Another XL Bully Attack

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Vicious XL Bully attack leaves five-year-old boy with life-changing injuries and needing facial reconstruction surgery | Daily Mail Online

Little Teddy needed 100 stitches in his face but was lucky to escape with his life.

Is it unreasonable now to ask the Government to give a warning in the media, that children are to be kept away from these dogs? Not to enter a house or garden where they're known to be? Even if told that the dog is safe, which they are not.
This little chap was visiting a home with his family when it struck.

If this were cows or something they'd be culled. Time to end this.

Ticking timebomb really

I totally agree.

A few years ago, my brother rehomed a Staffie from Blue Cross. She'd had all the checks, vet care, behavioural assessments etc and was OK to be with children and other dogs. He doesn't have children but I do. I popped round as it was Christmas. He'd had this dog a couple of weeks and she was typically bouncy but no aggression shown. Then this one night she just flipped. She picked up my gran's dog in her jaws, and was flipping it around like a ragdoll. Her jaw was totally locked on and she was AGGRESSIVE. My brother stupidly put himself in there and did get injured but miraculously she let the dog go and it wasn't dead. I think she had played dead as a survival instinct and that encouraged the staffie to let her go.

Now my brother isn't any kind of thug or anything. He doesn't have any need for a big powerful dog. He's an animal lover and fell for the sob story about this dog being in the kennels months and needing a home. He's an animal lover. The next day, he returned the dog to Blue Cross and she was put to sleep. They tried to convince him to keep her and get training! And this is one of the issues! I've seen RSPCA calling for XLs not to be culled because it should be "deed not breed," and totally dismissing the size, power, breeding, temperament, and often the intent of these animals.

I have never seen an animal turn so rapidly. Nothing had changed. She'd been living with this dog for the previous few weeks and was used to the people there. There was no warning. It all happened in a second. I maintain that ALL dogs can show aggression, but their intent is not always a simple kill instinct and the power and size of animals also has to be taken into account. Yes any dog bite will injure, but when was the last time a child was mauled to death by a sausage dog?

@nocompromisenecessary it's behind a pay wall. Where are A few top areas please

Top area is Croydon

S5 postcode is second worse.

I discovered there are nearly 90 XL registered bully's in my postcode, bit I'm not buying that that is the total number, no way. There must be a hell of a lot of unregistered owners still, because they're everywhere. Literally 6 I can think of off the top of my head in a very short walk to the shops. That's the ones whose owners I see regularly. There's more I'm unfamiliar with.

@DysonSphere thank you

If the police won't act all we can do is email mp

How do we go about creating a petition?

Postcode district
CR0
Number of XL Bully applications approved
219
Rank
1
Per 100k residents
129

Postcode district
S5
Number of XL Bully applications approved
189
Rank
2
Per 100k residents
298

Postcode district
WA7
Number of XL Bully applications approved
182
Rank
3
Per 100k residents
288

Postcode district
DE24
Number of XL Bully applications approved
180
Rank
4
Per 100k residents
300

Postcode district
WA8
Number of XL Bully applications approved
174
Rank
5
Per 100k residents
272

Postcode district
L36
Number of XL Bully applications approved
173
Rank
6
Per 100k residents
411

Postcode district
L4
Number of XL Bully applications approved
171
Rank
7
Per 100k residents
421

Postcode district
B37
Number of XL Bully applications approved
165
Rank
=8
Per 100k residents
438

Postcode district
LE3
Number of XL Bully applications approved
165
Rank
=8
Per 100k residents
150

Postcode district
WA9
Number of XL Bully applications approved
156
Rank
10
Per 100k residents
296

Bit more

If they won't eliminated these beasts, maybe we should press to be allowed guns. If for no other reason than to defend ourselves.

After all, it's the owner not the gun.

@Dymaxion sorry wrong tag and I can't delete it once tagged. @DysonSphere

Thank you so much for this.

Wa is Warrington.

I haven't paid, I just clicked no thanks and the article was released. Maybe try that?

