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"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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HeadacheEarthquake · 04/11/2024 15:40

www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 04/11/2024 18:58

I think there's a big element of defensiveness. People refuse to accept they've put their family at risk by bringing a breed known for attacking into their home. They have to deny there's a risk otherwise they're admitting they brought the risk into theur home.

Flowerydresses · 04/11/2024 18:58

DeeCeeCherry · 04/11/2024 15:57

"One of the lines of inquiry relates to the behaviour of the dog to help explain, as far as possible, why it attacked the girl.
"All indications so far suggest it was out of character, with the girl and dog having a close, loving relationship."

I cannot get over the stupidity of this statement from North Yorkshire police. Do they not think before they speak?Analysing a dog FFS, like too many dog owners they think they're the dog-whisperer. I like dogs but I don't assume I can read their minds and guarantee their actions. Dog was a killer, that's it.

The parents need to be sent to prison. Their DD died a painful death due to them being hard-headed idiots.

I think in a way it’s quite a good statement . Anyone thinking their XLBully is sweet and loving and has a great relationship with their kids might think twice reading that ie even the ones that are ( supposedly) softies can turn. I wouldn’t want to walk past one on my own or with a child, god knows how people have them in their house!

CoffeeLover90 · 04/11/2024 18:59

This ban hasn't been taken seriously. They're still out and about, no muzzle and as PPs have said, dragging their owners along. RSPCA, police, council, even the MP have been informed. Nothing is done.
If it's true this one has been introduced to the family 'recently' how? The ban was supposed to stop this.
I love dogs, I've had them all my life until my last one passed a few years ago. Most were terriers, a couple of labs, a whippet and I didn't trust any of them. I loved them all immensely. But I knew they could turn at any time, I respected that. I wouldn't have a dog I couldn't physically control if needed.

We're expected to spend hundreds, even thousands, to learn how to drive. Many more thousands spent on insurance, fines for wrong doing, ceased licence for serious or repeated offences.
But any idiot can get a dog. Any dog.
And a family loses a loved one.
It's just tragic.

Temporaryname158 · 04/11/2024 19:00

I’m going to make a controversial statement here but no I don’t feel sorry for the parents.

I feel incredibly sorry for the poor child who had a hideous death, I feel sorry for her wider family, school friends and other who her life touched. However her parents knowingly bought an animal into the home of a type that they KNOW has killed children and adults, that they KNOW has been a massive news/debate topic and which they know needed to be registered and muzzled in public. Yet knowing they had a child they bought it into the home. I’m sick of parents crocodile tears afterwards and people feeling sorry for them. this happened directly due to them and there is nobody else to blame but themselves

UpUpUpU · 04/11/2024 19:00

I saw one of these awful dogs up close (and reported it as it was in a house with a newborn and small children). It was massive and terrifying to look at, even though it was caged. Why anyone would want one in their house and around children is absolutely beyond me

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 04/11/2024 19:00

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 18:53

Recently, a 12 yr old Welsh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 girl had an unmuzzled XL Bully attack her as she got out of the family car.

Her father managed to get it off her and her mother said had he not, their daughter could have been killed

Here is what ONE bite did to her arm.

They want to share the image to warn people. {Covered as it's distressing}

Edited

Jesus effing Christ!!
I was NOT prepared to see that!

Justcallmebebes · 04/11/2024 19:01

Why are people "so sad for the family"? Is this the same family that brought an adult banned, dangerous dog into the home? "The family" should be charged with manslaughter as far as I am concerned. Not like they weren't on notice

BelgianBiscuit · 04/11/2024 19:02

@oakleaffy what a gorgeous hound.

I don't think many people could hold one back if it lunges with intent. And yes, it is usually a weedy guy who doesn't stand a chance.

There is the worry that they'll get a bite sleeve on Amazon and become their own decoy, so we offer basic obedience sessions. They usually pose next to our banners for a TicTok post then are never seen again after a few weeks.

Oldseagull · 04/11/2024 19:03

I’m going to make a controversial statement here but no I don’t feel sorry for the parents.

I'd go one further and have them charged with manslaughter.

