To be so disappointed in people - Trump voters especially

[notsorighteousthesedays]

I feel absolutely stunned that despite all that has been said and done Trump is likely to get the chance to make the world burn a little faster.

I am afraid for a future so full of anger and hate.

It's also important to remember that your view might not be the right one either.

@MargotwithaT

Exactly that

Exactly! Absolutely agree with this.

The tantrums on here after Brexit were something to behold. I’m a lefty remainer but also from a working-class town so understood that people had their reasons to vote leave beyond being stupid. There was a poster who said she and her husband were so angry their colleagues were frightened to speak to them. The anti working-class rhetoric was disgraceful and made me think differently about this site ever since.

The world will be very interesting from 2025. Ukraine will lose to Russia, I Wonder if NATO will respond when Putin invades the Baltic states?
(I hope it’s an IF, not a WHEN, but this will embolden Putin and North Korea).

And it is not just the next four years. Trump promised if he won no-one will need bother to vote again in the US. That is quite the promise.

I think America want perceived strong man leaders who sound decisive, absolute and say they have a solid plan to fix stuff.

It's the Captain America vibe which is what has helped other Presidents win too - Obama, Clinton, Reagan.

I don't see any woman being elected soon, maybe not in my lifetime. Clinton was a better candidate and even she couldn't quite do it. Looking at the results I don't know if any Dem man would have beaten him but it was a mistake to go with Harris. Obama was savvy enough to know this.

People complaining that Harris' best argument was that she isn't Trump when Trump's best argument in the eyes of his voters was that he isn't a black woman.

It will be interesting to see if people who vote against Kemi Badenoch at the next UK General Election will also be dismissed as racist morons.

Was this before or after Lammy called Trump a neo-Nazi sociopath?

Do you really need to ask?

Ukraine is fucked, Gaza is fucked, women are fucked, immigrants (even the ones that voted for him) are fucked.

He's promised 'mass deportations' on day 1. I wonder how that will go?

What a load of rubbish. She lost because she is as thick as a plank. Can’t answer a single question when interviewed (even when she knew what the question would be beforehand). Her stock answer to “what would you do about ………” was Donald Trump did this….. yes but Donald Trump did that….. She never told us, not once, what SHE would do, about anything.

The passage of time, what has been blah blah Why would anyone vote for her?

You've just unwittingly illustrated how the mentality of the left allows people like Trump and Farage to gain traction.

You just carry on insulting your opponents when they raise the concerns voters are facing. That works really well.🙄

Harris was very clear about gaza when asked 'Israel have the right to defend themselves' time and time again.

@turbonerd

This is what worries me. If Putin attacks a NATO country, will NATO wade in without the support of US/the risk of US siding with Russia?

When did ‘the left’ shut down debate? Last time I checked Fox News had a big voice and ‘X’(Twitter) where most of the mainstream press seem to get their stores from is owned by Musk.

This whole ‘the left has shut down debate’ is bollocks and you know it. X etc has poisoned social discourse, Facebook is a sewer, Daily Mail has comments from around the world.

I still feel very angry bout Brexit. Fucked my life plans royally.

Knot in my stomach as soon as I saw it. It's terrifying people can vote for a candidate who is so undemocratic and immoral. Sometimes I doubt democracy, people are stupid. But what's the alternative? There isn't one.

It is awful news...

I can't say I am surprised though.

But I also do think that Trump appeals to more than just conservative white men.

I saw a documentary on the run to the election where many latinos were interviewed and they supported Trump, mainly because as legal immigrants/second generation they did not want more people coming into the country and also because they prioritised the economy and though life was more affordable under Trump.

I must say that after hearing that I was concerned that Harris was facing a huge battle.

Here we go....the go to accusation on MN when things don't go their way....

I agree with this and also thought Trump would win.

Oh come on! I've seen Democrats being likened to communists too. Have you watched Fox news at all?

I agree with the view that it's a lot to do with racism and misogynism. But also the fact that politics has swung very strongly towards people's feelings and is very influenced by SM sound bites rather than analysis and evidence. Same as Brexit, people believed what was on the side of a bus rather than the evidence from a slew of economists.

Same with Trump. Biden has in fact produced more jobs and Trump has no detailed policies at all but people fall for the rhetoric.

I don’t think it is right to sexually assault women and take away their bodily autonomy when pregnant. In my experience, all decent people agree. If you don’t agree, then I have nothing to say to you.

Broadly agree with this except … Brexit .. and if we had different voting system we would have seen more Reform representation. So we can’t be too smug about our modest tendencies esp given the client right wing newspaper media.

Other people may think differently to you and have different plans. I can understand disappointment but anger is Verruca Salt territory.