Leicester, Derby, Sheffield, Runcorn, Widnes, St Helens, Birmingham, Croydon, and Liverpool seem to be pretty bad with hundreds of dogs clustered across a few areas in each place.

However, there seem to be dozens of dogs in over half the postcodes in England. Where there are between 0-9 dogs no figure is published - but there must be a few in every area an there are 55,000 registered overall.

There will always be anecdotal evidence of different dogs flipping. However the key difference with the XL Bully is the ridiculously small gene pool. You would almost think horrific inbreeding was dangerous.

Top area is Croydon

Looking at the data per 100k residents (postcode areas are different sizes) it doesn't seem to be the worst (though still bad!). It has the highest total number but some areas are much, much worse for prevalence per head of population.

Unsurprisingly, it seems that the areas with higher numbers of these abominations per capita correlate strongly to areas notorious for higher levels of crime and therefore with a larger proportion of the population being quite intellectually challenged and "interesting" moral values. They are also largely deprived areas which means many of these animals are likely being kept in inappropiate conditions and cramped accommodation which will of course exacerbate their (un)natural tendency to be vicious.

The Government (current and last) are utterly spineless for not insisting all of them are pts. It is a public health hazard and in my opinion the politicians who implemented the pathetic non-ban are directly responsible for the ongoing attacks, maulings and deaths that would have been prevented if they had taken appropriate action.

Illness and brain tumours can cause erratic and violent behaviour, I believe. And they sometimes don't manifest themselves until a violent outburst.

Sorry, but the bottom line is that your having a dog doesn't improve my life one bit. So I resent having to make adjustments beyond trying to be a nice citizen and tolerating others proclivities.

There are none (less than 10 anyway) in my postcode (country villages), my parents postcode (country villages) and my work postcode (small country town). My DP’s postcode shows 19 (small town with a bit of a rough reputation).

I knew there wouldn’t be many round here as I’ve only ever seen one before. To be fair it was pleasant enough but the owners let it off the lead at an event (long before the ban) whilst she was in season with the owner of the event’s male dog followed it round extremely interested in it but was too small to actually accomplish his plan. To be fair to the XL she did put him with him relentlessly perusing her in good nature. But it shows the sort of owners of these dogs that they bought their in season dog to an event then let her off the lead when they knew there was an entire male that lived there.

Yes, because rural/ sparsely populated areas (that are more affluent as well) will have less than 10 in total therefore not be represented in the graphic.

Some areas have orders or magnitude more people living in them than others, hence some won't register in the data at all, and for those that do the per capita prevalence is the relevant comparator (not total number of franken-dogs).

The bottom line is these people were given a chance to have the animals pts for free and didn't. They have no social conscience/ own them to be deliberately threaten

Sorry!

...deliberately threatening or they lack the intelligence to understand basic data on how dangerous they are therefore can't be trusted to make competent risk assessments and decisions due to their lack of intelligence and therefore the decision must be taken out of their hands.

If the current restrictions were effective and observed by oh-so-loud about how responsible they are owners then attacks would not have continued. Yet they are.

Therefore, it is obvious that the restrictions imposed aren't sufficiently robust and are not being observed or enforced so aren't effective. The evidence is clear and Government needs to implement an actual ban, which means these animals are prohibited from being owned and any reported will be pts immediately. It's a public safety issue and it's disgusting that politicians are allowing people (including children) to continue to be mauled and killed.

The only way anything will be done about it is if sufficient numbers of people contact their MPs about it directly so that they see the strength of feeling on the subject.

@SerendipityJane good point re guns

Christ. He's lucky it got him on the face because if it had been a few inches lower and his neck he'd be dead.

Comes to something when you need to say a kid was lucky to be bit on the face. All XL Bully's need to be seized and culled.

Be vigilant, stay safe.

Croydon central is a shit pit with a serious drug and crime problem. They used to have XL Bully fests in the local parks. Not surprised at all that it tops the list for antisocial, murderous dogs.

Dogs don't kill people. Owners do.

“Guns don’t kill people. Rappers do.”

Any other lyrics to share?