.

The anthropomorphism of animals is the issue, describing the animals as "loving" "soppy" "daft"

These are human traits and dogs are not human- people need education. Nor do they particularly like being danced with, hugged, or dressed in outfits.

Thank you for answering @Carol4155 , I appreciate you doing so. It is interesting to hear your explanation of why you thought it would be different in your case.

There's was no mention of a ban in Scotland when I rehomed the puppy , there are thousands of xl bullies in family homes ..which makes you think it's the owners that cause these attacks on people or they are mistreating the dogs ...I brought her up with nothing but love and for 8 months she was amazing , there was no thought in my head at all that she would do what she done

This I still do not understand, though. If you know they have been banned in other countries surely you'd do some research into the data. Endless reports of them being "so gentle and affectionate" and then flipping, just like happened to you. I still don't really understand why you'd have discarded all of that data, all of those reports and concluded they must all have been terrible owners (like there aren't terrible owners of other breeds too, but yet not this prevalence of reports of that happening with other types of dog)? Especially with a baby and young children around. Very lucky that in your case your family didn't end up with a tragedy.

It would also be helpful @Carol4155 if people like you (dog lovers, experienced with similar breeds but having witnessed this sudden flipping and desire to kill first hand, even when a dog was well-cared for) could speak out to other people who are still keeping these dogs, use your voice jn the media campaigns about it.

People who are keeping them because they are scummy people who want a vicious dog are beyond help and wilk have to have them forcibly removed. But if as you say there are still numerous families who just do not believe the truth that there is something inherently genetically wrong with these dogs and that they are never, ever safe to keep, then they may be more inclined to listen to someone like you and how you could easily have ended up with dead children as a result. Maybe more people will be inclined then to get these awful dogs pts and you may save some lives by speaking up.

The anthropomorphism of animals is the issue, describing the animals as "loving" "soppy" "daft"
These are human traits and dogs are not human- people need education.

Some people cannot ever be educated. Thick is as thick does.

I videoed the attack after several attempts to save my other dog , I had to video so the breeder would know why I had a puppy pts. She told me after watching the video that she hopes I can live with myself 👀

You took a video of it? How could you do that when trying to get your children and baby to safety and calling police and panicking and trying to save your other dog? How could you possibl have been thinking or caring about the breeder's opinion at that time, or even known the breeder personally if you rehomed the puppy from someone else as you claimed previously?

I really do not understand. But if this is real then you should very much be doing everything possible to publicise how dangerous these dogs are and to campaign for them all to be put to sleep.

Dogs where kicked in the kitchen and door shut then got my children to safety, tried numerous times to get in kitchen to separate and I couldn't. Everytime I tried to open kitchen door xl puppy would attack her throat again which is why I videos for 5 seconds , police where already called as soon as the dogs where in kitchen ...dunno why ur questioning me , u weren't there ..u didn't have 4 children to protect , and try and protect ur other dog , when this happens ur adrenaline is chaotic , u panick , u dont know what to do