To be absolutely disgusted at my date?

[lullabellee]

He drove and when we got back to mine and parked up we had a kiss. I had a top on with a zip down the middle and he went to pull it down and I said no, this happened twice. I then got out the car and he quickly apologised that “he gets a bit carried away”.

Surely my first no should have been enough?

Yup. It should.

What a turn off.

Massive ick.

Quite right.

Cringe. A definite No

Block!

Not a good start, throw him back

YANBU. He should have asked before trying the first time!

If that's his behaviour on a first date I dread to think how he might behave further down the line. Creep

well he has told you he gets a bit carried away

when someone tells you who they are listen!!!

block him op

First date?
If so... you are being completely unreasonable to be in his car.

And show him where you live.

Don’t ever see him again. And block him.

Victim blaming much!! She should be able to trust that he won’t act without consent wherever they are.

And yes of course, no means no - the first time.

Grim. Throw it back.

First date with my DH I drove. Was he unreasonable to be in my car? No means no, no matter where you are.

Hope there won't be a second date.

No, not victim blaming - safety advice.

Of course, no means no, first time, second time.... permanently, basic. Anything that isn't yes, is no. End of.

Are you serious?

What a stupid, victim-blaming comment.

Yes, I think so @HermoinePotter . Glad it worked out for you both.

Sadly very typical of men on the dating scene these days. Extremely presumptuous.

I am serious @bluecampbell yes. Its called wisdom / personal safety / self protection. What would anyone with daughters advise them?

I'm sorry your date was a predatory arsehole @lullabellee . Not my intention to blame you for his shit behaviour, how disappointing and upsetting. Unfortunately a large proportion of men in my experience aren't trustworthy. Better luck next time.

He shouldn't have even tried the first time, if you wanted your zip lowered you're capable of doing it yourself or asking him to, trying the second time proves he's a pushy prick who needs to left on his own. I hope your not giving him another chance.
I'd hate to be dating today (I'm 53 and married), there were some idiots out there years ago and I met a few but mostly they were polite and pretty genuine. I'm still good friends with a few ex's which is a good sign I think.

She should be able to.
Fact is that she can’t.

He sounds creepy. And he wants to grope you in the car, so you can add tacky onto creepy. You are right to not want him near you again!