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To be so disappointed in people - Trump voters especially

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notsorighteousthesedays · 06/11/2024 06:43

I feel absolutely stunned that despite all that has been said and done Trump is likely to get the chance to make the world burn a little faster.

I am afraid for a future so full of anger and hate.

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ememem84 · 06/11/2024 07:57

I wanted Kamala to win - and if I could have voted would have voted for her. In my opinion she’s a good role model for women.

but I think I knew trump would win.

ChaosHol1 · 06/11/2024 07:57

I don't know why we in the UK think we know better than the actual country to decide who they want to run them.

Nobodywantsthis · 06/11/2024 07:58

I'm speechless. Genuinely. There are no words. 🤦

Lentilweaver · 06/11/2024 07:58

Lol at anti-vaxxer RFK Jr being health secretary.

HPFA · 06/11/2024 07:58

Sdpbody · 06/11/2024 07:43

We would have voted Trump in our household.

We also voted conservative here.

It has becoming increasingly apparent that you are demonised for having any different view other than the left is best.

People are allowed to vote in their best interests.

I doubt the USA will much like the world they have created.

Laptoppie · 06/11/2024 07:58

It's a wild statement to make that everyone who voted Trump is stupid. Sure, as with any election anywhere in the world some people vote for a candidate for questionable reasons, but people invariably vote for what matters to them the most even if it means compromising on other areas.

The cost of living is atrocious in some parts of the US, and there are other factors that affect a lot of people that were dismissed by the Democrats. I suspect understandably a lot of people's desire to be able to home and feed their families comes above most other issues and policies, and the ideological posturing just wasn't a big of a deal as the Democrats thought it was.

babasaclover · 06/11/2024 07:59

Coolasfeck · 06/11/2024 07:03

Well it looks like many Americans are keen to give their country to Elon Musk and the tech bros. Trump will not live out the term and Vance (Peter Theil) will take over. Regulations bonfire will begin.

Any Trump voter who’s not a straight, white, Christian man deserves what’s coming.

The people of Ukraine and countries surrounding Russia must also know it will be a few months before Trump hands Ukraine over to Putin.

The only positive thing is that this may mean the end to America’s malign influence on the rest of the world as we all attempt to block out the crazy.

It is not his to handover 🤷‍♀️

stonkytonk11 · 06/11/2024 07:59

I don't think it is about left is best and looking down on people voting otherwise it's about human decency at a very basic level. How many of the Trump voters would be happy with him if he was a teacher educating their children? Yet they're good with him being in charge of such a powerful nation...

stanleypops66 · 06/11/2024 07:59

I'm not at all surprised, though I am surprised he'll get in with such a majority.

Listening to his victory speech was just cringe. My 6 year old niece has a better repertoire of vocabulary, so that says it all.

Let's hope he does something good for the people of Gaza.

Prescottdanni123 · 06/11/2024 07:59

@orangegato

If not being Trump means that Putin doesn't get to start wars with any country within reach before moving onto bigger targets, that women can have safe abortions instead of trying to do it themselves with coat hangers, that black people/homosexual people/women can live in relative safety then I will take them.

Willyoujustbequiet · 06/11/2024 07:59

Sdpbody · 06/11/2024 07:43

We would have voted Trump in our household.

We also voted conservative here.

It has becoming increasingly apparent that you are demonised for having any different view other than the left is best.

People are allowed to vote in their best interests.

How is voting for a rapist in a woman's best interest?

Xtraincome · 06/11/2024 08:00

Backwoods57 · 06/11/2024 07:02

Brit in the US:

Over the past 10 years the liberal's have shut down friendly political debate. If you are not a Democrat you are automatically shot down as being a Nazi supporter. This obviously has upset a majority. However they have just kept quiet and nodded along to maintain friendships, saving their true views for the privacy of the voting booth.

You cannot win thoughts and minds by shouting them down and demonizing them.

Similar to UK. You vote anything other than Labour or Lib Dem, you're a racist POS. The demonising started at Brexit and carried on.

BUT, people in the UK don't realise how lucky they have it regarding politics IMO. It's messy here for sure, but I don't envy the US and it's leaders as states can kinda do what they want in reality.

SquirrelSoShiny · 06/11/2024 08:00

DancingNotDrowning · 06/11/2024 07:46

It’s awful for the US and it’s awful for the world but the democrats played an appalling game.

Hanging on to Biden
Fielding Harris
A campaign run as if she was not the incumbent VP
A failure to listen to the electorate

Ultimately a desire for authenticity won. People are fed up of listening to polished meaningless drivel.

This too. I think this is why Kemi got the Tory leadership. People are absolutely sick to the back teeth of being compelled to lie.

No - a man cannot be a woman. No - all cultures are NOT equally valid. People want to be able to talk truthfully without being called a raving Nazi nut job.

What do you get when people are told they're Nazis for having the most moderate views? You get protest votes that lead towards actual right wing fascism.