Knowingly having such a dangerous animal around your child, yet another pair of idiots that 'saved' a dog by buying it off gumtree.

There will be a fluffy go fund me set up soon
That's exactly the kind of shameless half wits these pathetic excuse for parents will be, and everyone knows it.

Travellingheavily · 04/11/2024 19:03

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 04/11/2024 19:00

Jesus effing Christ!!
I was NOT prepared to see that!

I agree that is one god awful injury. Shocking

We should perhaps send it to our MP's

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 19:03

Grammarnut · 04/11/2024 18:49

To put this in perspective more people are killed or maimed by horses than dogs in the UK.

From falls most often.

Equestrians can wear protective helmets and other body protection - horses may occasionally nip or kick, but they are not dangerous in the way an XL Bully is.

To say ''But horses...'' is ludicrous.

Horses are not generally putting members of the public at risk by biting, unless their name happens to be Ormonde of the Household Cavalry- and Ormonde only nips if people get into his personal space.

Dragger · 04/11/2024 19:05

Definitely need involuntary collection of all these beasts and a cull.

BirthdayRainbow · 04/11/2024 19:06

Grammarnut · 04/11/2024 18:49

To put this in perspective more people are killed or maimed by horses than dogs in the UK.

Stupid comment.

Cattery · 04/11/2024 19:09

These dogs are wankers owned by wankers

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 04/11/2024 19:09

Talk about having to learn the hard way that these dogs are dangerously unpredictable. That poor girl. How many more people will have to learn the hard way before these dogs are made illegal, full stop?

Cattery · 04/11/2024 19:10

Oldseagull · 04/11/2024 19:03

I’m going to make a controversial statement here but no I don’t feel sorry for the parents.

I'd go one further and have them charged with manslaughter.

Knowingly having such a dangerous animal around your child, yet another pair of idiots that 'saved' a dog by buying it off gumtree.

There will be a fluffy go fund me set up soon
That's exactly the kind of shameless half wits these pathetic excuse for parents will be, and everyone knows it.

A Go Fund Me would make my blood boil

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 04/11/2024 19:11

HeadacheEarthquake · 04/11/2024 15:40

www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

Put every single one of them down if it means no child (or adult) will be killed by one again. It’s just not worth the risk. There is no need to have this breed of dog.

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 04/11/2024 19:12

powotsits · 04/11/2024 15:52

There is an idiot near us who walks one off lead without a muzzle round the little residential streets near us – always full of children out playing

I hope you’ve reported them? That must actually be really scary 😦

ZoeCM · 04/11/2024 19:13

Grammarnut · 04/11/2024 18:49

To put this in perspective more people are killed or maimed by horses than dogs in the UK.

This reminds me of American gun owners who think "More people are killed by cars than by guns, but no one wants to ban cars" is an intelligent argument.

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 19:14

Here is a video of an XL Pit attack on an innocent mailman.
Anti dog spray didn't work.

It's terrifying {Over 6 minutes to get the dog off}

LadyGrinningSoul8517 · 04/11/2024 19:14

Flowerydresses · 04/11/2024 18:58

I think in a way it’s quite a good statement . Anyone thinking their XLBully is sweet and loving and has a great relationship with their kids might think twice reading that ie even the ones that are ( supposedly) softies can turn. I wouldn’t want to walk past one on my own or with a child, god knows how people have them in their house!

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I refuse to walk past them with my kids.
I've offended a few dog owners by very obviously crossing the road to avoid walking past their dogs, but I couldn't care less about their hurty feelings when I'm considering the safety of my children.

thingymijigi · 04/11/2024 19:14

powotsits · 04/11/2024 15:52

There is an idiot near us who walks one off lead without a muzzle round the little residential streets near us – always full of children out playing

This is against the law. Please take photos and report them to the relevant people.

Firstimpressions · 04/11/2024 19:16

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 18:47

Have you ever seen a Pit or XL Bully attack?
If CS gas doesn’t work ( Dutch Police) I doubt pretty lemony scent will

My gentle Whippet isn’t remotely bothered by pure Citronella ( local pharmacist sells it )

It's so unfair people aren't allowed to protect themselves & their children in the face if an xl bully attack. I've found out carrying pepper spray is illegal. Carrying actual cayenne pepper is not illegal. How about throwing cayenne pepper in its face if it attacks, would that work? Anything that would prevent the attacks & deaths of adults,children & other dogs.

