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"Loving" XL Bully mauls 10yo to death

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HeadacheEarthquake · 04/11/2024 15:40

www.lbc.co.uk/news/schoolgirl-malton-xl-bully-attack/

When will people wake the fuck up

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Gingerbee · 12/12/2024 14:47

DH and DS are vets and don't agree with the BVA and animal charities.
We were at a Vet Reunion recently and everyone agreed with the ban.

Babycatsarenice · 12/12/2024 15:24

Just read about that poor baby. The usual idiotic quotes that this behaviour out of character for the dog. It should be illegal for people to be this stupid. If it keeps happening with this breed, which it does, it is not out of character!!!!

Thevelvelletes · 12/12/2024 16:08

Aberdeen at the weekend an owner was killed by her own dog and was charged with said dog being out of control and attacking another dog just 6months previous.🙄

OonaStubbs · 12/12/2024 16:56

When are the government going to get their act together and do something about these dogs?

Viviennemary · 12/12/2024 17:05

It's a complete waste of time saying the dogs have to be registered and muzzled in public, That did not prevent the attack on this baby.

fashionqueen0123 · 12/12/2024 17:08

‘Hunter, the dog, and the baby got on so well. It’s so out of character for the dog. It was so soppy. We used to think he was like Scooby Do! They used to get in the travel cot together. He would sniff the baby and wander off."

www.lbc.co.uk/news/pictured-baby-girl-attacked-by-xl-bully-type-dog-folkestone/

sanityisamyth · 12/12/2024 17:42

They let it in the travel cot with the baby? Granted the travel cot wouldn't stand up to the dog trying to jump or barge its way in, but I think the parents need to be shot, as well as the dog.

MotherofPearl · 12/12/2024 17:55

Viviennemary · 12/12/2024 17:05

It's a complete waste of time saying the dogs have to be registered and muzzled in public, That did not prevent the attack on this baby.

Yes indeed. Allowing a child to play with a dog like this is the equivalent of letting a child play with a loaded gun.

bombastix · 12/12/2024 19:10

Well they aren’t fit parents are they? Anyone keeping one of these dogs with kids wants checking out imo

winewine · 12/12/2024 19:30

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14186403/Police-wanted-destroy-XL-Bully-savaged-baby-attack.html

I wonder if it was the same owner.

Belle82 · 12/12/2024 21:16

Thevelvelletes · 12/12/2024 13:39

I was called an arsehole today because I moved seats on a bus today when one of these was put on the seat Infront of me and it was unmuzzled and level with my face.

Shows the kinds of people who own this breed.

Belle82 · 12/12/2024 21:18

fashionqueen0123 · 12/12/2024 17:08

‘Hunter, the dog, and the baby got on so well. It’s so out of character for the dog. It was so soppy. We used to think he was like Scooby Do! They used to get in the travel cot together. He would sniff the baby and wander off."

www.lbc.co.uk/news/pictured-baby-girl-attacked-by-xl-bully-type-dog-folkestone/

I can’t believe anyone could be this stupid

Takeoutyourhen · 12/12/2024 21:31

“They were like two peas in a pod”
Stunned.
The bite force of a dog can cause life-altering injuries but not for these dogs of course, their owners defend them like the Kray’s mum did. “They wouldn’t hurt a fly!”

bombastix · 12/12/2024 22:02

Two peas in a pod.

No. Big dangerous dog and a baby in a fucking pod

The owners want neutering and muzzling, never mind the dog. They are dangerous to their own kids

EasternStandard · 12/12/2024 22:06

My god that poor baby.

I don't get why we keep having these threads and nothing changes. We could have better legislation

Do MPs get any pressure on this?

So frustrating to keep reading these articles

RichTea90 · 12/12/2024 22:45

MotherofPearl · 12/12/2024 14:40

Terrifying. The owners really don't seem to care.

That’s the real issue.

SidhuVicious · 12/12/2024 22:54

We all know that dogs can be bred for different characteristics. Pointers point. Shepherds herd. XL bullies are bred for aggression.

This isn't actually true at all. The issue is partly the inbreeding (Google 'Killer Kimbo' - a massively inbred and unstable individual from the US that over 50% of UK bullies tested can be linked to) and the fact that their descendents are reactive bull breeds.

