To be so disappointed in people - Trump voters especially

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I feel absolutely stunned that despite all that has been said and done Trump is likely to get the chance to make the world burn a little faster.

I am afraid for a future so full of anger and hate.

This. Labour need to watch and learn or they will learn the hard way in five years.

It took many decades but Russia finally beat America.

Farage won’t get in, as we’ll get to observe the bin-fire in the States over the next 5 years.

No functioning govt agencies (as Musk takes an hammer to them) the odd measles epidemic (and less affordable healthcare), a crashed economy - with a few very wealthy people in the middle of it.

The best we can hope for is, seeing that shit-show, we sort out our relationship with the EU

Like fuck he will. He and Netanyahu are like two peas in a pod. Trump supports the ethnic cleansing of the West Bank. He has said that Biden's actions have been 'tying Netanyhu's hands behind his back'.

The Palestinians are more fucked than they were yesterday.

i completely agree

Of course people are allowed to vote whichever way they choose; however, I disagree that only people on the left are demonising those with a different opinion. Perhaps terms like "snowflake", "remoaner", "champagne socialist" and the dreaded "communist" never escaped your lips but they are very much in circulation and are weaponised to stifle any attempt at discourse.

Don't think its that simplistic , Obama won by bigger margins of Trump, twice in a row.

Harris was hoisted in the last few months because Biden wasn't fit to run, he should have never stood for re-election and there should have been a proper candidacy to face Trump.

I agree the Palestinians are fucked either way. But it was ever thus under US foreign policy.

It was a sweeping generalisation and intended to be insulting. No need for it but, everyone has an opinion and absolutely must give it.

They would have done better by keeping Biden, like it or not but middle America will never endorse a woman or a black candidate. People's impression of the US are often from TV where we see the East and West coast mainly, the 'fly over' country is very different and much bigger in terms of number of states.

We need to stop making excuses for ourselves with "Trump will hand Ukraine over to Putin"

He can only do that if we in the free world - which now doesn't include the USA - let it happen.

Europe has four times the population of Russia and a massively bigger economy. That's not even counting Canada, Australia et al. We need to step up now.

Trump was always going to win. Anybody who thought otherwise really doesn't have an understanding of politics.

Blame the voters all you like.
But believe Biden, Kamala and creepy VP candidate deserve a whole heap on blame.

Oh Hell yeah!

I'm not a trump supporter, but isn't it best that we stay out of the Ukraine conflict now ?

Oh absolutely. And a little while later, it's better to stay out of the Baltic conflict. Then the Polish conflict..and Eastern European conflict after that. And..

I hear you and wanna acknowledge i feel the same. This isn't just about a difference of opinion which it used to be this is about a man that on record has stated he wants to shoot Liz Chesney and kill the enemies of the people like tye media and Democrats so there we go

Or Woke , that catch all insult for anything politically left of Boris Johnson.

Any woman who supports Trump needs psychiatric help.

Blame the Democrats. They persevered with a man clearly ill, for an excessive length of time, and then wheeled out someone who didn’t have nearly enough time for the American population to get to know her. If I was a democrat I’d be hugely pissed at their incompetence.

What is creepy about Harris?

Do you think voting for a criminal is a mere difference of opinion?

Exactly
I think people are deluded if they don’t realise that this is happening all over the world and there isn’t a real risk that it could happen here. Labour barely won - low turn out and lowest proportion of the vote - they were just lucky / tactically clever to get the ‘right’ votes to get the ‘majority’ they did but it was a much narrower ‘victory’ and the world is swinging right.

Sanctimonious left wing eye rollers who look down and pour vitriol on the ‘working class’ or equivalent unless they fit an EDI group. They have no idea what it’s like to live in an area where there are no jobs, send your child to a school that are overwhelmed with social issues and live somewhere opportunities are scarce. And where entire neighborhoods have become areas where an immigrant population is the majority and often have an entirely different culture and language and have no interest in integrating with the British culture. And if people actually living there raise any concerns in any way, they are screamed down as racist thickos by people who live no where near the areas effected. The reaction to riots was appalling ….. people howling for 12 year olds to be imprisoned for throwing stones ffs and mass jailing of people for ‘crimes’ that would usually barely get a mention.
This will happen here too. Farage is coming and it will be the left and their utter refusal to listen and superior arrogance that will cause it.

When voting for political parties becomes like supporting a football team, we all lose.

This is what I said to my husband just now. Nearly every country swung away from the post-pandemic govt.

Middle America voted for a black man twice....

I don't like the man, but I'm not surprised. It's really simple. Groceries and inflation costs are a massive issue, not giving aid to areas affected by hurricanes, and chucking money at Ukraine and Israel instead. The electorate feel economic pain, that's why you lose elections. It doesn't matter what the person is like, people care about how they are personally affected. It's not just a trump victory it's a landslide, all the key states.
I actually think trump is good for the U.K. and Europe. His mum is Scottish, he met with Labour dispute Lammy insulting him, but Harris wouldn't and in her biographies, she constantly references negative British empire and slavery issues. Equally forcing European countries to pay 2.5% of GDP for defence is a NATO requirement, they should be doing it anyway, it will strengthen defence against Russia.
The issue for the Uk will be our governments inability to see past the person and look at the bigger picture, much like many comments on here.