Livelovebehappy · 06/11/2024 08:00

ChaosHol1 · 06/11/2024 07:57

I don't know why we in the UK think we know better than the actual country to decide who they want to run them.

I don’t think the UK as a whole think that. But MN definitely do. MN is not representative of the majority of people in real life fortunately, otherwise things like Brexit would have never happened. MN are in an echo chamber so obviously were pretty confident Harris would win. And are now shocked that she hasn’t….

HPFA · 06/11/2024 08:00

SquirrelSoShiny · 06/11/2024 07:50

This. Labour need to watch and learn or they will learn the hard way in five years.

They already have. It's one of Starmers strengths.

The Left hate him for it. By by

Noisylass · 06/11/2024 08:00

Noname99 · 06/11/2024 07:56

Exactly
I think people are deluded if they don’t realise that this is happening all over the world and there isn’t a real risk that it could happen here. Labour barely won - low turn out and lowest proportion of the vote - they were just lucky / tactically clever to get the ‘right’ votes to get the ‘majority’ they did but it was a much narrower ‘victory’ and the world is swinging right.

Sanctimonious left wing eye rollers who look down and pour vitriol on the ‘working class’ or equivalent unless they fit an EDI group. They have no idea what it’s like to live in an area where there are no jobs, send your child to a school that are overwhelmed with social issues and live somewhere opportunities are scarce. And where entire neighborhoods have become areas where an immigrant population is the majority and often have an entirely different culture and language and have no interest in integrating with the British culture. And if people actually living there raise any concerns in any way, they are screamed down as racist thickos by people who live no where near the areas effected. The reaction to riots was appalling ….. people howling for 12 year olds to be imprisoned for throwing stones ffs and mass jailing of people for ‘crimes’ that would usually barely get a mention.
This will happen here too. Farage is coming and it will be the left and their utter refusal to listen and superior arrogance that will cause it.

I am a northerner. Poor I live in an area you describe but guess what I am not stupid i don't blame the ills of my society on immigration i educate myself i realise it's the same old shit that right wing politicians have said for centuries the othering blaming the little people. The reason why uts crap in the uk is we have had neo liberalism which fuelled by the conservatives not giving a fucking fuck about the poor areas not wanting to level up as promised here we bloody are. Plus global shift of jobs etc . Life is more nuanced but unfortunately people read tye mail or turn on other stuff that is biased or give short soundbites

Babadookinthewardrobe · 06/11/2024 08:00

Backwoods57 · 06/11/2024 07:02

Brit in the US:

Over the past 10 years the liberal's have shut down friendly political debate. If you are not a Democrat you are automatically shot down as being a Nazi supporter. This obviously has upset a majority. However they have just kept quiet and nodded along to maintain friendships, saving their true views for the privacy of the voting booth.

You cannot win thoughts and minds by shouting them down and demonizing them.

Spot on.

GreenSedan · 06/11/2024 08:01

Trump is an awful human being. Imagine being married to him? And I think that misogyny played a significant part in this result.

But, i also think that Harris was a terrible candidate and the Democrats' focus and defense on identity politics is a massive vote loser. I'm not suprised to wake up to a Trump victory this morning.

MargotwithaT · 06/11/2024 08:01

Apparently Starmer and Trump have had lunch and it went well.

JudgeJ · 06/11/2024 08:02

Coolasfeck · 06/11/2024 07:15

What is ‘the left’ and what do they believe? Then we can decide is Harris is ‘left’?

Does America have a 'left'? I was told by an American that they have two parties of the 'right' by different degrees when compared with the terms in Europe, even the Democrats dislike the term Socialist!

Wisenotboring · 06/11/2024 08:02

It's hard to believe, but then so is the utter uselessness of the democratic approach. Refusing to put forth reasonable candidates and shutting down sensible and nuanced debate on right to life and gender ideology issues. This is the result

thepariscrimefiles · 06/11/2024 08:02

Thatsenoughcoffee · 06/11/2024 07:27

Better that than the party that castrates and trans children!

Give me one example of a trans child being castrated by the Democrats.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 06/11/2024 08:03

Livelovebehappy · 06/11/2024 08:00

I don’t think the UK as a whole think that. But MN definitely do. MN is not representative of the majority of people in real life fortunately, otherwise things like Brexit would have never happened. MN are in an echo chamber so obviously were pretty confident Harris would win. And are now shocked that she hasn’t….

Yes, and Brexit's been such a stunning success, hasn't it.

Babadookinthewardrobe · 06/11/2024 08:03

silentwallflower · 06/11/2024 07:56

Middle America voted for a black man twice....

😂 Indeed, how quickly people forget!

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 06/11/2024 08:03

I knew it. Been down the road of false hope too many times. I'm over being disappointed about it. Let's see what happens. It's my 50th birthday today too, a Harris win would have lifted my spirits but not to be. A guess a shopping spree might help😎

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