EasternStandard · 04/11/2024 19:17

oakleaffy · 04/11/2024 19:14

Here is a video of an XL Pit attack on an innocent mailman.
Anti dog spray didn't work.

It's terrifying {Over 6 minutes to get the dog off}

This is terrifying. I have no idea why we think this should be normal

I mean any child or person could suffer

I have no idea why we keep having these threads and we don't just get do something drastic

bigkahunaburger · 04/11/2024 19:18

Well over ten years ago I bred Saint Bernards. Beautiful dogs, I took it very very seriously, trying to 'improve the breed', much research putting certain bitches with studs etc etc. It was my 'job' for a while. There is a lot of science in it and care (and money). It went really well for years, it was a joy to see how happy people were with their puppies, and as a family it was lovely. And then it wasn't. Nelson came along from another breeder as a stud and he was the sweetest, most gentle, docile, timid puppy we had ever had. He was utterly adorable. Blood lines were absolutely excellent - on paper was top notch and we paid an absolute fortune for him. He was extremely needy and sweet right from the get-go. Cut to him as an adult at 2, and he was 100kg, completely docile (too much really), and absolutely adored us - a family with 4 young kids. HOWEVER, once he hit 2, to him the world was a scary place and people were out to hurt his family. He started to snarl, and would lunge and try to attack anyone that came near during walks (EVERYONE wanted to pat the huge st bernard but they just couldn't). Then I couldnt walk him cos he weighed more than me...and that made things worse. Then my kids couldnt have playdates because even though id lock him in the garage Id be terrified of a mistake. We paid thousands on a behaviouralist, but nothing worked. We had to accept we had a lion in the house who was obsessed with us and wouldnt hurt us but would literally rip apart anyone he viewed as a threat to us. It was terrifying. For that period of a year it ruined our social life as I wouldnt have anyone to visit due to sheer worry about what would happen. He never actually hurt anyone, but on walks he sure looked like he would...

The turning point was my sons friend knocked on the door unannounced and Nelson went beserk - up on his hind legs going mental at the door - to a 9 year old!!! If that door had been open I absolutely dread to think what could have happened. That was the end for us. We did surrender him to the behaviouralist in the end who felt we needed to give up (after paying thousands) and he took him on as a project. This is so many years ago now, but that was the catalyst for us that we ended breeding. My view before that and after are very very different. I believed in its not the dog its the owner and breeding. I now think its completely and utterly random. No dogs should exist that can overpower a child (not an adult - a child - cos you never ever know). Its like having a lion in your home and you would never do that, and then blame the owner/child when they do what comes natural. I see these idiots who have actual lions as 'pets' on the internet, and yes they can connect and be lovely and gentle - but they can snap at any time. Same with bullies and any large dogs. Literally any time they can snap and there is bugger all we can do about it.

Its hard because I know the joy dogs bring, but from the other side as what many would consider a responsible reputable breeder, I call BS on a lot of that. A puppy can have the best bloodlines in the world, and the most dedicated owners, and training and environment - AND a breed that is renowned for being 'gentle' - and still it goes balls up.

IMHO bullies should without doubt be culled and banned and it should have been done ages ago. BUT I think we need to go further. There are many dangerous dogs living with and being around children that simply shouldnt be. Families think 'my dog is so gentle' but he may be with you guys cos you are his/her pack but he may be the opposite with others. He may some day even turn on you. Im a social worker and I wont go to homes with large dogs for this very reason. I dont care what they say about them being lovely - any dog that can overpower me is unsafe, end of. They originate from wolves and unless they are small and manageable they shouldnt be pets. Controversial I know...but I dont think Im wrong. I may be accused of being a hypocrite because I am - at one point I had 4 adult St Bernards living with me with 4 kids - but now I know better. I cringe that I did that tbh. No child or adult should ever die or be harmed by a pet. Its just wrong full stop.

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