Also, have you ever seen a bully owned by a middle class professional family? The type who would usually have something like a labrador or retriever. It's always chavs that own them.

Pussycat22 · 12/12/2024 22:56

powotsits · 04/11/2024 15:52

There is an idiot near us who walks one off lead without a muzzle round the little residential streets near us – always full of children out playing

Report it.

Pussycat22 · 12/12/2024 23:00

T4phage · 19/11/2024 18:11

I think it would probably incite more riots to be honest. I do agree with a cull though.

and the owners !!!

OonaStubbs · 12/12/2024 23:43

How many more people are going to be killed by these dogs before the government takes action?

flashspeed · 13/12/2024 00:38

SidhuVicious · 12/12/2024 22:54

We all know that dogs can be bred for different characteristics. Pointers point. Shepherds herd. XL bullies are bred for aggression.

This isn't actually true at all. The issue is partly the inbreeding (Google 'Killer Kimbo' - a massively inbred and unstable individual from the US that over 50% of UK bullies tested can be linked to) and the fact that their descendents are reactive bull breeds.

Also, have you ever seen a bully owned by a middle class professional family? The type who would usually have something like a labrador or retriever. It's always chavs that own them.

They're pits crossed with molossers - both aggressive types of dogs the mastiff side included. Mastiffs are usually placid until they're not. There are some with screws loose especially now everyone and their brother wants to do bite work with big scary looking breeds and they breed their own "working lines" of big mastiffs which are more likely to go into an xl than a dopey english mastiff that trips over its own skin. Then those lines end up in the general mastiff population and who knows when it will rear its head further down the genetic line.

Pits are self explanatory aggressive, there's a common misconception that the human aggressive dogs were culled - there are several famous dog fighters who kept on human aggressive dogs because of their performance and bred from them, and then less scrupulous (ha) dog fighters who wouldn't cull for human aggression at all.

Plenty of dogs have a higher inbreeding rate and they aren't going around killing people, Kimbo's COI was 31% which isn't staggeringly high compared to breeds who are perfectly affable - https://www.instituteofcaninebiology.org/blog/inbreeding-of-purebred-dogs-determined-from-dna

As to your last point, chavs owning them doesn't mean they'd behave for a naice middle class family. In the US where the pitbull problem is out of control there are plenty of nice normal families pulling their hair out over a pit (which is what an XL is) they got from a rescue wanting to eat their grandkids or the neighbour on a bike or scaling 8ft walls to kill neighbourhood dogs even when they've exhausted professional trainers etc.

RichTea90 · 13/12/2024 06:31

flashspeed · 13/12/2024 00:38

They're pits crossed with molossers - both aggressive types of dogs the mastiff side included. Mastiffs are usually placid until they're not. There are some with screws loose especially now everyone and their brother wants to do bite work with big scary looking breeds and they breed their own "working lines" of big mastiffs which are more likely to go into an xl than a dopey english mastiff that trips over its own skin. Then those lines end up in the general mastiff population and who knows when it will rear its head further down the genetic line.

Pits are self explanatory aggressive, there's a common misconception that the human aggressive dogs were culled - there are several famous dog fighters who kept on human aggressive dogs because of their performance and bred from them, and then less scrupulous (ha) dog fighters who wouldn't cull for human aggression at all.

Plenty of dogs have a higher inbreeding rate and they aren't going around killing people, Kimbo's COI was 31% which isn't staggeringly high compared to breeds who are perfectly affable - https://www.instituteofcaninebiology.org/blog/inbreeding-of-purebred-dogs-determined-from-dna

As to your last point, chavs owning them doesn't mean they'd behave for a naice middle class family. In the US where the pitbull problem is out of control there are plenty of nice normal families pulling their hair out over a pit (which is what an XL is) they got from a rescue wanting to eat their grandkids or the neighbour on a bike or scaling 8ft walls to kill neighbourhood dogs even when they've exhausted professional trainers etc.

RE last point - we aren’t in the US though. I think PP’s point was more about the type of people that are drawn to having these dogs rather than whether they’d behave for a middle class family. That kind of demographic would be important to consider when thinking about intervention.

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